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Jim Ryan ‘feels bad’ Sony won’t be able meet PS5 demand for ‘some time’ yet
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MasterCornholio
Member
It's a strange kind a paradox. Fastest to reach 10 million because they were the only company to ever ship 10 million consoles this fast, despite console shortages
I don't see how that isn't possible. I honestly believe they are telling the truth.
GHG
Gold Member
It's a strange kind a paradox. Fastest to reach 10 million because they were the only company to ever ship 10 million consoles this fast, despite console shortages
Demand for computing hardware is higher than it's ever been.
If there is to be a second wave of lockdowns the demand will surge even more.
Unknown?
Member
PS4 and Xbox One are old and people knew their successors were coming soon. Plus PS4 is STILL $299 and hasn't come down in price at all for years.
Captain Toad
Banned
The denial is strong with this one.
PS5 would sell 10 million more next month if the stock was magically there.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You people are sick!
Saint Boot
Banned
I don't like scalpers, so I'm the sick one? ok then...
Saint Boot
Banned
Not this gamer. I never buy from Scalpers, not that it matters.
Javthusiast
Banned
Why can't these online stores put in measures so cumbersome even bots can't navigate them?
I don't fully understand his statement.
They've sold more PS'S than comparative to PS4's in the same amount of time. Furthermore even older PS5 games take a 200% or whatever jump in sales once they get new stock in customers hands. The thing is selling.
This all just sounds like fluff comments justify PS4 cross releases/development.
They've sold more PS'S than comparative to PS4's in the same amount of time. Furthermore even older PS5 games take a 200% or whatever jump in sales once they get new stock in customers hands. The thing is selling.
This all just sounds like fluff comments justify PS4 cross releases/development.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
Does anyone remember the Nintendo Switch launch shortage? I remember it was some time before you were able to walk into a Walmart or GameStop and grab one off the shelf...and that was 2017.
rickybooby87
Member
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
"“We know that it’s still difficult for gamers to get PS5, and we’re very sorry about that,” he responded."
Not difficult for the scalpers apparently!
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No you're sick because you actually believe Sony sold alot of PS5s to scalpers. We know for a fact that this isn't true.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I feel bad how much money we are missing out on
NickFire
Member
They could have easily sold 20 - 30 million by now if they were available. Long wait between generations, brand loyalty, increased amount of people playing every year, lockdowns, and above all else, the US government essentially paying for them in the US with stimulus money = 30 million sales with ease.
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Derktron
Banned
Same thing with my Series X. Only thing i wanted the PS5 over the Series X
Saint Boot
Banned
No, that's not what I said at all, and you are making yourself look foolish for suggesting it. At no point did I state that Sony specifically sold units to Scalpers, but that Scalpers with their bots snatched many of them up from official retailers. Retailers are not intentionally selling them to scalpers, but scalpers are getting them anyway and then turning around and selling them for 700-1000 dollars. A friend of mine bought 2 and sold them each for 800 dollars. I told him how I feel about that, but it's money for him because idiots out there will do it instead of being patient.
Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
no problem jim. i've decided i don't want your console anymore. alright, maybe in 2-3 years i might get one if there's more than 1 game i want to play. always owned a Playstation but PS5 is a huge disappointment with no reason to buy (except maybe to play my PS4 games lol). as soon as i can get a Series X i'm good
maybe in the USA but not here.
don't remember that at all. it's always been easy to get hold of a switch. well, the end of 2020 i did notice a bit of a shortage but seems back to normal now.
maybe in the USA but not here.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No in America the Switch was almost impossible to buy for months.
Marty-McFly
Banned
If this is true, Sony is being sent back majorly for PS5's lifetime sales.
There won't come another opportunity like this.
The alleged chip shortage will end in 2023, when the Covid effect will essentially be over.
