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Trigg

Banned
Cant compare, his CPU uses thermal paste between the die and IHS, yours is soldered.
Yours also doesnt boost Vcore with AVX workloads.

I'm also pushing 1.509v to the cpu with a level 2 LLC, he clearly doesn't have something setup properly.
 

Vitor711

Member
Any recommendations for a motherboard? I think I scratched the pins for the CPU socket and want to play it safe and replace it.

I have a 980 and i5-4690k. As long as it works with that, I'm happy. Was thinking of upgrading to a 1080/faster CPU further down the line but never SLI in case that affects anything. Want to find something cheap ideally since I wasn't planning on spending cash on a new MoBo but idiocy whilst dismantling my PC for a cross-Atlantic trip made that a necessity....
 

Bloodember

Member
When installing a new GPU, I just pop out the old one, uninstall Nvidia drivers then drop in the new one right?
Yes.
Hmm, the parts for my new build come in tomorrow but now im worried that my
ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231801
will have issues with my mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130902


is there some sort of incompatibility or is Ripjaw 4 just not optimal in this case?

Why would you have issues? they should work just fine.
 
As someone who has never been a PC gamer but is looking to get in, is there any reason not to build a PC right now? Anything new coming by the end of the year worth waiting for?
 

Vitor711

Member
As someone who has never been a PC gamer but is looking to get in, is there any reason not to build a PC right now? Anything new coming by the end of the year worth waiting for?

No - rumours of the new Titan and MAYBE the 1080ti but it's unlikely. If you're not buying the absolute best GPU available, there's no reason not to get the 1070 right now.
 

LilJoka

Member
I'm also pushing 1.509v to the cpu with a level 2 LLC, he clearly doesn't have something setup properly.

Haswell can easily hit 100c with Intel burn test at stock with a hyper 212, nothing new. Need the gaming temps before jumping to this being an issue. What are your ambient temps?

I'm sure your CPU fans also were at 100% in your pic and your ambients werent stated . HT can add 10-15c too.
 

Pacotez

Member
I need some help. I just put together my PC and it won't work properly. It'll just cycle on and off for a few seconds at a time. For the amount of time that it is on for the connected monitor does not receive a signal from the computer. I've tried both a VGA port and an HDMI port and neither receives a signal. What could be the problem?

Check out your PSU, it might be damaged. Try using another one with enough supply for your system.
 

LilJoka

Member
I need some help. I just put together my PC and it won't work properly. It'll just cycle on and off for a few seconds at a time. For the amount of time that it is on for the connected monitor does not receive a signal from the computer. I've tried both a VGA port and an HDMI port and neither receives a signal. What could be the problem?

Also make sure the CPU power 4 or 8 pin cable is plugged in.
 

IC5

Member
When installing a new GPU, I just pop out the old one, uninstall Nvidia drivers then drop in the new one right?

If its another Nvidia card, that could be fine. I would recommend at least running driver sweeper or display driver uninstaller. and then finishing that off with CCleaner's registry cleaner.

If you are switching from Nvidia ot AMD, I would backup your stuff and reinstall windows. You are asking for pain, if you try to switch companies, without a fresh install.
 

Bloodember

Member
If its another Nvidia card, that could be fine. I would recommend at least running driver sweeper or display driver uninstaller. and then finishing that off with CCleaner's registry cleaner.

If you are switching from Nvidia ot AMD, I would backup your stuff and reinstall windows. You are asking for pain, if you try to switch companies, without a fresh install.
What? Just Uninstall the drivers and software and you will be fine.
 
I reinserted the CPU, tried booting with 1 stick of RAM in different slots, tried booting with the graphics card taken out and the PC is still cycling on and off. I'm pretty confident everything is wired securely and in the right spot. I can't test if the PSU is the problem because it's the only one I have. Any other suggestions? I really appreciate the help given so far.
 
My PC build is done and probably the highest end PC I have ever built. 2nd closest is probably my old 700MHz AMD Thunderbird/Voodoo3000 APG. Anyways I have an...

i5 6600K@4.4GHz
16GBs of DDR4@3000MHz
ASRock Z170 Pro4
Gigabyte 1070 G1@1900+MHz

S3OWpjT.jpg

It's an amazing build for me. So far I have been just playing around with demos and Overwatch. I finally decided to try some overclocking and run Firestrike.


So fun.

Should I move my 1070 down to the other slot?
 

