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vector824

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Hey guys, my little cousin wants to build his first gaming PC. I'm giving him my Titan X and 27" ROG Swift monitor, but he needs everything else.

Has a budget of ~$800 for the remainder of the hardware. So MB, CPU, ram, PSU, SSD/HDD, Case, KB/Mouse. Is that enough to get a solid rig or should he save up some more?

The I7 is worth it over the SSD to start IMO. He can always get one down the line, a 120/256GB SSD for OS and some games shouldn't be too hard to get later as an add on for cheap during a deal. I even found a Deal for the 6700k for $309.99 and with my build they can use the same case you have and get a 120GB SSD near budget.

Many games now are in fact capable of utilizing 8 threads and taking advantage of hyperthreading. As of right now the 6600k and 6700k are very close performance wise, but it's as we continue down the road and the processor gets older that the I7's starts to be advantageous. Given the relatively small price increase I certainly think it's worth it.

https://youtu.be/EhaB1dqYv_I

Updated recommendation from me

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Other: I7 6700k ($309.99)
Total: $806.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 08:12 EDT-0400

Can easily drop the SSD which will cover the cost of the OS on Reddit and a mouse/keyboard.

Use this to get OS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/

At that price point it might be worth it. I combined the three builds more or less. Go liquid cooling for $25 more if you want, not necessary though. 1x 8gb stick is fine bandwidth wise for now, go for another 8gb later on if he needs it. Filling up RAM slots with 4gb sticks isn't worth the tiny 1-2% increase you'll see in performance, save them for more memory capacity down the road.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($12.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: I7 6700k ($309.99) On EBAY
Total: $722.54 (771.87 Before discounts)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 09:33 EDT-0400


If you can't get the Ebay i7, go i5.

Edit: Changed cooler
 
My wife's build is complete! Thanks everyone who helped me modify the build.

The s340 is a wonderful case. I liked it so much I actually bought me a new power supply and h440 to move mine into(i have more hard drives than the 340 will hold)
 

vector824

Member
My wife's build is complete! Thanks everyone who helped me modify the build.

The s340 is a wonderful case. I liked it so much I actually bought me a new power supply and h440 to move mine into(i have more hard drives than the 340 will hold)

Nice! I love my s340. You have pics of it?
 

ekim

Member
Does anyone have any thoughts on this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tg3Zf8

I'm not entirely sure what I'm really supposed to be looking for but it seems like all of the parts in this build would be compatible

Don't go for the founders edition of the 1080 at this price.
This one is cheaper: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8rcCJ/msi-video-card-geforcegtx1080aero8goc although it's still the same PCB/Clocks as the founders edition and a blower style cooler, it's $50 cheaper.

And I'm unsure about the power supply. I would go for 600W if you consider overclocking your build.
 

KageMaru

Member
Posted this in the 1070 review thread but I figure it wouldn't hurt to post my questions here too...

Played around with the clocks using Gigabyte's extreme software. So far I'm able to 1710/1900MHz base/boosted clock and with boost 3.0 it peaked at 2114MHz. I also raised the memory clock by 1000MHz.

Ran the fire strike and Unigine heaven demo a few times. No crashes yet and temps never went over 67 degrees.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13594611

I haven't touched the voltage or power limit bars yet, should I? Could keeping those settings at stock lead to a crash?

Also is there any way I can OC and not rely on any boost technology? Confused why I can't move my base clock to 1900 and not even use the boost mode in the card.
 

ReaperXL7

Member
Don't go for the founders edition of the 1080 at this price.
This one is cheaper: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8rcCJ/msi-video-card-geforcegtx1080aero8goc although it's still the same PCB/Clocks as the founders edition and a blower style cooler, it's $50 cheaper.

And I'm unsure about the power supply. I would go for 600W if you consider overclocking your build.

