Pagusas
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Very nice, I guess its fair to say u.2 is dead in the water. Sad, as my Maximum Impact VIII skipped the m.2 slot for a u.2 slot.
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Very nice, I guess its fair to say u.2 is dead in the water. Sad, as my Maximum Impact VIII skipped the m.2 slot for a u.2 slot.
Will try this later on, thanks.
finalflame
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So... when's nVidia gonna let the 1080Ti out of the bag?
Tried it takes for ever to do not a damn thing
There are several 1060's that fit the Mini-ITX spec. There are also 2 1070's that fit the Mini-ITX spec:
Gigabyte's 1070 mini and ZOTAC's.
Also ZOTAC has unveiled a 1080mini within the Mini-ITX spec of 6.7inches on the PCB, the Heatsink and the fans and the plastic shroud might be close to 200mm though, so near to 8inches.
That card SHOULD still fit in an S4 mini if you shave 2mm from the inside of the wrap-around bezel. since it's 200mm from the card's IO to the bezel and the bezel is 5mm thick.
So a 7700K, upto 32GB of DDR4 upwards of 4000MHz and a 1080 can fit inside an S4 mini. This thing is only 4.3L... a true console killer, and pretty well future-proofed gaming PC in a slick case to boot!
Cheers, I think they should have the Gigabyte 1070 mini in Singapore.. Not sure if they have S4 mini over there though! (or in Indonesia where I am right now) Probably will need to shop around for alternate miniITX case if I do move there.
LostMyNarbles
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Their CES show is tonight at 9:30PM Eastern and I think it has been rumored they will unveil the card at it.
lostsupper
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Did you adjust VCCIO and VCCSA? Nearly every z170 board can manage 3200MHz without issue.
It gets more difficult as you overclock the CPU on top of ram OC, unless you really loosen timings. Plus pushing VCCIO and VCCSA can quickly raise temps too.
Cuban Legend
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Anyone can order an NFC S4-mini. they are special numbered cases made by Josh from his company "Not From Concentrate", you can see the site he has here: http://nfc-systems.com/shop/s4-mini-chassis You can order them from there if they are in stock. But since they are sold out, you can email him for availability and to preorder. I emailed him last month and he expects my case to ship in late Feb.
You can see an indepth review of the S4-mini here
Anyone can order an NFC S4-mini. they are special numbered cases made by Josh from his company "Not From Concentrate", you can see the site he has here: http://nfc-systems.com/shop/s4-mini-chassis You can order them from there if they are in stock. But since they are sold out, you can email him for availability and to preorder. I emailed him last month and he expects my case to ship in late Feb.
You can see an indepth review of the S4-mini here
hmm I'll have to think about it haha. The price + tax & shipping might be too much, plus the required non standard psu. It does look great though! :d
Cuban Legend
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True, it is an expensive case but it's made out of aircraft grade aluminum IIRC, that bezel is expensive, here's a quote from his page on it's construction:
"The chassis interior is constructed of aluminum and is anodized jet-black. The exterior cover panels are constructed from thick aluminum and are powdercoated with a matte black textured finish (cast iron black). The wrap-around bezel is constructed from 5mm thick aluminum and is brushed and anodized jet black. All aluminum is utra-premium, as quality is incredibly important to me. The removable fan bracket and duo SSD bracket are constructed from steel and powdercoated black."
Powedercoats are super-durable but almost completely scratch resistant. Plus all of the S4 Mini's are numbered since they are preordered and low-volume, so I'd say they're a premium case and not a mass production case. Here's why I decided on it though (quote from http://nfc-systems.com/s4-mini/)
"Coolers 40mm in height are more than enough for 35w Skylake i7s, and with ample room for next gen 8" cards, 4k gaming in a box the size of a ream of paper is a reality. "
Being able to take my PC wherever I go it a HUUUGE plus, so 4K gaming while travelling is the really big selling point for me on this case.
killertofu
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A little off topic but I'm interested in buying a tower Mac Pro with a Xeon W3690 @ 3.46ghz. 1 Processor, 6 cores, 12 threads.
Is that decent processor? It's mainly going to be used for post production (After Effects, etc) but maybe I'll dual boot Windows on the side as well.
Is that decent processor? It's mainly going to be used for post production (After Effects, etc) but maybe I'll dual boot Windows on the side as well.