Iced

Member
6900k arrived the other day. $550 after taxes with my privileges. Now I need a board and memory.

Do I need DDR4 3000Mhz? Or is 2666 good?

I keep reading 2666 is the "sweet spot" for frequency and timings, although the G Skill 3000 memory I just bought appears to have excellent timings. You probably can't go wrong with either.
 

vector824

Member
As someone who has never been a PC gamer but is looking to get in, is there any reason not to build a PC right now? Anything new coming by the end of the year worth waiting for?

Kabylake processors are coming out January most likely, but CPUs are definitely not the bottleneck right now, so you'd be totally fine with a Skylake. However Optane SSDs are also on the horizon, and they promise to bring RAM speeds to SSDs. We just don't know the price so take it with salt, but only Kabylake will support it.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/non-volatile-memory.html


6900k arrived the other day. $550 after taxes with my privileges. Now I need a board and memory.

Do I need DDR4 3000Mhz? Or is 2666 good?

You don't need 3000MHz, but when I bought it at least it wasn't much more so why not.

2666 is fine, even 2400. 3000 is the cap in memory performance when it comes to gaming. The difference between 2400 and 3000 is 0-4fps. (I have 3000)
 

Bloodember

Member
My PC build is done and probably the highest end PC I have ever built. 2nd closest is probably my old 700MHz AMD Thunderbird/Voodoo3000 APG. Anyways I have an...

i5 6600K@4.4GHz
16GBs of DDR4@3000MHz
ASRock Z170 Pro4
Gigabyte 1070 G1@1900+MHz



It's an amazing build for me. So far I have been just playing around with demos and Overwatch. I finally decided to try some overclocking and run Firestrike.



So fun.

Should I move my 1070 down to the other slot?

No leave it in the top slot.
 

karnage10

Banned
Your Current Specs: CPU I7 860@2.8GHz / RAM 8GB DDR3 1333MHz (4x2) / Motherboard asus maximus III formula/ GPU 5850/ PSU 700w (don't know the brand) / Case nox nx-1 / HDD 2TB samsung;
Budget: around 1000 - 1300 euro + Portugal;
Main Use: Gaming.
Monitor Resolution: I'll be playing games at 1080p. If everything goes well i'm hopping to buy a vive next year or at the start of 2017.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:I'd enjoy playing at a stable 60 FPS. I'm hoping to play total war games, witcher and Deus Ex MD. I have always bought team red because i normally bought "low" tier GPUs so i have never used PhysX.
Looking to reuse any parts?: I'm hoping to re-use the PSU, the case and the HDD.
When will you build?: I don't have a deadline but as a med school student the coming year is a very hard one, as such i'd enjoy building the PC this month so i can enjoy it in my "holidays".
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe, i like a few CPU dependent games like FM and total war attila so i'm kinda interested in learning how to overclock the CPU (if it doesn't take too long to learn/do)

I was leaning towards this build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pzk6RG
On the internet (Portugal stores) it would cost around 1400 euro which is *just* slightly outside of my budget but from what little i know it seems an excellent build.
I ask GAF for help, what do you think of the build? and what parts would you pick if you were in my shoes?
 

DSix

Banned
Alright guy, I see the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro for 339€.

Do I go for it or should I rather get a 1060 at ~280€?