So something more like this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTrrVY

To be honest I'm not even entirely sure what overclocking actually is or how you go about doing it since this will be the first time I've ever really pushed to get into PC gaming, but this thread is a good rescourse for information and I'm still going through a lot of the links and info in the OP.

I'm debating on wether or not I should hold off on getting an SSD and bump the normal HDD up to 2 or 3tb and then pick up an SSD a little later since game sizes can be pretty big.
 

vector824

Member
So something more like this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTrrVY

To be honest I'm not even entirely sure what overclocking actually is or how you go about doing it since this will be the first time I've ever really pushed to get into PC gaming, but this thread is a good resource for information and I'm still going through a lot of the links and info in the OP.

I'm debating on whether or not I should hold off on getting an SSD and bump the normal HDD up to 2 or 3tb and then pick up an SSD a little later since game sizes can be pretty big.

That will be quite fast! Go for the 1tb and SSD now if you're pushing your budget, if you need to upgrade later it'll cost less as prices are dropping. An SSD for your OS will make your PC feel a lot faster. What's your max price?
 

ekim

Member
So something more like this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTrrVY

To be honest I'm not even entirely sure what overclocking actually is or how you go about doing it since this will be the first time I've ever really pushed to get into PC gaming, but this thread is a good rescourse for information and I'm still going through a lot of the links and info in the OP.

I'm debating on wether or not I should hold off on getting an SSD and bump the normal HDD up to 2 or 3tb and then pick up an SSD a little later since game sizes can be pretty big.

You should definitely go for an SSD even if just for the operating system and your basic programs like your Browser and use a second HDD for mass data like games. It's really making a big difference. If you are money constrained, you can opt for a cheaper Motherboard and increase the mass data HDD size as well as keeping an SSD.

Very basically, overclocking is increasing the number of times your CPU or GPU is processing data per second. The higher, the better obviously. But you can only go as high as your cooling and the chips (which is very individual for every chip) allows.

Another thought: The GTX 1070 has some 3rd party offerings that are overclocked already and are close to the performance of a "normal" GTX 1080 but way cheaper.
For example:
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The card in red is the one you want to buy. In green is the overclocked 1070 from Palit and beneath it, is the normal non-overclocked 1070.

The MSI offering is also good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127955 and just $439 instead of 699. You can also find 3rd party custom cooler designs for the 1080 that are cheaper than the founders edition.
 

ReaperXL7

Member
That will be quite fast! Go for the 1tb and SSD now if you're pushing your budget, if you need to upgrade later it'll cost less as prices are dropping. An SSD for your OS will make your PC feel a lot faster. What's your max price?

I will most likely keep the SSD and HDD combo since it seems fairly common advice. My budget is around 1500-1600 not including shipping and taxes but I'm buying in pieces for now to make it a bit more affordable. The 1080 or 1070 will be the first thing I purchase.

You should definitely go for an SSD even if just for the operating system and your basic programs like your Browser and use a second HDD for mass data like games. It's really making a big difference. If you are money constrained, you can opt for a cheaper Motherboard and increase the mass data HDD size as well as keeping an SSD.

Very basically, overclocking is increasing the number of times your CPU or GPU is processing data per second. The higher, the better obviously. But you can only go as high as your cooling and the chips (which is very individual for every chip) allows.

Another thought: The GTX 1070 has some 3rd party offerings that are overclocked already and are close to the performance of a "normal" GTX 1080 but way cheaper.
For example:
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The card in red is the one you want to buy. In green is the overclocked 1070 from Palit and beneath it, is the normal non-overclocked 1070.

The MSI offering is also good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127955 and just $439 instead of 699. You can also find 3rd party custom cooler designs for the 1080 that are cheaper than the founders edition.

Thanks for the information, I've been going back and forth on if I want to push for a 1080 or just go with the 1070. Do you think there will be a major difference between the lifespan of the two cards in relation to each other.