So, the new Intels 7600K and 7700K are better with RAM frequency and overclocking capabilites than Skylake processors? I'm a bit confused about the article.
Cuban Legend
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at 3200MHz, yes, in SOME cases.
Lets remember that Kaby Lake z270 mobo's, some have DDR4 slots that are rated past 4200MHz, so if they used RAM that was rated higher, they might be able to get it stable at a higher clock speed than on Skylake CPUs/Mobo's...
Once I can put together my Z270 build with my 4000MHz Cosriar LPX RAM and my 7700K, I'll test it out and post results. Here's hoping I can at least get past 3600MHz, it'd be a novelty and just extra points if I can manage 4000MHz stable or close to it, since there's diminishing returns after 3200.
ASUS Just updated the Z270i STRIX (Mini-ITX) Landing page: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-Z270I-Gaming/overview/
This confirms the USB-3.0Type C support, the USB 3.1 front-panel header, and the dual M.2 PCIE slots (one on rear & one on front of motherboard):
If you only have 1 HDMI port in your motherboard then you will need an HDMI splitter that splits your HDMI port into 2 HDMI ports.
Edit: Nevermind, seems you can only have one display active at a time but you can switch with one is active with the splitter. It's not what you are looking for.
Whichever component is actually in use and sending a signal.
Uh... Meaning "yes"? I mean, both my mobo and my GPU are always in use, right? So... yes?
Also, what if I use the HDMI port and the DVI port of the same component? Will that work?
finalflame
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I wonder what are the odds that Zotac will follow suit and also make a 1080 Ti Mini. I know it's unlikely, but I'd hate to put a 1080 Mini in my mITX build only to have them release a 1080 Ti mini down the line.
Cuban Legend
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Who knows... but I do know they just unveiled the 1080-mini, so they wouldn't want to lower any hype for it by confirming a 1080-Ti-Mini this soon.
That does work. I have my primary screen connected through HDMI to my GTX 560 Ti and my secondary screen connected through DVI to the same graphics card.
any help here? Why there are two response time?
how to make sure i am using the low one.
at 3200MHz, yes, in SOME cases.
Lets remember that Kaby Lake z270 mobo's, some have DDR4 slots that are rated past 4200MHz, so if they used RAM that was rated higher, they might be able to get it stable at a higher clock speed than on Skylake CPUs/Mobo's...
Once I can put together my Z270 build with my 4000MHz Cosriar LPX RAM and my 7700K, I'll test it out and post results. Here's hoping I can at least get past 3600MHz, it'd be a novelty and just extra points if I can manage 4000MHz stable or close to it, since there's diminishing returns after 3200.
ASUS Just updated the Z270i STRIX (Mini-ITX) Landing page: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-Z270I-Gaming/overview/
This confirms the USB-3.0Type C support, the USB 3.1 front-panel header, and the dual M.2 PCIE slots (one on rear & one on front of motherboard):
They may run without CPU OC though.
A memory only OC is easy. Plus timings are a factor.
My own Z170i is rated 4000mhz.
finalflame
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7700k just showed up in the mail a few minutes ago
How?
Celcius
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Lactose_Intolerant
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If you back off the timings, you can do most any speed.
finalflame
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Amazon same day delivery
Could you link me the product page? Searching doesn't produce any results
Celcius
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Could you link me the product page? Searching doesn't produce any results
Sure, here's the link:
They seem to have taken it down though?
finalflame
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Yup, guess I didn't see it in time :/ This goes back to what I saw earlier this month, which was Fry's.com had the 7700K on sale and "Pick up on 1/4", but all reports say Intel is letting these loose in late January. I'd consider myself extremely lucky for getting one, at this point seems like it was most likely a mistake
Cuban Legend
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HOKY CRAP. Wow that was a fast takedown. Maybe they had limited stock?
finalflame
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Absolutely nobody else is selling them and Intel themselves said the release date was later in January, so it seems more like a mistake than limited stock.
drhankmccoyphd
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Does it matter which SLI bridge one can buy or will any do? Looks like official nvidia ones are 30-40 but there are non branded ones for like $10.
Celcius
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Are you using GTX 10 series cards? If so, personally I'd get the nvidia high-bandwidth SLI bridge: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3087...ayoff-in-buying-nvidias-40-sli-hb-bridge.html
Did they ship yours?
No difference, it's simply a ribbon cable.
