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[Ainem Enamas]

Base interest in games, and actually playing somewhat frequently. E3 is no more, waiting physically outside for new console is not like in the PS2 timeframe. The landscape is different than it was from the beginning to like maybe 2010. We are much older now, and new gamers mostly are Fortnite and mobile gamers...

But the thought of not only playing stuff but to follow the events in the industry. Be excited with other gamers upon new releases, announcements...either be hyped in real person or maybe on here.

What do you think of this. How much it's different than it was, up until maybe 2010? What do you think of not only playing games but to be hyped together, discuss games and so on?

 

[IFireflyl]

We have more information at our fingertips than we ever have in history. This includes rumors, leaks, and official announcements. There is an incredible amount to follow regarding the gaming industry, although this is done more from a computer than via physical media (such as gaming magazines) or in-person events. But I vehemently disagree with your take that gaming (or being a gamer) is about more than just playing games. That's the lynchpin of the definition.

 

[The Cockatrice]

The only difference for me is that I used to play more online games than anything else compared to now where I play singleplayer only and some coop stuff with friends that isnt pvp. I'm also way more critical than I used to be, but that may have to do with age and/or the writing/quality in games dropping over the years. Some people got used to the latter and are more accepting, I couldn't. Getting hyped for games is long gone as nowadays they're more products catered to selling, than products made with love. Games are made not with smiles, but by a depressed individual with limited time, limited salary, never knowing when he will be fired. You can imagine how that product ends up. There are some unique cases, smaller teams such as Clair Obscur dev team where they separated themselves from the overlords and made something with love, but that is a needle in a haystack.

 

[Humdinger]

I probably don't fit the definition of "gamer" you're offering. I don't play that often, maybe a few hours a week on average. Haven't played for a couple weeks now, haven't felt the desire. Other things are taking precedence.

If being a gamer means being hyped about releases and announcements, then I'm not a gamer by that criterion, either. When's the last time I was genuinely hyped? Years ago, can't even remember. The most I could say is that occasionally my interest is piqued. But hyped, no.

I don't really want to identify as a "gamer," anyway. I mean, I wouldn't say "I'm a gamer" in public.

 

[Aion002]

For me nothing changed.

I just like playing video games, posting my terrible opinions and getting hyped for whatever gaming related stuff that entertains me.

 

[Parazels]

Gaming now is better than ever. This is what I know.

 

[Ainem Enamas]

The only difference for me is that I used to play more online games than anything else compared to now where I play singleplayer only and some coop stuff with friends that isnt pvp. I'm also way more critical than I used to be, but that may have to do with age and/or the writing/quality in games dropping over the years. Some people got used to the latter and are more accepting, I couldn't. Getting hyped for games is long gone as nowadays they're more products catered to selling, than products made with love. Games are made not with smiles, but by a depressed individual with limited time, limited salary, never knowing when he will be fired. You can imagine how that product ends up. There are some unique cases, smaller teams such as Clair Obscur dev team where they separated themselves from the overlords and made something with love, but that is a needle in a haystack.

I'm playing Inside and it's full of soulful dev-hype, and interest in what they are doing
How old are you? In 40s?

 

[Ainem Enamas]

I probably don't fit the definition of "gamer" you're offering. I don't play that often, maybe a few hours a week on average. Haven't played for a couple weeks now, haven't felt the desire. Other things are taking precedence.

If being a gamer means being hyped about releases and announcements, then I'm not a gamer by that criterion, either. When's the last time I was genuinely hyped? Years ago, can't even remember. The most I could say is that occasionally my interest is piqued. But hyped, no.

I don't really want to identify as a "gamer," anyway. I mean, I wouldn't say "I'm a gamer" in public.

...but you post here and talk about games, it's still something

 

[The Cockatrice]

How old are you? In 40s?

Almost 40 soon yeah. I do sometimes miss playing pvp like League, WoW, Cod, but then I remember cheaters, grifters, and my limited time and then I say fk dat.