Overclocking is in general probably one of the most confusing (but interesting parts of this) but information on it seems split on wether you should or not. Up till now this was the only video I'd watched in full on the subject

https://youtu.be/CRiEStzOYeo
 

ekim

Member
I will most likely keep the SSD and HDD combo since it seems fairly common advice. My budget is around 1500-1600 not including shipping and taxes but I'm buying in pieces for now to make it a bit more affordable. The 1080 or 1070 will be the first thing I purchase.



Thanks for the information, I've been going back and forth on if I want to push for a 1080 or just go with the 1070. Do you think there will be a major difference between the lifespan of the two cards in relation to each other.

Overclocking is in general probably one of the most confusing (but interesting parts of this) but information on it seems split on wether you should or not. Up till now this was the only video I'd watched in full on the subject

https://youtu.be/CRiEStzOYeo

Mind you, you don't need to do overclocking but having the option available later once you are familiar with you system is nice to have. Between the 1070 and 1080 I don't expect the gap to grow over the years and personally the additional costs for the 1080 for the minor increase on the performance isn't worth it.

But the major question here is: What's your monitor? (Resolution/Refresh Rate)
 

ReaperXL7

Member
Mind you, you don't need to do overclocking but having the option available later once you are familiar with you system is nice to have. Between the 1070 and 1080 I don't expect the gap to grow over the years and personally the additional costs for the 1080 for the minor increase on the performance isn't worth it.

But the major question here is: What's your monitor? (Resolution/Refresh Rate)

For now because my budget is primarily going into the PC itself I'll be using my 4K TV until I can research a monitor that I really want. The Gsync monitors sound pretty nice though.

I posted my general info on the last page but it was near the bottom so I'm not surprised it got missed. I might take a look at the 1070 instead if the differences are not truly worth the extra cost.
 

Pacotez

Member
I reinserted the CPU, tried booting with 1 stick of RAM in different slots, tried booting with the graphics card taken out and the PC is still cycling on and off. I'm pretty confident everything is wired securely and in the right spot. I can't test if the PSU is the problem because it's the only one I have. Any other suggestions? I really appreciate the help given so far.

Sorry m8, I don't have any ideas on how to completely rule out either CPU, mobo or PSU without spare parts.
Can you ask a friend to test your PSU on their system or to let you use their PSU just to test your system out?
You could also spend a little and buy a cheap one just to see if it stays on instead of cycling.
 

ekim

Member
For now because my budget is primarily going into the PC itself I'll be using my 4K TV until I can research a monitor that I really want. The Gsync monitors sound pretty nice though.

I posted my general info on the last page but it was near the bottom so I'm not surprised it got missed. I might take a look at the 1070 instead if the differences are not truly worth the extra cost.

If you want to play natively@4K the little bit of extra crunch will surely help. Try to compare benchmarks in 4k between the 1070 and 1080
 

Dark-VIII

Member
i am collecting parts for my new PC at the moment and i want to know what kind of power supply i need:

Motherboard: Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel Z170 ATX DDR4 Motherboards GA-Z170X-UD5 TH
CPU: Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz (PC4-25600) C16 Memory Kit - Black (planning to get another one later)

should i get 1000 Watt or is 850 enough?
also, how can i make sure that the power supply run on 120V or 220V?
my city only has 220V
 

RootCause

Member
My parts should be arriving this week, no idea on the gpu since it hasn't shipped.

This is my first time building a PC, so I'm excited, but a little scared too. I've watched a ton of how to videos, I'm mostly scared of messing up the cpu, and applying the right amount of paste.

In the coming days I'll be bombarding you guys with questions. Hope I don't get on your nerves. :p

By the way, I went with the Evo 212, but I've been told there are better options. So I might get another one.
 

tim.mbp

Member
Are there any drawbacks to using a TV as a PC monitor? I want to move my PC to my bedroom so space is kind of limited. Would rather not have both a TV and monitor taking up space.
 