VR is my main focus, and I gather that the Fury is real good at it. Tho, if the difference isn't that big with the 1060, I'd rather get a card that doesn't need its own powerplant to function.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Your Current Spec: Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40 GHz, 8Gig DDR3(IIRC) RAM, EVGA GTX760. Forget the Motherboard but it's I think ASUS "Military" brand or whatever. I could check if need be.
Budget: I'd like to stay within $500 USD but I can pay more if I need a rework.
Main Use: I'd say 3? Gaming (PC/Emulation DON'T CARE ABOUT VR) + Web Browsing/Writing/iTunes
Monitor Resolution: 1080p. I don't think I'll be getting another monitor unless Gsync or AMD's version (though I'd prefer to stick with Nvidia) of Gsync gets to a reasonable ($200-300) price.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I'm asking/making this template mostly for Battlefield 1's launch. I'd like to at least be high-medium 60FPS for it at 1080p. If I need to do a complete overhaul at least I know I can save up cash, but if I can upgrade my parts, great.
Looking to reuse any parts?: See above: If I can just slot out my RAM and GPU, that'd be great. But I'm not sure what the current state of "PS4 generation level power" is for upgrades especially since DX12 still isn't out (AFAIK?) and Vulkan is out but not mass adopted yet.
When will you build?: I'd like to do it next month, but shortly before October works.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!) Probably not (but maybe?) I haven't had a need to Overclock this i5 despite saying "maybe" three years ago. So, if I could stick with my i5 that'd put it in the "maybe catagory" and at least paying slightly more for the peace of mind in the future would be alright with me. *shrug* But it's no big deal.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Your Current Spec: Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40 GHz, 8Gig DDR3(IIRC) RAM, EVGA GTX760. Forget the Motherboard but it's I think ASUS "Military" brand or whatever. I could check if need be.
Budget: I'd like to stay within $500 USD but I can pay more if I need a rework.
Main Use: I'd say 3? Gaming + Web Browsing/Writing/iTunes
Monitor Resolution: 1080p. I don't think I'll be getting another monitor unless Gsync or AMD's version (though I'd prefer to stick with Nvidia) of Gsync gets to a reasonable ($200-300) price.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I'm asking/making this template mostly for Battlefield 1's launch. I'd like to at least be high-medium 60FPS for it at 1080p. If I need to do a complete overhaul at least I know I can save up cash, but if I can upgrade my parts, great.
Looking to reuse any parts?: See above: If I can just slot out my RAM and GPU, that'd be great. But I'm not sure what the current state of "PS4 generation level power" is for upgrades especially since DX12 still isn't out (AFAIK?) and Vulkan is out but not mass adopted yet.
When will you build?: I'd like to do it next month, but shortly before October works.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!) Probably not (but maybe?) I haven't had a need to Overclock this i5 despite saying "maybe" three years ago. So, if I could stick with my i5 that'd put it in the "maybe catagory" and at least paying slightly more for the peace of mind in the future would be alright with me. *shrug* But it's no big deal.
Off the top of my head, I'd add an identical stick of ram to total at 16gb, overclock your CPU (get an aftermarket cooler like the hyper 212 evo) and get a 1070. That'll come out to around $500, closer to $400 depending on what price you can find a 1070 at. Your processor should be totally fine with an OC.

That'll run BF1 on high at least, more than likely ultra since you're at 1080p. It'll absolutely destroy what a PS4 can do.
 

Trigg

Banned
Your Current Spec: Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40 GHz, 8Gig DDR3(IIRC) RAM, EVGA GTX760. Forget the Motherboard but it's I think ASUS "Military" brand or whatever. I could check if need be.
Budget: I'd like to stay within $500 USD but I can pay more if I need a rework.
Main Use: I'd say 3? Gaming (PC/Emulation DON'T CARE ABOUT VR) + Web Browsing/Writing/iTunes
Monitor Resolution: 1080p. I don't think I'll be getting another monitor unless Gsync or AMD's version (though I'd prefer to stick with Nvidia) of Gsync gets to a reasonable ($200-300) price.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I'm asking/making this template mostly for Battlefield 1's launch. I'd like to at least be high-medium 60FPS for it at 1080p. If I need to do a complete overhaul at least I know I can save up cash, but if I can upgrade my parts, great.
Looking to reuse any parts?: See above: If I can just slot out my RAM and GPU, that'd be great. But I'm not sure what the current state of "PS4 generation level power" is for upgrades especially since DX12 still isn't out (AFAIK?) and Vulkan is out but not mass adopted yet.
When will you build?: I'd like to do it next month, but shortly before October works.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!) Probably not (but maybe?) I haven't had a need to Overclock this i5 despite saying "maybe" three years ago. So, if I could stick with my i5 that'd put it in the "maybe catagory" and at least paying slightly more for the peace of mind in the future would be alright with me. *shrug* But it's no big deal.

Personally i'd just buy faster ram and overclock the CPU. Majority of the money into a 480 or 1060.
 

Type2

Member
Yes.


Why would you have issues? they should work just fine.
I think I read something about gskills 4 series being optimized for x99 mobos and it made me paranoid.
I also saw the coy supported only two Dimm slots and that made me second guess a 4 stick config but it turns out that's not what it meant.

I put together my build very quickly after my old mobo broke thus making me paranoid that I did something wrong.

Thanks for the affirmation!
 

IC5

Member
6900k arrived the other day. $550 after taxes with my privileges. Now I need a board and memory.

