Blazing Sword
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IGN: 7.8
1UP: 5.5
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IGN gives Sudeki a...(also 1up score)
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Blazing Sword
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drohne said:
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Kobun Heat
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Good to see I don't exactly have egg on my face over this one.
Date of Lies
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belgurdo said:
IGN gave Symphonia 8.5 while all you gag about is the "bad" art and "bad" storyline while chances are Sudeki has worse art and a worse storyline, actually no chances on the worse art. Despite all that you're willing to give Sudeki the benefit of the doubt over Symphonia.
Maybe 1up is japanophile, but no more than Climax, leave japanese RPGs and (most of all) art to the Japanese. Or if you are going to go japanese, then be honest about it and hire japanese artists, american games with real japanese art direction DO EXIST.
A bad storyline with bad character developement and even worst character design is a sign of a strickly profit-seeking product with no real artistic vision.
Date of Lies said:
All Climax really needed to do was to make the character models faithful to the design sheets, and keep the character designer who did the initial model sheets (Niki Broughton) on for the duration of the project rather than cutting her loose. The dubious tweaks made to the character art, plus what looks like some really awkward animation (judging by the characters' poses in the stills I've seen) are what hurt Sudeki most from a visual standpoint.
Date of Lies
Banned
If MS had hired Level 5, the story would have probably been worse.
Kuroyume said:Looks like Belgurdo loses after all these months of Sudeki support... ah it feels so good
Oh please. If Sudeki was a title you wanted to see succeed, you and half the other people here would be up in arms over the 'unfair' score regardless of the game's actual quality. The thread would be full of posts calling the reviewer a hack, half-baked theories about 'platform hate' that led to the low score, and any other excuse you can think of to disregard the reviews.
Either you accept all reviews as meaningful, or you don't. You can't pick and choose, holding up the ones that support the games you like as 'fact' and discounting the ones that don't.
Kobun Heat
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Tellaerin said:
Not that Nich Maragos, in particular, would be at all worried about that.
seismologist
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damn how could it be that bad? Aside from the art, The game actually looked pretty good.
hey buddy, if you can stomach playing through sudeki, you're a better man than i.
godspeed, and more power to you.
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Kobun Heat said:
Touche. Though truth to tell, I didn't specifically name him in the thread in question because I don't know whether I ought to consider him a rabid Square fanboy, not having read enough of his other material to judge. On the other hand, the complaint about people stretching to draw labored parallels between the two games just so they can argue that one was a ripoff of the other does apply in his case regardless. (And for what it's worth, Nich Maragos wasn't foremost in my mind when I posted that in the first place. It was more a matter of wading through a sea of messageboard posts like,
'OMG! DART AND SHANA ARE JUST LIKE CLOUD AND AERIS! SONY IS TEH RIPOFF!!!11one'
That said, this is a Sudeki thread, not an LoD one, so I'm going to try not to derail it any further than I already have. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to PM me.
Kobun Heat
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Oh, I was just pointing it out. I never played LoD but I remember the controversy.Tellaerin said:
JackFrost2012
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Kobun Heat said:
That's like eating dessert first.
Suikoguy said:
Oh, but it is. I even kept the scan that came from OldGAF for posterity. It was just such perfectly distilled egomania and self-love, and if I ever needed hard evidence that Microsoft came into the console race cock firmly in hand and waving it around, this was it.
KyotoMecca
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Fable is the RPG the Xbox crew will really be wanting this year.
MassiveAttack
Banned
Something is rotten in Redmond when TFLO gets canned in favor of a UK developer that had never developed an RPG and required 4 years and a team of over 100 to get this done.
MassiveAttack said:
Well, to be fair, TFLO was an MMORPG, a much larger, and completely different beast than something like Sudeki or, hell, any given Final Fantasy outside of XI. But you're right, they should've just commissioned a standard-issue RPG from Level 5. That said, it also needs to be pointed out that especially in the beginning of the Xbox's life, Microsoft was being beyond unrealistic about the Japanese market: from how they approached it, dealt with the people inside of it, and in their projections of what to expect.
BeOnEdge said:
They labeled it "Decent" and call it "half-baked", what do you think?
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
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Remember how most of today's Japanese pop culture originated: as an imitation of Western pop culture. The right to bastardize other cultures' trashy artifacts is a fundamental human right.