OneUh8

Member
Welp, I just ordered the rest of my parts. This is going to be my build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $309.99)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $104.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $145.80)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (Purchased For $84.99)
Storage: Crucial MX300 750GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $149.09)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $105.71)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (Purchased For $449.99)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $69.99)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $99.99)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans (Purchased For $24.99)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans (Purchased For $24.99)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120MP 53.3 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $12.99)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120MP 53.3 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $12.99)
Case Accessory: NZXT Hue+ LED Controller (Purchased For $59.99)
Monitor: AOC G2460PG 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (Purchased For $341.98)
Keyboard: Corsair K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $86.63)
Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $53.24)
UPS: CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS (Purchased For $134.95)
Other: Ensourced custom PSU cables (Purchased For $91.50)
Other: Corsair MM300 XL mousepad (Purchased For $29.99)
Other: CableMod ModFlex™ SATA 3 Cable - White (Purchased For $9.90)
Other: CableMod ModFlex™ SATA 3 Cable - White (Purchased For $9.90)
Other: Silverstone PWM Fan Hub (Purchased For $11.99)
Total: $2426.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 12:52 EDT-0400

Everything should be here by the weekend. Only think I know that is going to take a long time is the custom PSU cables. The guy just stopped taking orders as he is backed up. I will probably just use the stock cables for the time being until they come in and then finish my cable management then. Can't wait to get this all together. I hope I am satisfied with the onboard sound. I do have an SMSL amp/dac I can use. Will have to do an a/b test to hear which I like better. I have been contemplating getting the "Schiit stack". I'll Post pics here when it is all together and done.
 
No leave it in the top slot.

Ok. Both slots are PCI-E 3.0 16x. I always use the top slot out of habit, but I just noticed it was real close to the CPU cooler. I don't have temp problems so it's not an issue. It's a little higher than the opening on the side of my case. Just kind of wanted to be able to see the card and mess with LEDs. Not important.
 

Vic_Viper

Member
Have a question about the HDMI out on my MSI Z170A Mobo.

Can I use it to play games on a TV and if so how? My videocard only has 1 output and I dont want to constantly disconnect it and reconnect when switching from Monitor and TV.
 

Vuze

Member
Are there any drawbacks to using a TV as a PC monitor? I want to move my PC to my bedroom so space is kind of limited. Would rather not have both a TV and monitor taking up space.
Depends. You will want to make sure your TV has low input lag and a "Gamemode" of some sorts where all post processing is turned off.
Apart from the potential input lag issues, I'm not aware of any problems.

Have a question about the HDMI out on my MSI Z170A Mobo.

Can I use it to play games on a TV and if so how? My videocard only has 1 output and I dont want to constantly disconnect it and reconnect when switching from Monitor and TV.
The iGPU HDMI port cannot be bridged I think. Maybe get an adapter or cable for an input your monitor has outside of HDMI (DVI or Displayport perhaps)
 

TwistedMind

Neo Member
So I installed a new CPU cooler (H100 V2) , I used to have the Intel stock cooler .
When I am monitoring the temps under load they fluctuate rapidly :55>60>58>65>59 .... is that normal ?
 

Vic_Viper

Member
The iGPU HDMI port cannot be bridged I think. Maybe get an adapter or cable for an input your monitor has outside of HDMI (DVI or Displayport perhaps)

Damn. My last Videocard had 2 outs so this wouldnt have been an issue. I plan on upgrading videocards soon anyway. Preferably the 1070.
 

ekim

Member
I need a recommendation for a CPU cooler. I still use the boxed Intel cooler for the i7 4790K and its loud as hell and I think he is also to blame for the 74C on my GPU. I have a rather small Corsair Carbide 200R case and I want to install the new cooler as easy as possible. If it comes with a pre-applied thermal paste pad I would go for this. Can I easily remove the stock cooler with the thermal paste pad or did the pad "burn" onto the CPU? It should also come with an easy to use installation for the 1150 socket. Maximum price is 100€ and it should fit my case.
 