Do I need DDR4 3000Mhz? Or is 2666 good?

Eurogamer has bunch of videos out, comparing various processors and various speeds of ram. i5 1500k Vs. 3770k. Skylake i3 6100 Vs. a bunch of stuff. etc.

Skylake's memory controller loves faster ram. When CPU limited, the faster ram will give you a boost. 8 cores, I'm assuming you are either going to run multiple GPUs or do some video word. Both Scenarios are CPU heavy and will benefit noticeably, from faster ram.

3000mhz ram no longer costs more, than slower DDR4. The extra cost is the fact that you usually have to have a z150 chipset motherboard, to utilize the extra speed, via XMP RAM profiles, in the bios. or straight up old fashioned overclocking. But I mean, you bought a 6900k. You probably aren't looking to pinch on the mobo.

for gaming, specifically: there are some CPU heavy games which are popular, right now. Those Eurogamer videos show them off.And the cool thing is, they track actual gameplay. Not benchmarks. So you also get to hear about real world minimum framerates. Which a lot of articles do not focus on. That's where single card configurations can benefit more so than top end framerate. The 2500k vs 3770k video does a good job of showing that. Even those older processors do benefit from faster ram.

Eurogamer also shows how the faster ram can help AMD cards, due to their less efficient DX11 drivers.

Otherwise, generally speaking, it looks like faster ram gives only minor top end gains, until you have GPU power which is better than a single 980ti. Whether that's 1 GPU or multiple. With multiple demanding more CPU power. Eurogamer uses a Titan X, to show the differences. But they toss in a 970 and a 290 in a couple of videos, and end up highlighting the minimum framerate benefits, too.

Here are some tests which show ram speed scaling, with dual 980ti
http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html

there are some other recent articles out there, which show how ram speed can effect things. [H]ardocp's 6700k review does everything at ultra low resolutions, to show off IPC improvements and they toss in faster RAM, as well.
 
Now you have me a little worried. I have the same case and CPU cooler as you on a 3570K, and my temps are the same or higher than yours. I didn't realize there was anything weird about this. However, it's worth noting than I'm in the southern US and it's hot as balls here, like 95F outside and the AC is struggling to keep the house cool.

On that note, I've been considering getting a Noctua NH-D15 to replace my Hyper 212 Evo, but Tom's Hardware mentioned the thing is really heavy and made a big deal about it possibly being dangerous to the motherboard, going so far as to say I should never move my PC after installing the thing. Is this really an issue that I should be worried about?

Quoting because I am also interested in the answer.

Something seems wrong, yeah. However, it is summer. A lot of people think something is wrong, when really, it just the natural consequence of this time of year.

When is the last time you re-applied your thermal paste? It could be dried out. Do you remember what kind you used?
Are you sure that your CPU fan is spinning properly?

Have you moved your PC, recently? Say, for a LAN party. Or maybe re-arranging the house?

I'm going to reseat the heatsink when I get the Noctua just because I'm out of TIM. Last time I did this was a few months ago to clean and tidy up my case. I used MX2 IIRC. I've recently moved the case in order to clean and install a new GPU. Normally I'd have reseated by now but I'm waiting on new TIM.

Mineshaft @ How hot is the temperature in your room? If you're in an area with heatwaves, could the warmer air just be attributing to higher temps?


This is gonna sound dumb; But are you absolutely sure that exhaust and intake are turned appropriately? There has been many builders who reverse the them so there is not proper air pressure!

I'm sure I've got then turned properly, but not sure I have the ideal setup. The 200R case is a bitch to cool. There is a fan in the back, mounts for two 120mm or 140mm fans on top, two fans in the front, one on the bottom, and two on the side panel. My motherboard had fuck all for fan outputs so I need to use splitters but that doesn't seem to affect rpm and the CPU fan is plugged directly into the main course fan header.

Something to note is that the front of the case doesn't have great ventilation thanks to the relatively unporus front panel and the drive cage obscuring directly in front of that second fan. Also, I have my cables stuffed under the HDDs in that same drive cage since my PSU is not modular. Ideally, I'd buy a new case and PSU but that is easily another $180 or so on top of the $150 I just spent on the Noctua and new case fans.
 
My gtx 1070 arrives tomorrow. It will be replacing my gtx 760. Do I simply swap out the cards? Or do I uninstall drivers, swap cards, then reinstall drivers?
 