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Fare thee well
Neophyte
It's true, morons are easily parted with their money.
ethomaz
Banned
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There is very little consoles in scalpers hands... to be fair near none... because they already sold it or try to sell as fast as possible to gamers.
A unit scalped today got sold tomorrow.
If scalpers get to hold console then it is time to stop scalping at all.... scalper doesn't work if there are not selling them fast.
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BennyBlanco
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SkylineRKR
Member
Imagine yourself, scalping a lot of Wii U's from all of your savings.
Yeah. Should've done bitcoin back in those days.
Yeah. Should've done bitcoin back in those days.
Portugeezer
Member
What do you think the scalpers do with their PS5's? Just keep them in the basement?
AlexxKidd
Member
doubt so...this is just a CEO chest thumping and hyping
My guess without the shortages, maybe 11-12m instead of 10m. The usual inflationary increase.
console demand afaics are not on some super scale upswing. There is no indications of that i see around me.
Marty-McFly
Banned
I just read 25% of PS5 consoles have never been used once
The attach rate for software is also very low.
What's going on?
The attach rate for software is also very low.
What's going on?
Derktron
Banned
Derktron
Banned
That is because 24% of those consoles are collecting dust because of the scalpers who have them and charge $1000 for a fucking PS5. I would not even pay a damn iPhone and I have the iPhone 12 Pro Max
MasterCornholio
Member
You're probably just imagining things. Don't worry the PS5 is doing extremely well.
Marty-McFly
Banned
I'm really not sure what your response even means. PS5 is obviously going to do great, but the low attach rate and user activity probably points to an obscene amount of panhandling and scalping.
Unknown?
Member
Nope.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. The goodthing is that I missed a lot of PS4 games so that's what I'm using it for because at sold my PS4.
I don't really know what some people are talking about PS5 having the greatest lineup ever. To this day there's only + PS5 game that might be worth getting, Ratchet. All the other games are crossgen, remakes or indies. After 9 months there's only one game, I don't remember anything like it. And if you look at xbox is even worse, they don't have a single game lmaoooo.
Yselacrey00
Banned
There are no games man. I bought into the hype, I'd never bought a console at launch before. This is my first and last time, this things has just 1, one proper game, ratchet. And that came just a month ago. There's nothing else to play and I guarantee you everyone plays ps4 games or just don't use it at all.
MasterCornholio
Member
I mean I don't think it means there's a serious issue with the system. The demand is absolutely crazy right now which is why we are having issues with scalping. It doesn't necessarily indicate a poor performance of the system which is what I thought you were trying to say.
Unknown?
Member
No wonder your previous post says what it does, you've never bought a launch console. People are saying it's good because it blows away what was available on PS1-4 at launch. Being cross gen doesn't matter because previous gens wouldn't even have cross gen games thus nothing to play.
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RayHell
Member
Scalpers aren't creating demand, they just capitalize on it. Meaning without scalpers the demand would be the same and it would still be OOS.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Lol, what are you talking about? PS4 had kill zone at launch, that would be the equivalent of ratchet. It also had a lot of crossgen games obviously proper PS4 versions not like the PS5 where you are just aging PS4 versions in BC mode
www.gamesradar.com/amp/how-do-the-ps5-launch-titles-compare-to-ps4-ps3-ps2-and-playstation/
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yurinka
Member
Both that quote of 25% PS5 never been used and attach rate being low are lies. That 25% can be people who never played Astro or weren't connected to Internet (if their numbers are correct, may not be the case).
We know PS4 has over 80M monthly active users, and saw several games selling more in PS4 even if it had under 10M units sold, so we know people are buying a lot of games there. One of them was Morales (the only exclusive with potential great sales released since launch), which at the end of the year had an attachment rate of around 50%. And this is on PlayStation, where thanks to having a way bigger library of great games their sales are less focused of a few games, specially when the at least the biggest selling multiplatform games that we know their (or their company's) hardware user split share, all of them have PS as the platform with the biggest amount of players.
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