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IT'S WORKING! i had to remove the CMOS battery from the motherboard. Now my only issue is getting my USB as a bootable device to install windows 10.
 
IT'S WORKING! i had to remove the CMOS battery from the motherboard. Now my only issue is getting my USB as a bootable device to install windows 10.

Man haven't heard someone using this solution in a long time lol.

There are programs available that will quickly make your usb drive into a bootable one eg Rufus

If its not detecting the usb for some reason you can go in the bios and change the boot order of your system.
 
Loving my Nitro upgrade from my Gigabyte 290x. Performance isn't that much better in most situations, but man, the noise level is a million times better. I can actually unlock from 60 and not have a jet engine sitting right next to me.

Custom fan profile has it running at a very silent 50% while at pretty cool 60ish temp.


I actually don't hear my damn card while gaming. So QOL is much improved. This card is a steal at 289 USD.
 

BasicMath

Member
Personally, if I was your friend, I wouldn't be getting another 1070 to SLI it. Sell it, and get that 1080 he wants. Or keep with it, and sell + buy the 1080 in a few months for cheaper (or get the TI).
He went with the SLI 1070s already. He thought it would be a hassle to sell the 1070 and go for the 1080. Not to mention that the 1070s will deliver better performance than a 1080 in most games that matter. 1080ti wasn't really an option because it's both unreleased and likely going to be like $850+ based on how this gen's pricing has turned out. Thanks, AMD.

In the end, I felt all kinds of bad because I followed all the reviews that said the 1070 was for 1440p Max at 60FPS and recommended the thing.
 
So I'm pretty sure I (accidentally) messed up my CPU when I was removing the thermal and redoing it. Build doesn't start anymore.

Anyone in this threa have a LGA1155 CPU they are trying to unload? Please message me if you do.
 

Echoes

Member
Running into a problem here that I can't identify. I was browsing around normally, when all of a sudden the CPU fan shot up to 100% speed (from what I can hear) and the CPU temp was 90° (I'm not OCing). I opened the ASUS AI Suite app to check what speed the fan was at, and it showed N/A.

imagec6si1.jpg

I restarted the PC and now I'm getting this:


I haven't changed anything for a few weeks. But I opened the case again and re-plugged the CPU fan cable and the USB 2.0 cable, still nothing.

Any tips? I'm in the midst of crucial work now. :/
 
So I'm pretty sure I (accidentally) messed up my CPU when I was removing the thermal and redoing it. Build doesn't start anymore.

Anyone in this threa have a LGA1155 CPU they are trying to unload? Please message me if you do.

Unless there's an obvious CPU issue then it's likely you've damaged the pins in the socket, instead.

Are you sure you've plugged everything in - CPU 4+4 12v cable etc.
 
Unless there's an obvious CPU issue then it's likely you've damaged the pins in the socket, instead.

Are you sure you've plugged everything in - CPU 4+4 12v cable etc.

Well I just switched out all my parts into a new case, PC turns on and off and repeats. Removed everything except ram, psu, CPU/heat sink.

The CPU looks like there is a small piece sticking out on the bottom. I'll take pictures. When I get home I'll try to show in a picture.


And yes I made sure all power cables were connected properly
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
So is there ANY clue as to what sort of improvements we can expect on Kaby Lake motherboards/CPUs?

Intel seems to have gone totally mum
 

Jezbollah

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He went with the SLI 1070s already. He thought it would be a hassle to sell the 1070 and go for the 1080. Not to mention that the 1070s will deliver better performance than a 1080 in most games that matter. 1080ti wasn't really an option because it's both unreleased and likely going to be like $850+ based on how this gen's pricing has turned out. Thanks, AMD.

In the end, I felt all kinds of bad because I followed all the reviews that said the 1070 was for 1440p Max at 60FPS and recommended the thing.

Yep, the problem with following the reviews is they caveat the benchmarks/performance quite hard - in most games the 1070 is adequate for the kind of experience you advocated - so I wouldn't feel bad if I was you. It's still a very solid card.

