Sorry Clarky but GT7 has a Metacritic score of 87% which is only slightly better than the last couple of mainline Forza games. Meanwhile the last three Horizon games are 90% plus.
In this particular gen, they had a mountain to climb and barely went up two steps before crashing to ground again.true. Though, xbox didn't have much to change the narrative.
I still maintain that Infinite delay just destroyed the Xbox before it even had a chance.
If only they got infinite out feature complete, with a campaign that delivered at the launch of the series consoles. I think xbox would be in a much better place right now.
Clarky, you may personally not rate the FPS and racing offerings on Xbox but that doesn't mean they don't have a distinct advantage in those genres.
Clarky, that's your personal opinion and Metacritic doesn't really back you up. But I think it would be fair to say that MS have clearly mishandled the Forza Motorsport franchise as well.
No Infinite at launch definitely was a huge blow.
Im not sure on the BC capabilities of playstation but they have loads of FPS titles in their back catalogue if you want to champion retro games.
I'd say Ubisoft has quietly made a nice bundle of cash from selling
You can't play PS1/2/3 games on PS4/5. There is a lot of love in the Sony fandom for Killzone and Resistance but those titles weren't competitive with Halo.
Horizon would do quite well im sure, its the most polished thing Xbox have been able to put out in years.
They're talking about these specific titles because they want to see Xbox fans experience pure hurt.
Not super familiar with how the series evolved because 5 was my first (bought 4 on Steam too to take advantage of the huge pre-delisting discount but didn't get to it yet), but it's incredibly polished.
Halo would be a monster if they made a great one
All the Horizon games are largely the same but with a different setting.
I dunno, the ttk and slow ass gameplay doesn't fly these days. See Concord.
Yet it's always at the top of the Xbox ports wishlist for Sony fans.
Clarky, I think you slightly underestimate how many Sony lifers there are among the ranks here.
The topic of Xbox ports on PS5 has been discussed regularly enough where this picture has become very clear.
It's been like this since the PS4/Xbox One. The games are getting too big, expensive and time consuming to make. From 3/4 years development to 6 or more. As a result, big studios are playing it incredibly safe by chasing market trends and remakes/remasters of popular franchises only. Those that can't handle it are being bought, cutting down or collapsing. This is also why we didn't see that many games flourish like we have in the past. During the PS2 and 360 gens, we had entire franchise born and finish, but due to game dev taking so long now, that's not possible.
I have been. I watch a Silent Hill 2 walkthrough on the YouTube app and hit random buttons on the Xbox controller intermittently. It's not dissimilar to how it feels playing most games now, really.
Clarky, these are hardcore Sony fans we're talking about. At most they will have sat on a couch while other people played Halo and droned on about how revolutionary the Cell processor was.
Me too. I thought Xbox would be stronger this gen, not weaker.
I only have a switch and I'm thinking about get an Xbox. I only owned a PlayStation briefly for for FFVll many many years ago. I would quit gaming before owning another Sony console.
Halo isn't dead, it's just resting.
LOL nope. I don't think there is a single "Sony fan" who gives an actual shit about "Xbox exclusive" properties which are all on PC anyways and don't exactly burn up the sales charts there either
3 hardware releases and 3 exclusive games and now months of nothing? If that impressives you, they should just jiggle some keys on the next state of play.
You know how it goes, if Xbox is sucking, the industry is as well. That's straight from Microsoft's PR playbook. Hopium at it's finest.
Not at all. Sony have done well this gen, but I don't think either have been amazing due to the wider issues in the triple A space. Also if we're leaning into the fan boy mentality, the guy literally has a Colin Moriarty avatar.
I don't know what you're on, but it's been a great year for releases on Playstation. First, second, or third-party.
I never said they were bad.
thats fair criticism. And its definitely justified. Their efforts to turn things around have been long winded and inexcusably long but i rather it be a case of a long time coming than a never happened at all. I believe they will turn things around. I almost equate it to a baseball teams farm system being inadequate and through good drafts and years of good player development it starts to bear fruit but it takes quite some time. I think they had major foundational issues that had to be ironed out and its at this point taking two generations worth of time to turn it around so i understand the frustration but i think they’ve learned their lesson in terms of having exclusive experiences to pull people into their ecosystem while also strategically being multiplatform on older titles that need engagement spikes or titles that serve the company better being available on different platforms like an Indiana Jones that is better served being treated like a new ip and finding a broader audience. Cant forget how big some of these investments theyve made are which shows me commitment and not a half hearted approach. They now have an insane stable of first party studios and i cant imagine them not going all in on next gen with those things in mind. Also think latter half of this gen will be great. Fable Gears E Day Perfect Dark Avowed Clockwork etc. And the Halo switching to Ue5 today is great news too. Im optimistic as an Xbox fan. Truly.
