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Interesting but inconclusive without taking into account the firing rates and accuracy.

Especially for the shotgun analysis, I would have expected a bit more disclosure of results instead of "it's all over the place". What does that mean? If they fired ten shots at x distance, I want to know how many did damage and how many didn't. It seems to me they could have that information but toss it to the side as irrelevant, which it really isn't.

Same for assault rifle vs assault rifle and magnum vs sniper rifle. If you don't factor in firing rates and accuracy at all, you can only reach wrong conclusions.

 

[lunlunqq]

I just love my Pew Pew rifle (Sta-14). It's just so accurate the damage output is consistent. I know when my crosshair turns red and I go "Pew!" "Pew!", I will hear the chirp for sure.

 

[commish]

Interesting but inconclusive without taking into account the firing rates and accuracy.

Especially for the shotgun analysis, I would have expected a bit more disclosure of results instead of "it's all over the place". What does that mean? If they fired ten shots at x distance, I want to know how many did damage and how many didn't. It seems to me they could have that information but toss it to the side as irrelevant, which it really isn't.

Same for assault rifle vs assault rifle and magnum vs sniper rifle. If you don't factor in firing rates and accuracy at all, you can only reach wrong conclusions.

Yeah, not hard to time how long it takes to empty a clip and then work out a damage per second stat. But this "study" just confirms what I already know: the shotgun is ridiculous It shouldn't be a one hit kill up close. Also, the assault class needs to go. What's the point of it, again? Regenerating health while boosting is just silly.

 

[Fersis]

Ya, dont make him effeminate like Ted Price..... :lol

/awaits Fersis' eventual scorning...

T__T

 

[Facism]

raptor jesus christ

 

[KZObsessed]

holy fuck

 

[Fersis]

DLC release date announced April 30th
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/04/14/download-killzone-2-steel-and-titanium-april-30th/
Price: TBA

 

[raYne]

DLC release date announced April 30th
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/04/14/download-killzone-2-steel-and-titanium-april-30th/
Price: TBA

Still? :lol

 

[Solideliquid]

Just beat it the other night. I played the entire game on Hard, but that last level I just had to switch it to easy. I couldn't get past Radic's guards, and I died four times trying to beat him on easy.

Over all the game is amazing, but the ending was pretty anti-climactic.

 

[Cruzader]

I dont know why everyone expects it to be free but whatever. $5 bucks is a fair price if they do price it at all. $2.50 for a map is great considering other DLC content out there. For instance costumes for LBP are like $1.99 or something and Home avatar clothes range from $.49-$1.99. Something thats basically useless but to all its own I suppose.

Also was playing on Elite and just finished the train level. All I got to say is that you can tell how retarded the buddy AI is. And the Magnum is useless in Elite. It takes like 4 shots to take a baddy down..wtf. Seriously like thats BS. If it wasnt for those 2 things, the tank you have to destroy wouldn't have been that bad.

 

[Firewire]

T__T

dude, you scare me.

0.0

 

[.GqueB.]

T__T

...by the gods...

 

[Firewire]

FFObsessed is a dirty fighter!

 

[KZObsessed]

FFObsessed is a dirty fighter!

I am?

I am.

 

[Firewire]

I am?

I am.

Admitting there's a problem is the first step in solving the problem.

Stop killing me so much and your problem will be solved.

 

[Dante]

:lol Macho Man Ted Price...Sooooo creepy.

 

[prettyvacant77]

T__T

Best thing I've seen all week :lol

 

[VNZ]

Those damage charts back up my irritation on boost and assault with some hard facts... Really, it's just bafflingly stupid game design. The MP would be much more enjoyable if the assault class was replaced by a heavy defense class, with the following changes:

Replace boost ability with "Regen", which will increase hp regeneration (for a longer time span than boost) but decrease speed = a class for defense roles
Enable LMG:s and shotgun
150% HP instead of 200%

Seems fair, right?

 

[McLovin]

T__T

:lol :lol
For two maps $8-$10 would be fair.

 

[KZObsessed]

Fersis, that has got to be your new avatar. :lol If people hated the old one, that one will be their Armageddon.

 

[Snipes424]

Those damage charts back up my irritation on boost and assault with some hard facts... Really, it's just bafflingly stupid game design. The MP would be much more enjoyable if the assault class was replaced by a heavy defense class, with the following changes:

Replace boost ability with "Regen", which will increase hp regeneration (for a longer time span than boost) but decrease speed = a class for defense roles
Enable LMG:s and shotgun
150% HP instead of 200%

Seems fair, right?

Please not another class with the shotgun.

I shit you not, 9 deaths out of 10 is to the mother fucking noob shotgun.