Amazon have it a little cheaper, and free delivery if you already have prime https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G844L88/

Good spot!
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Very, very little beyond 3D Xpoint. It's pretty much a refresh of Skylake, similar to Devil's Canyon vs original Haswell.

I am wondering if it will drop the price of Skylake mobos and CPUs...

I seem to recall that USB3.1 will be natively supported on Kaby Lake.

That seems like a big deal.
 

LordAlu

Member
Running into a problem here that I can't identify. I was browsing around normally, when all of a sudden the CPU fan shot up to 100% speed (from what I can hear) and the CPU temp was 90° (I'm not OCing). I opened the ASUS AI Suite app to check what speed the fan was at, and it showed N/A.



I restarted the PC and now I'm getting this:



I haven't changed anything for a few weeks. But I opened the case again and re-plugged the CPU fan cable and the USB 2.0 cable, still nothing.

Any tips? I'm in the midst of crucial work now. :/
I've seen this happen and have no idea what causes it. Doesn't seem to be for any particular motherboard/processor either.

It's just the BIOS reporting it wrong, so if you go into your BIOS and turn off the fan error warning you can use your system fine again. You just won't be able to monitor fan speed.
 
Unless there's an obvious CPU issue then it's likely you've damaged the pins in the socket, instead.

Are you sure you've plugged everything in - CPU 4+4 12v cable etc.

https://imgur.com/a/DoRgs


Here are a bunch of photos of the socket and the CPU. Notice the little blemish on the CPU and this is what has me thinking it's the CPU. What does everyone think? Bad mobo or bad CPU? I need to get my PC in working order ASAP.
 
https://imgur.com/a/DoRgs


Here are a bunch of photos of the socket and the CPU. Notice the little blemish on the CPU and this is what has me thinking it's the CPU. What does everyone think? Bad mobo or bad CPU? I need to get my PC in working order ASAP.

Yeah I can see the blemish on the CPU but if you look on the socket picks, it seems there is a number of bent pins also.

itdeadjim, could be both CPU and Mobo.
 

Echoes

Member
I've seen this happen and have no idea what causes it. Doesn't seem to be for any particular motherboard/processor either.

It's just the BIOS reporting it wrong, so if you go into your BIOS and turn off the fan error warning you can use your system fine again. You just won't be able to monitor fan speed.
Thanks for the reply. I don't mind not getting the fan speed, but the CPU temperature is off the roof (gets as high as 93). Is that also an error?
 

LordAlu

Member
https://imgur.com/a/DoRgs


Here are a bunch of photos of the socket and the CPU. Notice the little blemish on the CPU and this is what has me thinking it's the CPU. What does everyone think? Bad mobo or bad CPU? I need to get my PC in working order ASAP.
The blemish on the CPU looks like it's a pin that came out of the socket and is stuck to it. But that socket is knackered, so you'll definitely need to replace the board. The CPU might be okay if you can get rid of that blemish with a soft cloth.
Thanks for the reply. I don't mind not getting the fan speed, but the CPU temperature is off the roof (gets as high as 93). Is that also an error?
If the fan is still spinning fine whilst your system is on then the board is probably misreading the temperature (as it assumes the fan isn't moving either). So long as the cooler is correctly mounted and the fan is spinning it should be just fine.
 

demented

Member
I wrote in another thread because of 2 things it's time to make a new pc. Here's what I currently have:
Code:
CPU Motherboard Graphics RAM
i5-3570K, 3.40GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H-WB WIFI MSI 7970 2x4GB 1600MHz Corsair XMS CL9, CMX8GX3M2B1600C9
Hard Drive Hard Drive Hard Drive Cooling
128GB Samsung 840 Pro Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB Xigmatek Gaia SD1283
OS Monitor Keyboard Power
Windows 7 BenQ G2400WD Logitech G15 800W COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold
Case Mouse Mouse Pad Audio
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 Razer Deathadder Razer Mantis Xonar DG

I'll try to sell my cpu, mobo (doesn't have pciex16 slot anymore), graphics card (first I'll take it to service to see if it can be fixed because that will certainly influence my price, the fans don't work below 85%) and ram. Think I'll keep the rest, maybe new mouse since this one's mid click is pretty much dead and maybe new HDD since ones I have are from 2008 and there are no signs of death but I'm always afraid. I'll do that if I get money left over.
While at it I think it's good time to format the ssd and install win10, although the idea of setting it all up again is daunting.