Ok...i'm gonna need a lengthy analysis on Playstation currently cause one paragraph with you saying "3 games and months of nothing plus state of play sucks" doesn't even begin to describe what's happening:
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mentioned can't be played on an Xbox. That's what counts in the end.
Yes. Xbox have shown a load of games coming out and I've said they look likely to end the gen strong.
Again, I didn't say they were doing bad. I said they've been coasting at times and I think that's fair.Halo hasn't been relevant since...what year exactly? The fact you need to bring up a remastered collection from that IP from the good ol' days says everything, which is interesting since people keep complaining that Sony releases remasters and remakes but apparently for this one IP it's okay. And Forza Motorstorm may have an 87 on metacritic but the market didn't move when it released, no one cared and it's an irrelevant IP right now. Meanwhile Gran Turismo 7 keeps showing up on sales charts, almost 3 years after release and it's probably well past the 10M copies sold at this point. Another Xbox fumble. Just 10 years ago that IP was A LOT more relevant than GT.
I'll give you Forza Horizon though.
Ok...i'm gonna need a lengthy analysis on Playstation currently cause one paragraph with you saying "3 games and months of nothing plus state of play sucks" doesn't even begin to describe what's happening:
3 exclusive games? Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, FFVII Rebirth, Astrobot are 4 exclusive AAA games, not 3. 2 of them are new IPs and Astrobot just got its first full game that's not a VR title. I don't remember Xbox having 2 exclusive games being GOTY contenders and the top 2 games on metacritic in a year like PS5 does this year.
Helldivers 2 is literally a Sony IP and one of the biggest hits of the year in the entire market. Also console exclusive. Silent Hill 2 was just really well received as well. Another console exclusive. Everything
And i don't get what's the problem with releasing 3 pieces of hardware? PS5 slim is just a revision like Sony has done since the PSOne days. PS Portal is a piece of hardware that far surpassed Sony's expectations and the Pro, too soon to tell. Sounds like they are reading the market right? Remember everyone laughing at Dual Sense Edge? It's constantly one of the best selling accessories every month.
Playstation is excelling in hardware, exclusive games, financing new IPs, releasing sequels, remasters, remakes, small and big projects. They have marketing rights for all the big IPs (Fortnite, GTA, Fifa, etc) and until recently also had for COD which they now don't have because MS had to buy the entire publisher (or was it Activision that swallowed Xbox? Hard to tell).
About "months of nothing" from Sony...Astrobot just released a month ago, Silent Hill 2 is about to release, Until Dawn remake is also releasing soon, plus there's still Lego Horizon coming up. We already know next year will have Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Tsushima's sequel. And this is what was announced so far. GTAVI, the biggest game release of probably all time is about to happen when PS5 is hitting PS3's lifetime sales late 2025 / early 2026 as well and i'm sure a marketing deal is gonna happen like always with GTA.
Hell even something like Palworld releases without a PS5 version, is a hit on Xbox and Sony jumps right behind and not only managed to have the game running on PS5 during that same year, they will also expand the IP to something bigger than only that game. That's how fast they operate. Xbox failed to even secure that. In a few years people will relate that IP to Sony and not Xbox. Another one. Meanwhile Xbox keeps missing surprise hits. Last year with Baldur's Gate 3, this year with Black Myth Wukong. But hey...Genshin Impact is hitting Xbox 5 years after release right?
With Sony, "months of nothing" is never a thing...at least for more than 6 months but no publisher releases games monthly, not in 2024.
Meanwhile, even after absorbing Activision, Blizzard and Beshesda, MS can go on more than a year without releasing a single game that makes the market move. That's what a mess they are in 2024. Like...Starfield came and went, Forza Motorstorm was mocked online, compared to cross-gen Gran Turismo 7 and failing to match it even though it was "built from the ground up" the the new gen, Halo Infinite...i won't even mention it even with a year (!!!) delay, Red Fall...who remembers that? What do they have? Oh right...that tech demo, Hellblade II. And...what else? COD, a well oiled machine since before they were acquired making the big bucks i guess.
Gamepass ruined Xbox forever with the "you don't have to buy games" mindset. It ruined them so much they are now releasing all of their stuff on PS5. Literally on one of their latest conferences, their big "one more thing" moment was to announce the PS5 version of Indiana Jones lol.
From all the big 3, Sony was by far the busiest one this year. It's not even close. They will have half of the GOTY contenders for themselves, meanwhile MS can't even score a win in those categories for their entire run as console makers for the past...20 years maybe? When was the last time? Halo 3? They are always non-existent at the Game Awards for that reason.
How can you look at everything Sony released, developed, financed in 2024 and say it's "months of nothing" while trying to put them at the same level as Xbox is...interesting.
Xbox problems aren't Sony's problems. Yes Concord happened, but that doesn't take away every great thing that released this year on PS5.