 

[Ainem Enamas]

Almost 40 soon yeah. I do sometimes miss playing pvp like League, WoW, Cod, but then I remember cheaters, grifters, and my limited time and then I say fk dat.

I've always noticed you here, actually all of you. This is the place for me, it doesn't matter what time it is - the hype for games is always here

 

[Liopleurodon]

My only problem with gaming in general is when I see bunch of laughing smilies every time Xbox, Phil Spencer, and Neil Druckmann, and some of his games are mentioned.

 

[touchfuzzy]

Play regularly and connected with the news / announcements / online discussions is probably the base of it.

I think an important part is that games mean something to you as well. A lot of people think of 'gamers' and they just imagine sweats playing Call of Duty or anti-social people sucked in to World of Warcraft, but gaming to me is way more than that. It's about experiences and joy and seeing technology and art come together to provide something totally unique. Like any entertainment industry that grows very large, it faces the problem of the corporations just wanting to utilize it to make as much money as possible, but there's still limitless potential and new experiences always coming out.

There was an interesting quote I saw a bit ago that like, video games is the only creative industry where one person in their bedroom can make something they're passionate about and sell 10 million copies, and that's what will keep the creativity alive no matter what.

 

[Ainem Enamas]

Play regularly and connected with the news / announcements / online discussions is probably the base of it.

I think an important part is that games mean something to you as well. A lot of people think of 'gamers' and they just imagine sweats playing Call of Duty or anti-social people sucked in to World of Warcraft, but gaming to me is way more than that. It's about experiences and joy and seeing technology and art come together to provide something totally unique. Like any entertainment industry that grows very large, it faces the problem of the corporations just wanting to utilize it to make as much money as possible, but there's still limitless potential and new experiences always coming out.

There was an interesting quote I saw a bit ago that like, video games is the only creative industry where one person in their bedroom can make something they're passionate about and sell 10 million copies, and that's what will keep the creativity alive no matter what.

This is why I created this thread
Very thoughtful

 

[The Devil's Grocers]

Play regularly and connected with the news / announcements / online discussions is probably the base of it.

I think an important part is that games mean something to you as well. A lot of people think of 'gamers' and they just imagine sweats playing Call of Duty or anti-social people sucked in to World of Warcraft, but gaming to me is way more than that. It's about experiences and joy and seeing technology and art come together to provide something totally unique. Like any entertainment industry that grows very large, it faces the problem of the corporations just wanting to utilize it to make as much money as possible, but there's still limitless potential and new experiences always coming out.

There was an interesting quote I saw a bit ago that like, video games is the only creative industry where one person in their bedroom can make something they're passionate about and sell 10 million copies, and that's what will keep the creativity alive no matter what.

I mean, books? A person can write a book in their bedroom and reach 10 million people. Or some guy alone in his room can make a youtube video, or a short film, or a long film, or an invention, or a painting, and on and on and on. Saying videogames are the only medium you can do that in is just plain shortsighted

 

[touchfuzzy]

I mean, books? A person can write a book in their bedroom and reach 10 million people. Or some guy alone in his room can make a youtube video, or a short film, or a long film, or an invention, or a painting, and on and on and on. Saying videogames are the only medium you can do that in is just plain shortsighted

Eh, there's a lot of "what about's?" to the quote but you see where they're coming from. Like sure you can write a book by yourself, how would it logistically sell ten million copies without a publisher, manufacturing, distribution, etc.? Same as a painting, or a film. Maybe your Youtube video will get ten million views if it goes viral but good luck actually making any money off of that or expanding on your idea without other people.

But in games it can just be you, alone, start to finish and upload to Steam and if it's a hit, it's all yours. We've seen lots of examples of this happening, it happens multiple times a year even.

 

[The Devil's Grocers]

Eh, there's a lot of "what about's?" to the quote but you see where they're coming from. Like sure you can write a book by yourself, how would it logistically sell ten million copies without a publisher, manufacturing, distribution, etc.? Same as a painting, or a film. Maybe your Youtube video will get ten million views if it goes viral but good luck actually making any money off of that or expanding on your idea without other people.