As for new config I took the ideas from OP and I think this is best you can do in my case.

CPU - i5 6600k not much use of i7 in games for me afaik
graphics - nvidia 1070, kinda wanna take a break from AMD, last 2 cards died or became faulty. I play at 2k resolution and no 144hz monitor any time soon so think this will do fine.

MOBO - Gigabyte z170 XP or A, maybe Asus z170a whatever I find for best price here.
DDR4 16 gb (32 overkill?)

I think this will all roughly cost me bit over 1000 euros, and maybe I can sell my parts for 200, if graphics card gets fixed bit more.
Am I good to go?

A friend gave me a better idea maybe, I could buy new z77 if I find it for cheap, switch ram for faster one and more of it, add nvidia 1060 and that will hold me until next gen comes and when I sell things I won't use anymore the upgrade will be far far below what I'd spend on upgrades I listed. What do you guys think? Or maybe I should go with 1070, I want something that will keep running games GOOD until like 2020 or when ddr5 comes and other good stuff?
 

Echoes

Member
The blemish on the CPU looks like it's a pin that came out of the socket and is stuck to it. But that socket is knackered, so you'll definitely need to replace the board. The CPU might be okay if you can get rid of that blemish with a soft cloth.

If the fan is still spinning fine whilst your system is on then the board is probably misreading the temperature (as it assumes the fan isn't moving either). So long as the cooler is correctly mounted and the fan is spinning it should be just fine.
One curious thing is that the fan doesn't show on the BIOS (CPU Fan reads as N/A). So in this case I either have to change the fan or live with it running at 100% speed, right? (It was mostly at 40% before. I miss the silence. :()
 
Yeah I can see the blemish on the CPU but if you look on the socket picks, it seems there is a number of bent pins also.

itdeadjim, could be both CPU and Mobo.

The blemish on the CPU looks like it's a pin that came out of the socket and is stuck to it. But that socket is knackered, so you'll definitely need to replace the board. The CPU might be okay if you can get rid of that blemish with a soft cloth.

If the fan is still spinning fine whilst your system is on then the board is probably misreading the temperature (as it assumes the fan isn't moving either). So long as the cooler is correctly mounted and the fan is spinning it should be just fine.


Any chance y'all could recommend a board that won't break the bank? I need 4 ram slots. Hard to look for this stuff on my phone and keep striking out on places I have looked.
 
The blemish on the CPU looks like it's a pin that came out of the socket and is stuck to it. But that socket is knackered, so you'll definitely need to replace the board. The CPU might be okay if you can get rid of that blemish with a soft cloth.

If the fan is still spinning fine whilst your system is on then the board is probably misreading the temperature (as it assumes the fan isn't moving either). So long as the cooler is correctly mounted and the fan is spinning it should be just fine.

I was able to remove the piece that was above the chip itself. I still can't get rid of the small blemish that remains.

I think I am going to order this intel BOXDQ67SWB3 and take my chances that it was just the mobo and that the cpu will still work even with the blemish. If it doesn't work then I know that I have to replace mobo/cpu/ram and have a much more expensive venture to go through.

edit: found the same board on ebay for $28 used. Gonna keep looking through used options now since it's much cheaper haha.

edit: Sorry for the double post, didn't even realize it :/
 
Hey guys.

So I posted in here not long ago about an AMD 9590 chipset that kept crashing windows and was told it was due to lack of liquid cooling. That was 100% correct so instead of buying a liquid cooler my friend decided to get a new motherboard and an i5 6600k instead. He didn't want to spend more money on the cooler and got a trade in.

Anyway, we got the place to install everything and we would install a fresh copy of Windows. I used the media create tool to do so and so far we've had the worst luck ever. It would crash all the time, and every time it would give us a different error, and from googling it seems it's all driver related, but we couldn't install new drivers due to it crashing.

