Its totally bog standard, the only real issue is that its from Hong Kong, if its dead on arrival your going to have a big headache. Plus customs can sometimes bite you.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Its totally bog standard, the only real issue is that its from Hong Kong, if its dead on arrival your going to have a big headache. Plus customs can sometimes bite you.
User 73706
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What's the difference between the AMD R9 280X 3GB (+$150) and the GTX 770 4GB (+$150)?
Quite alot , the 280x is just a rebranded 7970 , you're better off with the 770 .
EmptySpace
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when is the maxwell card coming?
Just installed my EVGA GTX 780 Ti classified! Man, this card is massive. It runs silent and cool (72c max temp). Can't wait until my replacement from Qnix gets here so I can game at 1440P!
On a side note, I had to return a 290x I bought to Tigerdirect. That store is awful. What a dirty, scummy, blast from the 1990s. I don't know how they maintain a business.
On a side note, I had to return a 290x I bought to Tigerdirect. That store is awful. What a dirty, scummy, blast from the 1990s. I don't know how they maintain a business.
This has been a common sentiment for quite a while now.
I've been living in South Carolina where we didn't have any pc stores. Now I have Frys, micro center, and tigerdirect to pick from. Loving how nice and clean Frys is.
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User 73706
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This is a dumb question, but do graphics cards only affect graphics? I didn't know if it was some kind of media catch-all. Like, as long as I have decent specs everywhere else the bare minimum graphics card in the Excellent - Best Overall template will be fine for music production, right?
Yes
Most people here build for gaming so the OP builds are designed to meet those requirements. If you want something specific post the form from the OP and people are more than willing to help. For music production the Excellent build (with a great DAC of course) will be... excellent
User 73706
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New build!
Build Excellent - Best Overall
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230V3
Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-H87M
RAM 2x8GB (16GB)
Graphics GTX 760 2GB
SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
Storage 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX (Already have a 1TB external harddrive)
Power Supply CORSAIR RM Series RM650
Case Define R4
Heatsink CM Hyper T4
Sound Card Xonar DGX
Total: $1270
Keyboard Logitech K750
Monitor ASUS VS247H-P
Grand Total: $1495
Build Excellent - Best Overall
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230V3
Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-H87M
RAM 2x8GB (16GB)
Graphics GTX 760 2GB
SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
Storage 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX (Already have a 1TB external harddrive)
Power Supply CORSAIR RM Series RM650
Case Define R4
Heatsink CM Hyper T4
Sound Card Xonar DGX
Total: $1270
Keyboard Logitech K750
Monitor ASUS VS247H-P
Grand Total: $1495
Lucky. I'm buying a component a month while saving for a car currently (just bought the 270 as well).
Next month will be either a z87 mobo or a 4670K if I can find a better deal than Micro Center (with tax it is around $200, looking to buy one a little less with deals online).
In regards to the PSU, I got this PSU if you are looking for a relatively good quality 500w PSU.
chickdigger802
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man is this 780 classy kick ass. Well worth the $400 lol.
Also way less hassle getting 3 monitors setup vs amd. I just installed the drivers and shit just worked
physx is as dumb as i remember... but am sad that it runs like ass still (in batman origins).
I assume it works better sli.
Oddly enough AC4 still kinda runs like ass. hard to tell which settings are causing this. It shouldn't be so hard to get this 1440p 60fps.
Also way less hassle getting 3 monitors setup vs amd. I just installed the drivers and shit just worked
physx is as dumb as i remember... but am sad that it runs like ass still (in batman origins).
I assume it works better sli.
Oddly enough AC4 still kinda runs like ass. hard to tell which settings are causing this
. It shouldn't be so hard to get this 1440p 60fps.Yes, a 4770k.
CPU?man is this 780 classy kick ass. Well worth the $400 lol.
Also way less hassle getting 3 monitors setup vs amd. I just installed the drivers and shit just worked
physx is as dumb as i remember... but am sad that it runs like ass still (in batman origins).
I assume it works better sli.
Oddly enough AC4 still kinda runs like ass. hard to tell which settings are causing this
Both of you should consider the Xeon E3-1230V3. Its an i7 for the price of an i5. You get to save further by going with a B85 or H87 motherboard. The only downside is that you can't overclock it.
Shame on you. SHAME.
But really, the difference between a 2500K and 4770K is marginal. Just over clock the shit out of it. 4.5-4.8 should be reasonable.
chickdigger802
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3570k at 4.2ghz
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man is this 780 classy kick ass. Well worth the $400 lol.
Also way less hassle getting 3 monitors setup vs amd. I just installed the drivers and shit just worked
Really? I find Eyefinity to be a bit easier to set up than Surround. Neither presented any sort of challenge though.
Have you tried Borderlands 2? I thought it was pretty good there. Should run pretty well on a 780 too.
Oddly enough AC4 still kinda runs like ass. hard to tell which settings are causing this
CPU bottleneck in places is my experience with that game. Remove vsync and log your GPU usage to a file and take a look. If it's not 90-100% then it's a CPU bottleneck. EDIT: Yeah a 4.2Ghz 3570K will bottleneck in towns.
This is a common internet fallacy. You can't determine bottlenecks like that. A game with 2-3 threads can't tax your CPU to 100%.
jfoul
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These are also a decent price. A step up to the 270X, and running at 1080.
NCIX - CLUB3D Radeon R9 270X 14SERIES 1080MHZ 2GB - (Single Fan) $179.99
NCIX - Club 3D Radeon R9 270X Royal Queen 1080MHZ 2GB - (Dual Fan) $189.99
Review of the Royal Queen.
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GPU usage. I consider a GPU that is more than 10% idle in a game to be bottlenecked. With an unlocked framerate, it should be giving you as many frames as it possibly can.