Nerrel

Member
I'd like some advice on how to best sell my previous PC. I'm left with:

i5 2500k (at 4.7Ghz with CM 212 fan)
ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 board
8GB(2x4) DDR3 G.Skill ripjaws
NZXT M59 case

I estimate based on used prices that if I part it out, I may be able to get $200 at best. But if I just add a PSU and HDD, it would be a fully usable desktop again; all someone would need to do is add a GPU and it would be a great gaming system with the assembly and overclocking already done. I feel like I could sell it for more that way, but I'm not really sure what value to assign to this system or whether it would safely be worth the costs of replacing those two parts.

Any advice would be appreciated... it was my first PC build, so naturally it's my first PC selling experience. I feel like $450 would be a reasonable asking price for the system above with a 550w PSU and 500Gb HDD added in.

My gtx 1070 arrives tomorrow. It will be replacing my gtx 760. Do I simply swap out the cards? Or do I uninstall drivers, swap cards, then reinstall drivers?

Uninstall them first, then swap the cards, then reinstall.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Off the top of my head, I'd add an identical stick of ram to total at 16gb, overclock your CPU (get an aftermarket cooler like the hyper 212 evo) and get a 1070. That'll come out to around $500, closer to $400 depending on what price you can find a 1070 at. Your processor should be totally fine with an OC.

That'll run BF1 on high at least, more than likely ultra since you're at 1080p. It'll absolutely destroy what a PS4 can do.

Personally i'd just buy faster ram and overclock the CPU. Majority of the money into a 480 or 1060.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm not overly opposed with buying everything new again, but I spent like $1000 three years ago and if I could just use some of the stuff I already have, that'd be alright. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to getting an i7 but AFAIK CPU's have "slowed down" in regards to the pace of new ones coming out, so if I could just stick with my i5 that's great.

I'm not well versed in hardware so I'm not sure what to keep/what to upgrade, you know? Especially since Vulkan/DX12 still isn't fully out (last I saw?).
 

IC5

Member
Eurogamer has bunch of videos out, comparing various processors and various speeds of ram. i5 1500k Vs. 3770k. Skylake i3 6100 Vs. a bunch of stuff. etc.

Skylake's memory controller loves faster ram. When CPU limited, the faster ram will give you a boost. 8 cores, I'm assuming you are either going to run multiple GPUs or do some video word. Both Scenarios are CPU heavy and will benefit noticeably, from faster ram.

3000mhz ram no longer costs more, than slower DDR4. The extra cost is the fact that you usually have to have a z150 chipset motherboard, to utilize the extra speed, via XMP RAM profiles, in the bios. or straight up old fashioned overclocking. But I mean, you bought a 6900k. You probably aren't looking to pinch on the mobo.

for gaming, specifically: there are some CPU heavy games which are popular, right now. Those Eurogamer videos show them off.And the cool thing is, they track actual gameplay. Not benchmarks. So you also get to hear about real world minimum framerates. Which a lot of articles do not focus on. That's where single card configurations can benefit more so than top end framerate. The 2500k vs 3770k video does a good job of showing that. Even those older processors do benefit from faster ram.

Eurogamer also shows how the faster ram can help AMD cards, due to their less efficient DX11 drivers.

Otherwise, generally speaking, it looks like faster ram gives only minor top end gains, until you have GPU power which is better than a single 980ti. Whether that's 1 GPU or multiple. With multiple demanding more CPU power. Eurogamer uses a Titan X, to show the differences. But they toss in a 970 and a 290 in a couple of videos, and end up highlighting the minimum framerate benefits, too.

Here are some tests which show ram speed scaling, with dual 980ti
http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html

there are some other recent articles out there, which show how ram speed can effect things. [H]ardocp's 6700k review does everything at ultra low resolutions, to show off IPC improvements and they toss in faster RAM, as well.

Here's eurogamer's video where the show an i5 6500 with a bunch of different ram speeds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_Fuz54U0Y

most articles like this, show that DDR3000 is the sweet spot for current, single GPUs. Hoever, that dual 980ti article I linked before, shows that dual GPUs see non trivial benefits beyond DDR3000.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm not overly opposed with buying everything new again, but I spent like $1000 three years ago and if I could just use some of the stuff I already have, that'd be alright. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to getting an i7 but AFAIK CPU's have "slowed down" in regards to the pace of new ones coming out, so if I could just stick with my i5 that's great.