Well now we decided to update the bios first with the new drivers as the latest one was to support new CPUs. We used the EZ flash update 3 to automatically down load the driver and install. It downloaded no problem and then promptly froze during the update. We left it for an hour. We had no choice but to reboot knowing what would happen and now it boots up for 5 seconds then shuts down. We even removed the CMOS battery twice.

The motherboard, a Z170-k has a bios recovery system built in according to the manual. All we needed was the original disc is came with or a USB drive and it said it would read it and recover it. However all it does is the same boot up and then shut down on a boot loop.

He's having the worst luck and is ready to throw this thing. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
 

LilJoka

Member
Hey guys.

So I posted in here not long ago about an AMD 9590 chipset that kept crashing windows and was told it was due to lack of liquid cooling. That was 100% correct so instead of buying a liquid cooler my friend decided to get a new motherboard and an i5 6600k instead. He didn't want to spend more money on the cooler and got a trade in.

Anyway, we got the place to install everything and we would install a fresh copy of Windows. I used the media create tool to do so and so far we've had the worst luck ever. It would crash all the time, and every time it would give us a different error, and from googling it seems it's all driver related, but we couldn't install new drivers due to it crashing.

Well now we decided to update the bios first with the new drivers as the latest one was to support new CPUs. We used the EZ flash update 3 to automatically down load the driver and install. It downloaded no problem and then promptly froze during the update. We left it for an hour. We had no choice but to reboot knowing what would happen and now it boots up for 5 seconds then shuts down. We even removed the CMOS battery twice.

The motherboard, a Z170-k has a bios recovery system built in according to the manual. All we needed was the original disc is came with or a USB drive and it said it would read it and recover it. However all it does is the same boot up and then shut down on a boot loop.

He's having the worst luck and is ready to throw this thing. Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Sounds like a hardware issue.
I don't want to say "told you so", but for the future: Never update the bios via Windows. And never update the bios if we cannot get the system to stay up with a decent certainty.

I think to do bios flashback you'll need the bios file extracted (if it downloaded as zip) to the root of the USB. Plug the USB into the flashback USB slot.
Initiate the flashback mode as the mobo manual states.

It sounds like a RAM issue - try using a known good set of RAM Modules before trying the flashback.

Do we have details on the exact errors we were getting in Windows? Were these BSODs?
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Hey guys.

So I posted in here not long ago about an AMD 9590 chipset that kept crashing windows and was told it was due to lack of liquid cooling. That was 100% correct so instead of buying a liquid cooler my friend decided to get a new motherboard and an i5 6600k instead. He didn't want to spend more money on the cooler and got a trade in.

Anyway, we got the place to install everything and we would install a fresh copy of Windows. I used the media create tool to do so and so far we've had the worst luck ever. It would crash all the time, and every time it would give us a different error, and from googling it seems it's all driver related, but we couldn't install new drivers due to it crashing.

Well now we decided to update the bios first with the new drivers as the latest one was to support new CPUs. We used the EZ flash update 3 to automatically down load the driver and install. It downloaded no problem and then promptly froze during the update. We left it for an hour. We had no choice but to reboot knowing what would happen and now it boots up for 5 seconds then shuts down. We even removed the CMOS battery twice.

The motherboard, a Z170-k has a bios recovery system built in according to the manual. All we needed was the original disc is came with or a USB drive and it said it would read it and recover it. However all it does is the same boot up and then shut down on a boot loop.

He's having the worst luck and is ready to throw this thing. Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Sounds like bad memory to me. Have you run memtest?

And yeah, trying to update Windows or the bios or something while the system isn't stable is just asking for problems.
 
Sounds like a hardware issue.
I don't want to say "told you so", but for the future: Never update the bios via Windows. And never update the bios if we cannot get the system to stay up with a decent certainty.

I think to do bios flashback you'll need the bios file extracted (if it downloaded as zip) to the root of the USB. Plug the USB into the flashback USB slot.
Initiate the flashback mode as the mobo manual states.

It sounds like a RAM issue - try using a known good set of RAM Modules before trying the flashback.