Erebus
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For someone building a gaming PC within the next 2 months, is there any particular reason to go with the Kaby Lake platform over the current Skylake? Most reviews claim that the performance is exactly identical but still does it make any sense to prefer Kaby Lake and the new Z210 chipset for better future-proofing?
Go for kabylake unless it's costing a lot more than skylake.
lostsupper
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Instructions per clock are identical, but clock speed improvements are significant.
lostsupper
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VCCIO and VCCSA at or below 1.2v won't affect temps significantly. Unless his RAM and mobo are just really crap, running his RAM at its advertised XMP spec should not be an issue.
Jeff Stephen
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Amazon same day delivery
How much did it set you back?
Celcius
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Just ordered a new mobo and ram as well
Now I just need the Samsung 960 Pro to be in stock somewhere @_@
$350
Now I just need the Samsung 960 Pro to be in stock somewhere @_@
$350
PRBoricua
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($235.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.66 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420G 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor
Total: $1722.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-04 19:08 EST-0500
This is my current PC as it's assembled today. With the new year, I have a couple of pesos to throw around and I was wondering where I could make an upgrade or two? I could grab two more sticks of RAM, but I'm not sure how much improvement I'd see out of doing that.
Would a GTX 1080 bump this thing up a bit? Would my CPU bottleneck it? Is SLI still a thing? I feel like SLI is slowly being abandoned, should I make the switch to a single GPU? So help me out fellas, where do I go from here without building a completely new rig?
Sorry for all the questions! Any help would be appreciated.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($235.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.66 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420G 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor
Total: $1722.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-04 19:08 EST-0500
This is my current PC as it's assembled today. With the new year, I have a couple of pesos to throw around and I was wondering where I could make an upgrade or two? I could grab two more sticks of RAM, but I'm not sure how much improvement I'd see out of doing that.
Would a GTX 1080 bump this thing up a bit? Would my CPU bottleneck it? Is SLI still a thing? I feel like SLI is slowly being abandoned, should I make the switch to a single GPU? So help me out fellas, where do I go from here without building a completely new rig?
Sorry for all the questions! Any help would be appreciated.
Flying Toaster
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I would go with the GTX1080. Card is pure awesome.
Jealous of the accidentally shipped Intel chil.
Jealous of the accidentally shipped Intel chil.
In today's news of trying to fix my cooling issue with my new built.
It's a shitty pic quality but I believe I bent the pins when I removed the cpu to clean off the thermal and putting the cooler back on again.
The ASRock Z170 Extreme7+ mobo, which is the picture in question, was throwing me a "Dr.Debug" code on the board, 55. "The memory could not be detected. Please re-install the memory and CPU. If the problem still exist, please install only one memory module or other memory modules."
I had taken out the cooler and CPU, which was the only parts I had touched when I saw that irregularity that I took a picture of. Re-seated the CPU, put back the cooler, same code again.
It's a shitty pic quality but I believe I bent the pins when I removed the cpu to clean off the thermal and putting the cooler back on again.
The ASRock Z170 Extreme7+ mobo, which is the picture in question, was throwing me a "Dr.Debug" code on the board, 55. "The memory could not be detected. Please re-install the memory and CPU. If the problem still exist, please install only one memory module or other memory modules."
I had taken out the cooler and CPU, which was the only parts I had touched when I saw that irregularity that I took a picture of. Re-seated the CPU, put back the cooler, same code again.
Son flipped the power off on his surge protector with his foot and now his computer won't fire up. Power on the computer case shows it's on and fans are running but the keyboard that usually lights up doesn't and there is no signal to the monitors. The light where the Ethernet cord hooks into the motherboard comes on.
Any thoughts on what the culprit is? There is 2 sticks of 4 gb RAM and a 970 video card hooked into the mobo.
Any thoughts on what the culprit is? There is 2 sticks of 4 gb RAM and a 970 video card hooked into the mobo.
Cuban Legend
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When I go to check my order status it says it's shipping now and that it should arrive Saturday before 8 PM so we will see and I will update this thread if anything changes
Bloodember
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12ms, 4ms (GTG)
The 12ms is the response time black white black and the 4ms is the response time grey to grey, I believe.
OriginofHysteria
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Got this guy today, couldn't pass this up for 430 from Amazon.
What a beauty this card is
What a beauty this card is
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