Other then that, that seems fine to me.

 

[KZObsessed]

DLC release date announced April 30th
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/04/14/download-killzone-2-steel-and-titanium-april-30th/
Price: TBA

This probably means they were gonna charge, but now everyone believes they're gonna be free so we don't know what to do now. :lol Come on Sony, make the first one free... like a drug dealer!

 

[Nizz]

Fersis, that has got to be your new avatar. :lol If people hated the old one, that one will be their Armageddon.

:lol :lol

 

[GodofWine]

DLC release date announced April 30th
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/04/14/download-killzone-2-steel-and-titanium-april-30th/
Price: TBA

So there are new 'game modes' associated with these maps?? I like that idea a lot.

Kinda wish each map had one special strategic objectives now that I think about it, that would be cool, each maps Warzone would be slightly different. I.e,

Radec - Free the hostages from the two holding cells in the tunnels (or read a book in the library?)

Pyrus - detonate the three bridges

Crossing - escort a certain team member or two across the bridge

Tempy! Pass these on!!!

 

[Firewire]

This probably means they were gonna charge, but now everyone believes they're gonna be free so we don't know what to do now. :lol Come on Sony, make the first one free... like a drug dealer!

Apparently Sony says it won't be free.

The website that originally reported on the upcoming Killzone 2 map pack being a free download, has corrected its story. The news item now says Sony Computer Entertainment contacted Tweakers.net, stating the DLC will in fact NOT be free, but will cost a still unknown amount of money. This one IS confirmed by Sony, so alas, no free dlc for Killzone 2.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...illzone-2-aan.html&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

[Kittonwy]

Those damage charts back up my irritation on boost and assault with some hard facts... Really, it's just bafflingly stupid game design. The MP would be much more enjoyable if the assault class was replaced by a heavy defense class, with the following changes:

Replace boost ability with "Regen", which will increase hp regeneration (for a longer time span than boost) but decrease speed = a class for defense roles
Enable LMG:s and shotgun
150% HP instead of 200%

Seems fair, right?

The last thing you want to give assault is health regen when they already have more health. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to gimp the assault class though because that would render it kind of useless. Assault with just a M4 is already pretty deadly even without boost.

 

[alr1ght]

do it

 

[GodofWine]

The last thing you want to give assault is health regen when they already have more health. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to gimp the assault class though because that would render it kind of useless. Assault with just a M4 is already pretty deadly even without boost.

From a logical perspective, I think boost should reduce health..fine, they can be tanks when they move at normal speed, but when they pick up a speaker and want to run with it, give us a chance of killing them...make using boost tactical and not just "upon recharge".

....I need to get the M4.... >_<

 

[KZObsessed]

Apparently Sony says it won't be free.



http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...illzone-2-aan.html&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Nooo! Well, at least I don't mind. Hopefully in 6 months or so they'll start with some free stuff to stop the majority leaving to MW2 blah etc

do it

DO IT DO IT DO IT NOOOW!

The majority has spoken.

 

[Fersis]

Poor GG and SCEE they dont know how to say:
'Hey guys,it was a bad google translation... its not free'
$4.99 is a fair price

 

[KZObsessed]

From a logical perspective, I think boost should reduce health..fine, they can be tanks when they move at normal speed, but when they pick up a speaker and want to run with it, give us a chance of killing them...make using boost tactical and not just "upon recharge".

....I need to get the M4.... >_<

The M4 is godly. Don't know if I could live without it.

 

[commish]

The last thing you want to give assault is health regen when they already have more health. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to gimp the assault class though because that would render it kind of useless. Assault with just a M4 is already pretty deadly even without boost.

hmm? They already have health regen when they boost, right?

Please not another class with the shotgun.

I shit you not, 9 deaths out of 10 is to the mother fucking noob shotgun.

Other then that, that seems fine to me.

Ha, yeah, I agree with this 100%. I swear my kd ratio would be 4:1 if it wasn't for shotguns (and, to a lesser extent, rockets... lesser bc I prefer to play on servers where there are no rockets). What's annoying is that it takes no skill to get one lucky shot off. It's always someone with a score of 14-24 who randomly shoots and headshots me from 20 meters away with the shotty. Drives me insane!

 

[Donos]

Come on Sony, make the first one free... like a drug dealer!

:lol :lol :lol

and :lol @ Fersis. When Ted sits in his house late at night and sees a shadow outside the window he maybe thinks "hmm maybe it's that creepy guy from Neogaf ..."

 

[SolidSnakex]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/images.html

 

[commish]

The M4 is godly. Don't know if I could live without it.