Could be drivers, could be poor code, could be all sorts of things.
But really, you are almost always GPU bottlenecked, so it seems to be a weird thing to point out as an exception or issue.
I'd say get an i5 rather than an i7, take that $100 and buy a 770 instead.
These days, a large part of a "graphics card" is computation power that can be used for tasks other than graphics. They are only good for a limited subset of computation, but within that subset, a fast GPU can be e.g. 20 times more powerful than the fastest CPU you can buy. Most media processing is a good fit for GPUs. The catch is that GPU acceleration has to be specifically coded into applications, and separately to every task within the app where the acceleration is desired.
So to know whether GPUs have any relevance to you, you should google a bit to check if the specific software you use for music production has GPU acceleration. If so, you should then check what functionality within the app is accelerated, and how much speedup is expected. No point in buying a good GPU if it makes some effects/filters/whatever lightning fast if you aren't using those particular things in the first place.
Is it worth it to spend about 60 more, for a 770 4gb, instead of a 770 2gb?
I'd be gaming on either a single 1920x1200p monitor or a 1080p plasma tv (depending on the circumstances).
I get that usually single monitor configurations don't need the 4gb, but does Anti-Aliasing affect that decision? Like if i want to push some MSAA or TXAA or whatever, am i better off with 4gb anyway? Also consider that i'd be keeping this GPU 2 years at the least (changing with Pascal, most likely).
I'd be gaming on either a single 1920x1200p monitor or a 1080p plasma tv (depending on the circumstances).
I get that usually single monitor configurations don't need the 4gb, but does Anti-Aliasing affect that decision? Like if i want to push some MSAA or TXAA or whatever, am i better off with 4gb anyway? Also consider that i'd be keeping this GPU 2 years at the least (changing with Pascal, most likely).
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no, that is too steep
It's hard to say what developers will be doing one year from now. So I usually err on the side of caution, since I don't own a crystal ball.
But 60 euros is highway robbery
christ. One thing's for sure: you don't need it now, nor will you need it in the immediate future.
My guess is that the worst that can happen with the 2GB in the next two years is that you have to go with "high" instead of "ultra" textures. If you want to spend more, spend it on all around performance and go right to the 780 (which also ups the VRAM to 3GB). A 770 2GB will be good until Pascal, a 780 will be fantastic until Pascal (and run any new game well beyond that point). The 780's performance is not a waste at 1200p, even with current games.
Rawket Lawnchair
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This may have been answered before in the thread, but is there a good guide online on how to connect and install everything, when building your PC? I am a complete amateur.
There used to be one in the OP (saying how you should apply thermal paste for example), but it's not there anymore.
There used to be one in the OP (saying how you should apply thermal paste for example), but it's not there anymore.
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Goddamn, I am completely blind. That's what you get for only checking the OP and the last few pages of a thread.
Got it.
It worked when I shifted the card into another PCI-e slot.
It meant that I had to shift all the hard drives around a little bit but I don't care.
It works now, my system snapshot.
CPU: i7-2600k with coolermaster 212x cooler.
Mobo: P8Z68-v Pro
Ram: 8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz
Video Card: Sapphire R9 290x Tri-X.
Boot drive: 256gb Intel SSD.
teacupcopter
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So I have an i5 2500K, can OC it, but i've got a 2GB Radeon 6950 and only 4GB of RAM. Is 'upgrading' my system literally as simple as buying a better graphics card, buying 8GB of DDR3, and swapping them in/downloading the graphics card drivers?
jfoul
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New Egg Open Box:
ASUS Geforce GTX780 DC2OC $415.99 + $6.31 Shipping
ASUS Geforce GTX780 DC2OC $415.99 + $6.31 Shipping
It's a media production computer, not a gaming one. The i7 is a better choice. Read the stream.
Yep. And don't forget to sell your 6950.
Even though your board is PCI 2.0, an 8x slot might not limit that GPU to a significant degree. You might lose a few frames, but it seems to depend on the game. Take a look at this article on Anandtech that tests this with a 7970 (280x).
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5458/the-radeon-hd-7970-reprise-pcie-bandwidth-overclocking-and-msaa
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/graphics-...hics-card-vx7870-2gbd5-2dhv5x/21898526-a.html
Is this worth getting over a 750 Ti or gtx 660
Is this worth getting over a 750 Ti or gtx 660
It's about on par with the 660. I'd steer clear of Pixmania though.
Why?
Seconding the steer clear from pixmania.
You are fussing over £20, and to take the following risks:
VTX - Crap RMA policy
Pixmania - Dodgy site, they will also have no tech knowledge for any queries support, returns.
Crap cooler
Get the Asus GTX 660 ive linked you twice already for a solid product. Though Gigabyte is preferred, atleast you can count on Asus quality to a greater extent than VTX.
User 73706
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I found the Xeon just fine, but are these the motherboards you're referring to?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131996
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130697
But yeah, I definitely think it'd be worth it to save money getting those two and then be able to invest in a 750w power supply. I'm taking it the H87 is more powerful? Might as well go with that if I can't overclock it.
Can anyone vouch for a cheap, good-quality bluetooth mouse? When I say "cheap," I mean $50 or less. I don't need it for aiming or to have zero input latency or anything ridiculous.
Crimsonsky
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Yea i live in Charleston, no idea where the nearest Fry's is. Probably Charlotte, it hurts since i used to live close to Denver and it was heaven.
Just moved from Summerville to Chicagoland and it's night and day. Sherman should have burned the south down when he had the chance.
You won't need a PSU of that power unless you're going SLI/CF.
I don't know what Rma policy means. Also the odd £20 adds up!
User 73706
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Isn't it going to be a better deal compared to the vanilla Excellent - Best Overall options either way, though?
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