Vuze

Member
Damn. My last Videocard had 2 outs so this wouldnt have been an issue. I plan on upgrading videocards soon anyway. Preferably the 1070.
You will probably run into the same issue. I think the reference output for 1070 and 1080 only includes one HDMI as well (3x DP1.4, 1x HDMI, 1xDVI-D) and most partner cards stick to that. I think the ASUS STRIX has 2x HDMI though.
I can't blame them for going that route. Displayport is superior for PC monitors in every way. Sucks for people who use a TV + VR set or TV + HDMI monitor though.
 

dragn

Member
i am collecting parts for my new PC at the moment and i want to know what kind of power supply i need:

Motherboard: Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel Z170 ATX DDR4 Motherboards GA-Z170X-UD5 TH
CPU: Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz (PC4-25600) C16 Memory Kit - Black (planning to get another one later)

should i get 1000 Watt or is 850 enough?
also, how can i make sure that the power supply run on 120V or 220V?
my city only has 220V

500-600watt is enough for a oc 1080
 
Fan experts I could use some help...

I'm going to be transferring my computer to a new case and upgrading a couple parts. The case I'm getting is the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass. I'm using a Corsair H100 AIO cooler and was thinking about mounting it at the top of the case with 2 Corsair ML Pro 120 LED fans. Then at the back I would put 1 Corsair ML Pro 140 LED fan and at the front I'd leave the stock fans that come with the case since you can't really see those very well (I also have 3 Noctua F12 fans I could re-use for the front... I think the case supports 3x120mm fans in front).

How does this set up sound and what would be the optimal way for the fans to face? I was thinking the 2 fans at top would blow out, the one in the rear would also blow out, and the fans in front would pull air in to the case.

I'd be running a Zotac Amp Extreme GTX 1080 if that matters...

Quoting for a new page :)
 

KageMaru

Member
Anyone have recommendations for a PSU that's good for OC? I thoughts watts count was the most important but I'm reading that I shouldn't be doing any OC with my PSU linked below.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/457306/CX_Series_CX750M_750_Watt_ATX_Modular_Power_Supply

I'm thinking of getting this one linked below but was wondering if anyone has any other suggestions or comments on this PSU?

http://www.microcenter.com/product/457301/RM_Series_RM850_850_Watt_ATX_Modular_Power_Supply

For those wondering this guide at Tom's Hardware states my PSU is not adequate for overclocking. There is a PSU tier list included and my PSU is tier 4.

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2749337/safe-gpu-overclocking-guide-2016.html

Edit:

Are there any drawbacks to using a TV as a PC monitor? I want to move my PC to my bedroom so space is kind of limited. Would rather not have both a TV and monitor taking up space.

I think the biggest drawback is higher refresh rates for a gaming monitor. Response times are also usually longer for TV than a gaming monitor.

This is a pretty good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxvu7qf6rDw
 

kuYuri

Member
I need a recommendation for a CPU cooler. I still use the boxed Intel cooler for the i7 4790K and its loud as hell and I think he is also to blame for the 74C on my GPU. I have a rather small Corsair Carbide 200R case and I want to install the new cooler as easy as possible. If it comes with a pre-applied thermal paste pad I would go for this. Can I easily remove the stock cooler with the thermal paste pad or did the pad "burn" onto the CPU? It should also come with an easy to use installation for the 1150 socket. Maximum price is 100€ and it should fit my case.

If you're willing to go that high in price, get yourself one of those nice be quiet coolers. If you can get the Dark Rock Pro 3, you are definitely golden, but any of them will do.
 
Anyone know what the 12v input cable on the Phanteks P400 is? It looks identical to the connections on the Sata power on the HDD.