I'm not well versed in hardware so I'm not sure what to keep/what to upgrade, you know? Especially since Vulkan/DX12 still isn't fully out (last I saw?).

There are people in the thread that know more than I do, but I'd say those suggested upgrades would get you at least two, maybe three years of high-end gaming. The 1070 is a great card, and should be a powerhouse for some time especially at 1080p. The 1060 would serve you well, too. I don't see much of a reason to start fresh - there are still dudes around here rocking the i5-2500k with great results.
 
I'm using CPU-Z benchmark on my device:

i7 3770k stock.

My score is for single threaded: 1656, and multi threaded: 6945.

I'm checking around the net for other results to compare to, and I'm finding my score higher than users cpu that I'm thinking are more powerful than mine.

Such as from this website.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430106-post-your-cpu-z-bench-scores/

Eg: one score for an i7-4770K ­@4.2gh got, single threaded. 1611 and multi threaded : 5930.
Eg: i7 4790k @ 4.8ghz , single threaded: 1742 : Multi threaded : 6406
Could there be other factors involved?

Edit: apparently a CPU-Z update changed the scores for many. Could explain why.
 

Evo X

Member
Hey guys, my little cousin wants to build his first gaming PC. I'm giving him my Titan X and 27" ROG Swift monitor, but he needs everything else.

Has a budget of ~$800 for the remainder of the hardware. So MB, CPU, ram, PSU, SSD/HDD, Case, KB/Mouse. Is that enough to get a solid rig or should he save up some more?
 
Hey guys, my little cousin wants to build his first gaming PC. I'm giving him my Titan X and 27" ROG Swift monitor, but he needs everything else.

Has a budget of ~$800 for the remainder of the hardware. So MB, CPU, ram, PSU, SSD/HDD, Case, KB/Mouse. Is that enough to get a solid rig or should he save up some more?

Definitely enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $711.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 02:38 EDT-0400

I'll let you choose a case for him.

Use this to get OS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/
 

ReaperXL7

Member
Heya PC Gaf,

Due to a recent experience of getting a real in person taste of PC gaming I decided that I really want to invest in as good a PC as I can get.

Here is my information:

[Basic Desktop Questions]

•Your Current Specs: I don't currently own a PC at all

•Budget: 1,000-15,500 not including taxes and shipping, I'm in the U.S

•Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: The games that I spend the most time with in general are open world RPGs and I'm very interested in being able to heavily mod them. I've seen some really impressive visual upgrades for games like Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout, and even Minecraft. I'm also interested in emulation as one of my biggest issues with consoles is how spotty compatibility has been the past couple of generations. I might do or allow my daughter to do some streaming but it's not the biggest priority.

•Monitor Resolution: I'm going to be hooking up my PC to a large panel 4k TV but I'm not opposed to getting a good monitor down the line but my budget for now is going into the actual PC.

•List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 144? How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you?

Mentioned this above but Open world RPGs are my primary genre, but I'm really interested in getting into some 4x games like Stellaris, MMOs like FFXIV, and indie games

•Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model (e.g. Corsair 750TX, 640GB SATA HDD, Antec 900)I don't own a PC currently so no I won't be reusing any parts.

•When will you build?: Do you have a deadline? My goal is to have all of the party by Feb/March of 2017 but since the 1070/1080 just came out I'm going to get that out of the way first soon unless there is a significant reason to delay.

•Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!): I honestly don't know with this one, this will be my first real "Gaming" Pc so this isn't something I've ever done before. If it's a good idea i'll look into it though.

I'm currently looking into building a PC around a GTX1080 but I'm not sure that's fesable in my price range. I would also be curious to know which parts would be accepteable to purchase ahead of my projected date because that would probably allow me to squeeze alittle more into my budget.

This is my first real attempt at getting into PC gaming so i'll gladly take any good advice I can get and appreciate it.
 
In nvidia control panel power management , what should I chose, optimal performance or prefer maximum performance? Some games in 3D settings prefer one over the other.
 