Do we have details on the exact errors we were getting in Windows? Were these BSODs?

I didn't actually update the bios via Windows. I did it via the bios itself. It supports bios updates via the internet through bios.

As far as the flashback settings, the manual doesn't mention a specific USB port although I have tried all of them, and it doesn't even work with the disc. There's also nothing to press on the motherboard to initiate it.

All the errors we got on Windows were BSOD but there were so many different ones I can't remember. Funnily enough we eventually got windows to be stable by installing the motherboard disc and updating windows drivers but had to reinstall because we selected the pro edition and his key was for the home edition :/

Edit: took out the ram and now it powers up properly but nothing on the screen. Seems like it is bad ram, so we're taking the whole thing back tomorrow.
 

LilJoka

Member
I didn't actually update the bios via Windows. I did it via the bios itself. It supports bios updates via the internet through bios.

As far as the flashback settings, the manual doesn't mention a specific USB port although I have tried all of them, and it doesn't even work with the disc. There's also nothing to press on the motherboard to initiate it.

All the errors we got on Windows were BSOD but there were so many different ones I can't remember. Funnily enough we eventually got windows to be stable by installing the motherboard disc and updating windows drivers but had to reinstall because we selected the pro edition and his key was for the home edition :/

Edit: took out the ram and now it powers up properly but nothing on the screen. Seems like it is bad ram, so we're taking the whole thing back tomorrow.

You will need atleast 1 ram module for a successful POST.

Windows drivers got nothing to do with it, just a coincidence.
 

gamma

Member
3.8ghz stock is incorrect.
The board is applying a core enhancement. You should be able to turn that off in the OC section - the setting is usually near the CPU multiplier. Once turned off you can observe the real stock behaviour.

Having to reset cmos due to insufficient vcore is somewhat normal, most boards will fail to POST a few times and reset themselves to stock. You may want to check if any bios updates addressed fhis.

Thanks, I actually never realized that turboing all cores to 3.8GHz isn't factory default. Although it doesn't really matter since I'm trying to OC anyway.

So I've been playing around with different clocks and vcores all day and ended up with 4.4GHz at 1.28V. I put llc on turbo which I suppose is one of the higher settings. I only tested it with a short prime run but it seems stable. I did however get some crashes in Battlefield 1 but I'm not sure if they are related to the OC since they say something about the nVidia drivers which I updated today. I'm gonna run prime overnight to test for stability.

Are the OC values fine? I read that high llc values degrade the CPU over time. I also need to switch to an offset vcore so it doesn't run on the higher one all the time.
 

kennah

Member
For the first time in my computing career, I have a 1080p Monitor (which I got used for $20). Plugged it in and wondering why it all looks so fuzzy, then I realized it only looks that way because it's next to my Retina MacBook. But, still nice to have a bigger screen! Excited to play some games on it on my desktop later.
 

Grexeno

Member
Well it's about time for me to build my first PC, so

Your Current Specs:None
Budget: Targeting $1500, but willing to splurge up to $2000. Located in the US
Main Use:Gaming with with just the bog-standard non-gaming applications.
Monitor Resolution: I don't see myself really trying for 4K very often, mostly 1080 the vast majority of the time. However, I do hope to play my consoles on the monitor as well.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Well what I really want to do is shove about 500 mods up Skyrim's ass but that probably doesn't require any specific parts. :p Generally I would hope for 60 FPS solid.
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A since first PC, but I suppose I'm hoping to make the 1080 the centerpiece
When will you build?: Before the end of the year, preferably as soon as possible.
Will you be overclocking?: Nope
 
Well it's about time for me to build my first PC, so

Your Current Specs:None
Budget: Targeting $1500, but willing to splurge up to $2000. Located in the US
Main Use:Gaming with with just the bog-standard non-gaming applications.
Monitor Resolution: I don't see myself really trying for 4K very often, mostly 1080 the vast majority of the time. However, I do hope to play my consoles on the monitor as well.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Well what I really want to do is shove about 500 mods up Skyrim's ass but that probably doesn't require any specific parts. :p Generally I would hope for 60 FPS solid.
Looking to reuse any parts?: N/A since first PC, but I suppose I'm hoping to make the 1080 the centerpiece
When will you build?: Before the end of the year, preferably as soon as possible.
Will you be overclocking?: Nope