Yeah, it really is godly. It just FEELS good when you hit someone square in the chest with it. My only issue with it is how superior it is to the other handgun. They need to be brought closer in ability.

 

[TTP]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/images.html

Great. More here

http://www.killzone.com/kz/news.psml?kz_news_article=Killzone+2+DLC+Exclusive+Screenshots

 

[Liabe Brave]

As I see it, there are two situations where Assault is incredibly hard to deal with:
1. During Search & Retrieve, where greater speed and greater health means they can just run for the delivery without tactics.
2. During close-quarters indoor play, where their explosive weapons and high health let them take on whole enemy squads successfully.

The second problem can be corrected by turning on friendly fire, or turning off the weapons. But I don't find that ideal, and I think giving Assault LMGs as default instead would be better. That way only the Rifleman could use rocket/grenade launchers, which would encourage use of that class again (which can't use secondaries, so using a launcher would have that disadvantage to counter its power).

As for the first problem, my suggestion would be to make it so Assault can only walk during normal play; Boost would then take them up to a regular running speed. For other classes, a Boost secondary would have the same effect it does now. So in S&R you'd have a choice of greater health or greater speed, but not both.

 

[teepo]

Yeah, it really is godly. It just FEELS good when you hit someone square in the chest with it. My only issue with it is how superior it is to the other handgun. They need to be brought closer in ability.

i dunno.. the m4 isn't capable of popping 3 consecutive headshots within a matter of a second or two.

 

[Kittonwy]

hmm? They already have health regen when they boost, right?



Ha, yeah, I agree with this 100%. I swear my kd ratio would be 4:1 if it wasn't for shotguns (and, to a lesser extent, rockets... lesser bc I prefer to play on servers where there are no rockets). What's annoying is that it takes no skill to get one lucky shot off. It's always someone with a score of 14-24 who randomly shoots and headshots me from 20 meters away with the shotty. Drives me insane!

Yes boost does give health regen to any class, it does make assault so much more powerful since they already have more health.

 

[alr1ght]

Just give assault the rocket launcher (with x1 rocket) or the LMG, 150% health, slightly slower.

 

[gantz85]

How's the health of the online MP community now? Is the population still dwindling?

 

[commish]

i dunno.. the m4 isn't capable of popping 3 consecutive headshots within a matter of a second or two.

I'd love to see you pop off 3 consecutive headshots in a second or two. Sure, it's theoretically possible, but in my 120 hours online, I've yet to come across a single person who can do that. Or even get headshots consistently at all with the handgun. IMO the analog sticks just aren't sensitive enough to offer that kind of control. At least I know *I* haven't been able to reach that level of aiming proficiency with the sticks. It's just so much easier to put a shot or 2 into your chest with the M4.

 

[Firewire]

How's the health of the online MP community now? Is the population still dwindling?

Servers seem full of people, so I would say its pretty healthy.

 

[MutFox]

Maps should be free.
If they're pay, all they do is split the online community.

 

[commish]

How's the health of the online MP community now? Is the population still dwindling?

Yeah, I've never had a second of difficulty finding a game. Now, getting into the types of games I want... that can be a problem. I prefer the long games nowadays, but they are always full. Perhaps with more people, more games to join!

Remove the double health from the assault class, enable FF, problem solved. I don't really like the boost, either, because of the lag factor - I've said it "felt like cheating". But boosting is so useful for getting around big maps like PR, especially when game modes change and you have to rush back to defend.

 

[KZObsessed]

Now those screens look amazing! Guerrilla's KZ2 screens never used to do the game justice but those look gorgeous.

 

[AranhaHunter]

Finally started playing online yesterday, 12 kills, 11 deaths in Corinth River 2 games that I joined halfway in, I'm rusty as shit and I gotta get used to the controls again as they greatly differ from SP. I'll try to keep my K/D above 1 but it'll be hard since my online average on most shooters is .7 or so, I don't think I can go for 1% this week.

 

[lunlunqq]

Finally started playing online yesterday, 12 kills, 11 deaths in Corinth River 2 games that I joined halfway in, I'm rusty as shit and I gotta get used to the controls again as they greatly differ from SP. I'll try to keep my K/D above 1 but it'll be hard since my online average on most shooters is .7 or so, I don't think I can go for 1% this week.

well, the 1% trophy has nothing to do with your K/D rate. It's purely based on the points you gained throughout the week. So just play a lot and you will get the 1%.

 

[alr1ght]

I would recommend doing pistols matches first to unlock the M4 so you're not totally nerfed until you unlock the badge abilities.

 

[FirewalkR]

I just came here to offer my support on Fersis changing his avatar to the new "I wuv you Ted" pic. :lol