But in games it can just be you, alone, start to finish and upload to Steam and if it's a hit, it's all yours. We've seen lots of examples of this happening, it happens multiple times a year even.

I could likewise upload my screenplay to the Blacklist and it's available to option just like a game on Steam would be. If you're relying on Steam to do all the heavy lifting for you how is it any different than my mailing a manuscript to a publishing house and them buying it from me? Even on Steam there's a review process and your game can get rejected. I think any time someone speaks in absolutes like "x is the only place where you can do y" it's just a failure of imagination

 

[Zacfoldor]

If you only like to watch games you may be a gamer's girlfriend though. Just not a gamer.

You can lose your love for gaming. If you do, and you quit, you are not a gamer. If you do and force yourself to keep playing until you like it again you can claim it.

People who do not play or enjoy games are not gamers. I don't give a shit how much you know about the industry Jim Ryan.

 

[kiphalfton]

Most games have become too dumbed down or easy.

Don't even need strategy guides or walkthrough guides anymore.

There are obviously games that are more so aimed at people who aren't braindead, but it's becoming less and less as time goes on.

 

[Loomy]

But the thought of not only playing stuff but to follow the events in the industry. Be excited with other gamers upon new releases, announcements...either be hyped in real person or maybe on here.

The amount of people who do this is tiny compared to the overall number of people who buy and play games. Most people aren't in forums, watching entire hour long showcase, talking about the latest game controversy, etc.

 

[nemiroff]

Most games have become too dumbed down or easy.

Don't even need strategy guides or walkthrough guides anymore.

There are obviously games that are more so aimed at people who aren't braindead, but it's becoming less and less as time goes on.

You seem to have forgotten that games used to have built in cheat codes. It was a staple of gaming for decades

I also remember being stuck in point and click adventure games was no fun at all...

 

[Humdinger]

...but you post here and talk about games, it's still something

Yeah, but you seemed to be asking for a level of gaming and enthusiasm I just don't have. So not a "gamer" by those standards. Or a "real gamer," as people sometimes say.

Which is fine with me, btw. I've always considered myself a filthy casual, and I embrace that.

 

[Ainem Enamas]

The amount of people who do this is tiny compared to the overall number of people who buy and play games. Most people aren't in forums, watching entire hour long showcase, talking about the latest game controversy, etc.

Yea, but we here do that, and it's dear to me

 

[Aces High]

I think a key problem is that a lot of people lose their skill to fantasize when growing older.

Children, and to a lesser extend young adults, can immerseve themselves more easily. As a kid I played the fucking Rugrats game for hours on PS1 and it was like leaving reality.

Adults tend to dissect everything into rational bs. The gamers of the 90s grew older and now they approach every game with their tier lists and meta crap. Everyone has read the guide before doing their first try on the first boss.

People don't "play" anymore.

 

[Danjin44]

For me my love for gaming hasn't really changed and still having fun as much as when I was a kid.

It just these days it harder to get surprised because everthing gets leaked.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Base interest in games, and actually playing somewhat frequently. E3 is no more, waiting physically outside for new console is not like in the PS2 timeframe. The landscape is different than it was from the beginning to like maybe 2010. We are much older now, and new gamers mostly are Fortnite and mobile gamers...

But the thought of not only playing stuff but to follow the events in the industry. Be excited with other gamers upon new releases, announcements...either be hyped in real person or maybe on here.

What do you think of this. How much it's different than it was, up until maybe 2010? What do you think of not only playing games but to be hyped together, discuss games and so on?

Was more fun back then.

Generations happened quicker. And more games coming out. MORe variety. MOre new stuff.

Now it's boring in comparison. How much is age? How much is industry stagnation?

Also the games kids like today like fortnite and mobile are more insidious. They are selling you little digital packets of junk every ~3 months. In exchange for not having to buy the game in the first place I guess. But it's very time wasting digital junk food level content.