Here's a kickass build that's in your budget. 1440p IPS monitor, i5-6600K, GTX 1070, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD, RGB-lit mechanical keyboard and gaming mouse.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.43 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.10 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card ($394.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.98 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($119.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 25.0" 60Hz Monitor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($137.40 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Sabre RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1934.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-23 23:41 EDT-0400

I included overclockable parts in your build because with a budget like that, it would be a waste not to. Your performance will be amazing right out of the box, but a few years down the line, if you find yourself wanting a little bit more out of your PC, you can look up how to overclock an i5-6600K and squeeze some more performance out of it.

I went for the 1070 because the 1080 was really limiting my ability to include a top-tier keyboard and mouse, and because the GTX 1080 is sickeningly overkill for gaming at 1920x1080. Hell, the 1070 is too - which is why this build includes a 25-inch IPS 1440p monitor.

Let me know what you think!
 

Dio

Banned
So I just pre-ordered the samsung 960. Once that comes in, my build should be complete. Feels bad man... D:

I'm in the same boat. If you preordered the 960 just now, though, the 6-8 week wait might not be worth it, maybe? I'm fine with mine because I preordered it when the wait was 2-4 for shipping.

I'm just thinking that Amazon and Newegg and stuff would have certain amounts of stock.
 
Hey so I threw this build together for my friend, gonna help him build his first computer and he had a budget of about $600

Just wanted to run it through the experts here to see if this is a pretty good build for $600 or nah
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($41.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.39 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.95 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Other: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti ($140.00)
Total: $601.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-24 01:40 EDT-0400
 

desmax

Member
So, I was searching for new motherboards I could use for an i5 6400 that I have laying around, and I found a H110M that uses DDR3 ram.

A few months back I had brought 16gb of ram of frequency 1333mhz since that's what's compatible with the motherboard currently on my machine.

I heard frequency isn't so much relevant for frame rates, but I just want to make sure; is it really not much of a deal for gaming PC's? I'd rather not have to buy new ram sticks, if possible
 

LilJoka

Member
So, I was searching for new motherboards I could use for an i5 6400 that I have laying around, and I found a H110M that uses DDR3 ram.

A few months back I had brought 16gb of ram of frequency 1333mhz since that's what's compatible with the motherboard currently on my machine.

I heard frequency isn't so much relevant for frame rates, but I just want to make sure; is it really not much of a deal for gaming PC's? I'd rather not have to buy new ram sticks, if possible

Most of these skylake ddr3 boards need low voltage ddr3, 1.35v. Most ddr3 was 1.5v so be careful. Memory speed makes some difference, for ddr3 1866 cl10 or ddr4 2666 cl14 are the areas you want.
 

LilJoka

Member
Thanks, I actually never realized that turboing all cores to 3.8GHz isn't factory default. Although it doesn't really matter since I'm trying to OC anyway.

So I've been playing around with different clocks and vcores all day and ended up with 4.4GHz at 1.28V. I put llc on turbo which I suppose is one of the higher settings. I only tested it with a short prime run but it seems stable. I did however get some crashes in Battlefield 1 but I'm not sure if they are related to the OC since they say something about the nVidia drivers which I updated today. I'm gonna run prime overnight to test for stability.

Are the OC values fine? I read that high llc values degrade the CPU over time. I also need to switch to an offset vcore so it doesn't run on the higher one all the time.

LLC is mysterious, it needs a digital oscilloscope to determine its real effect. In the old days of 1st gen core, it was deemed as problematic due to excessive overshoot. But new boards should not have a problem.

I would use the one from highest setting for LLC, or atleast read up on your board series to see what others determined for the level of LLC needed.

Yes you should get it stable on manual then switch to offset, beware that usually offset will need another small vcore bump in general.

When switching to offset, a higher LLC has much greater chances for instability at lower speeds.
 
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