It is a sata power connector connect like you would a sata drive. I spent a good while looking at the one in my Evolv case really confused. I don't know if you need to connect it to its own cable, but I did just to be safe.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Holy shit, the 1070 is absolutely insane. Maxed out DOOM locked at downsampled 1440p/60fps. Topped out at 52c.

What a jump from my Titan Black. This thing runs like a dream.
 

cebri.one

Member
My parts should be arriving this week, no idea on the gpu since it hasn't shipped.

This is my first time building a PC, so I'm excited, but a little scared too. I've watched a ton of how to videos, I'm mostly scared of messing up the cpu, and applying the right amount of paste.

In the coming days I'll be bombarding you guys with questions. Hope I don't get on your nerves. :p

By the way, I went with the Evo 212, but I've been told there are better options. So I might get another one.

I'll be building my first this Wednesday and i have the same concerns. CPU placement and cooler installation, the rest will be (hopefully) easier.

Know how it feels. ;D
 
Need some GPU advice.

I'm currently on a 290x that's reasonably good for performance still, but it looks like I may be facing some hardware failure. As such, I'm looking at my options for GPUs. Here are my bullet point desires:

-I recently purchased a 4k TV and I'd like to use it. 290x doesn't really work with it due to having old HDMI that can't support 4k above 30fps. Seems to me though that there isn't much in the way of GPUs that can do much above 4k 30fps though. Can one have good 4k experiences right now if they're willing to turn down some settings with any graphics cards? The 1070 for example?

-Should I just sit on my hands until next year some time? Are we headed to affordable 4k gaming? Or are we likely upscaling for the foreseeable future?

Advice is appreciated! Thanks!
 

KageMaru

Member
Need some GPU advice.

I'm currently on a 290x that's reasonably good for performance still, but it looks like I may be facing some hardware failure. As such, I'm looking at my options for GPUs. Here are my bullet point desires:

-I recently purchased a 4k TV and I'd like to use it. 290x doesn't really work with it due to having old HDMI that can't support 4k above 30fps. Seems to me though that there isn't much in the way of GPUs that can do much above 4k 30fps though. Can one have good 4k experiences right now if they're willing to turn down some settings with any graphics cards? The 1070 for example?

-Should I just sit on my hands until next year some time? Are we headed to affordable 4k gaming? Or are we likely upscaling for the foreseeable future?

Advice is appreciated! Thanks!

The 1070 isn't really good enough for great 4K gaming at 60fps IMO. I've even read enough comments about the 1080 struggling to hit a consistent 60fps, but that may be at max settings.

If you're willing to wait until next year, Nvidia's Volta architecture sounds promising. AMD is also releasing their Vega cards, so hopefully affordable 4K gaming will hit us next year.
 
The 1070 isn't really good enough for great 4K gaming at 60fps IMO. I've even read enough comments about the 1080 struggling to hit a consistent 60fps, but that may be at max settings.

If you're willing to wait until next year, Nvidia's Volta architecture sounds promising. AMD is also releasing their Vega cards, so hopefully affordable 4K gaming will hit us next year.

Thanks a lot. I assumed as much about the 1070, but it's disappointing to hear the 1080 even struggles. It does make me want to wait, but I fear that unless AMD really pushes things with their Vega cards, Nvidia will be charging a huge premium for cards that more comfortably handle 4k.
 

Rizific

Member
so ive got this Dell S2716DGR coming in the mail and my current rig is a 2500k+r9 390. so obviously ill need a nvidia gpu to take full advantage of the monitor. now my main concern is performance and hitting 100+fps at 1440p. max settings arent important and i will turn off whatever i need to in order to get to where i want. so will a 1070 do the job? because if not, i could save some major loot and go with a BenQ XL2702Z and keep my 390. a 27" 1080p monitor doesnt bother me, neither do TN panels. will mostly be playing overwatch and bf1.
 

Oxn

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Is screen tearing just alot more frequent in PC games, or is it just easier to notice here?

When i look for it, it just seems to be so frequent.
 
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