So I have a question about the Asus CPU installation tool. Has anyone here used it? Do you need to use on boards that it ships with? Any downside? It seems weird to have an extra piece of plastic just laying around the CPU, does this not effect heat?
 

vector824

Member
Your Current Specs: CPU I7 860@2.8GHz / RAM 8GB DDR3 1333MHz (4x2) / Motherboard asus maximus III formula/ GPU 5850/ PSU 700w (don't know the brand) / Case nox nx-1 / HDD 2TB samsung;
Budget: around 1000 - 1300 euro + Portugal;
Main Use: Gaming.
Monitor Resolution: I'll be playing games at 1080p. If everything goes well i'm hopping to buy a vive next year or at the start of 2017.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:I'd enjoy playing at a stable 60 FPS. I'm hoping to play total war games, witcher and Deus Ex MD. I have always bought team red because i normally bought "low" tier GPUs so i have never used PhysX.
Looking to reuse any parts?: I'm hoping to re-use the PSU, the case and the HDD.
When will you build?: I don't have a deadline but as a med school student the coming year is a very hard one, as such i'd enjoy building the PC this month so i can enjoy it in my "holidays".
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe, i like a few CPU dependent games like FM and total war attila so i'm kinda interested in learning how to overclock the CPU (if it doesn't take too long to learn/do)

I was leaning towards this build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pzk6RG
On the internet (Portugal stores) it would cost around 1400 euro which is *just* slightly outside of my budget but from what little i know it seems an excellent build.
I ask GAF for help, what do you think of the build? and what parts would you pick if you were in my shoes?

Your build looks good. That should be more than enough to do whatever you want for the next 3-5 years or so.

Hey guys, my little cousin wants to build his first gaming PC. I'm giving him my Titan X and 27" ROG Swift monitor, but he needs everything else.

Has a budget of ~$800 for the remainder of the hardware. So MB, CPU, ram, PSU, SSD/HDD, Case, KB/Mouse. Is that enough to get a solid rig or should he save up some more?

i7's are overkill unless he's doing heavy video editing. I'd go i5 with 8gb 2400mhz RAM. He'll be more than pumped for this rig, plenty of room for expansion too. Just tack on $20-30 for a keyboard and mouse.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.00 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $716.06 ($764.05 before rebates)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 07:21 EDT-0400
 

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
Your build looks good. That should be more than enough to do whatever you want for the next 3-5 years or so.



i7's are overkill unless he's doing heavy video editing. I'd go i5 with 8gb 2400mhz RAM. He'll be more than pumped for this rig, plenty of room for expansion too. Just tack on $20-30 for a keyboard and mouse.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.00 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $716.06 ($764.05 before rebates)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 07:21 EDT-0400

why 1x 8gb stick shouldn't you be using 2? also you didn't include price of Windows.

here is an updated one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $776.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 07:36 EDT-0400

cheaper motherboard/psu and only 1 case fan which could be left out and move the top fan to the front and buy more fans later.
 

SCB3

Member
Having some trouble now deciding on a new GPU in September, so my choices are:

I'll keep it simple, I have a budget of about £400 ish

so do I get:

GTX 1070 (Not sure on brand, probably stick with EVGA) and save/wait to buy a G-Sync or ultra wide monitor next year

or

a Sapphire nitro OC RX 480 and a pair of 24" Freesync Monitors?

If it helps my specs are

AMD FX-6300 Black Edition @ 4.0 ghz (Stock Cooler for now)
750w PSU
ASUS M5A94 Evo 2.0 motherboard
12gb RAM (soon to be 20gb)
 

twdnewh_k

Member
Between a choice of TN Panel with Gsync or IPS without Gsync, what do you guys think? Paired with a Gtx 1080.

Edit: At 4k if that matters.
 
why 1x 8gb stick shouldn't you be using 2? also you didn't include price of Windows.

here is an updated one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $776.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 07:36 EDT-0400

The I7 is worth it over the SSD to start IMO. He can always get one down the line, a 120/256GB SSD for OS and some games shouldn't be too hard to get later as an add on for cheap during a deal. I even found a Deal for the 6700k for $309.99 and with my build they can use the same case you have and get a 120GB SSD near budget.

Many games now are in fact capable of utilizing 8 threads and taking advantage of hyperthreading. As of right now the 6600k and 6700k are very close performance wise, but it's as we continue down the road and the processor gets older that the I7's starts to be advantageous. Given the relatively small price increase I certainly think it's worth it.

https://youtu.be/EhaB1dqYv_I

Updated recommendation from me

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Other: I7 6700k ($309.99)
Total: $806.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 08:12 EDT-0400

Can easily drop the SSD which will cover the cost of the OS on Reddit and a mouse/keyboard.

Use this to get OS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/
 
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