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Kim Jong-un's ex-lover 'executed by firing squad' (Up: or not)
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Yup, Pyongyang is like less than 120 miles from Seoul.
Unless South Korea planned an annihilation type of preemptive strike, completely leveling all of NK, there is just nothing anyone will be able to do, to stop the thousands of rounds of artillery, mortars and ballistic missiles from launching and destroying Seoul or other South Korean cities. The devastation would be enormous, it would completely paralyze South Korea, send the Asian and global markets into shock/recession.
NinjaMouse
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God this doc stayed with me for days. So disturbing =/.
Give "Seoul Train" a whirl when you get a chance, too. I found it to be worse than Camp 14.
Nicktendo86
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Party officials are litteray eating the nutrients of their victims. I don't think a regime has ever been as evil as NK, Nazi Germany included.
triplestation
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north korea is a real life horror movie
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Which is fitting, considering that Friday the 13th was allegedly Kim Jong-il's favorite movie.
Chie Satonaka
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Someone's got to tell me what it's going to take to end this.
Every time I hear about human rights violations in DPRK, it breaks my heart a little. Is there ANYTHING that can be done?
Every time I hear about human rights violations in DPRK, it breaks my heart a little. Is there ANYTHING that can be done?
For Mainland China to embrace the concept of human rights and to stop allying with some of the more authoritarian countries in the world like North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc.
The only reason North Korea hasn't collapsed is because China provides them with food, aid, materials so that they can act as a buffer for SK/US/JP. If North Korea fails, you'll have millions escape into China as well, and you'll see SK dominate the peninsula and potentially have a major US ally share a border with China.
North Korea was going to lose the Korean War, it was Mao and the communists who didn't want to lose a fellow communist ally that sent reinforcements and helped stave off defeat and lead to the ceasefire/armistice.
Also, humanitarian aid needs to stop. It doesn't reach citizens but instead is used to feed the military and whatever is left is used to feed citizens as a gift from dear leader.
You can't break the human spirit forever. People are now at 3-4 generations under occupation. Eventually they'll say fuck it, they don't want to eat grass and sprouts while the opulent young general is shown on television.
If you read a lot of interviews with defectors, many have said they've openly started to talk about how much better SK is, how they've started to receive South Korean broadcasts illegally, how western goods have been smuggled in from China etc. That people have started to see through the cult of personality that has built up.
I wish this was true. But like his father and his grandfather, he could live a perfectly happy life until the end of his days. Life is not really inherently fair
I mean, most people in NK know that.
Rentahamster
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North Korea isn't fascist. There is no privately controlled corporations beholden to the state, or much private property, for that matter, and so it doesn't really revolve around corporatism, either. Sure, they are ultra-nationalist, autocratic, and militarized, but IMO, that doesn't necessarily make a fascist state.
The economy is centrally planned, and the means of production are owned/controlled by the state. This, as well as their opposition to Capitalism, their collectivist policies, and their hegemonic ideology cemented through juche, are characteristics more akin to Socialism/Communism. They were founded with the intention of a Socialist or Communist ideal, but have since warped into some freaky version of it.
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Deleted member 80556
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You're forgetting the fact that he was killed because he was drinking the day Kim Jong Il died.
Yep. Now that woman probably has control over him if it was that.
Not for a long time that's for certain. It would literally cost SK hundreds of billions, possibly trillions to rebuild NK from being an impoverished backwater into a modern nation, which would take years. For that reason alone, SK has no interest in reunification.
You mean the same way Kim Jong Il was fucked over by fate? Oh wait that's right, he lived the luxurious life of an emperor, feasting on the finest sushi and sleeping on women's bodies, and dying of natural causes.
It's almost cartoon levels of bullshit.
Part of me want's to think that it's not that bad and it's just our media creating propaganda stories to paint them in some barbaric light..but I know it's probably true and that makes it worse.
I might whinge from time to time about stuff in my life, but things like this kinda put it into perspective.
Part of me want's to think that it's not that bad and it's just our media creating propaganda stories to paint them in some barbaric light..but I know it's probably true and that makes it worse.
I might whinge from time to time about stuff in my life, but things like this kinda put it into perspective.
lmao yea fucking right....
Yeah, the reality of it is quite sad.
He has an older brother who's been living in China for many years now and has no influence at all with his father's regime besides being a public embarrassment. Kim went back to NK so he could literally become a god. History is filled with dictators who received western education only to return to their home country to massacre the population there
Cameron122
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Dear Leader and the gang travels by train
We have drones
Oops
Stop sending supplies over to NK
As infrastructure crumbles South Korean Forces liberate camps.
Survivors of administration tried for crimes against humanity
We have drones
Oops
Stop sending supplies over to NK
As infrastructure crumbles South Korean Forces liberate camps.
Survivors of administration tried for crimes against humanity
You can't think of reunification in Germany terms. The problem here is, you have millions of indoctrinated individuals. Pyongyang is less than 120 miles from Seoul, they an easily maintain the largest NK city. The problem is the breakdown of this 'juche' military first ideology and system. Where are the 1-2 million North Korean soldiers going to go? They have a suicidal fanaticism for the Kim Il-Sung family.
Plus, you'd figure many will escape into China. There would also be tons of arms, artillery and missiles that would need to be accounted for, not to mention free the hundreds of thousands of people in the concentration camps/gulags.
The reunification needs to be peaceful as well... But the net positive for SK in the long run would be immense. Total control of the Korean peninsula. You'd have a new workforce/labor population in the millions, and even though North Korea has mismanaged the agricultural land, you'd have a new landscape that can be developed and brought under South Korean rule. New factories, farms, automated facilities etc.
This is all a pipe dream however. South Korea is still not as developed as say Japan etc. It's still not a top 10 economy, it faces it's own problems etc. It sucks because those poor people in NK will probably still suffer for decades without any change in the long run.
FelixOrion
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holy fucking shit
Unbound By Death
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lol gotta love realism
I don't think they have killed anything close to 100,000 people in North Korea.
What? Tell me you are kidding.
Well if they broke the law, then they broke the law period. If the law says you will get the death penalty if you make pornographic images. Then tough, that's the law and you broke it knowingly. It's no different from China executing people accused of possessing drugs. If you live in China just don't play with drugs.
As for those children that were gassed to death in Syria. They didn't break any laws, they were just innocent people just getting on with their daily lives.
Since he came into power.
This isn't a fairly tale.
Chances are he'll live a fine life and die of old age like the rest of us.
God this doc stayed with me for days. So disturbing =/.
Days? I read the book a while back and I still remember the details. Every thread on NK makes my blood boil. Every ridiculous poster saying that it's not that bad and it's all made up propaganda makes me rage.
NK is the worst country on the face of this planet. I remember before I knew anything about NK, I saw a picture at Kim Jong Ils funeral and Un was crying. I told people to give him a break. How wrong I was.
Don't worry, bad guys don't go to heaven.
I am forgetting nothing, actually. Why do you think I have forgotten this?
Dude was a top aide AND he was SEEN drinking and drunk NOT during off hours. That still makes the method of execution an over the top expression of fully enjoying his killing.
Right. And if a relative of yours is (probably falsely) accused of dealing with pornography, you go straight to a concentration camp after watching his execution.
Don't complain, it's okay - it's the law! Even if you're just 5 years old!
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3071468/
Unbound By Death
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
shakin_haitian
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You're joking, right? This shit has been going on since the late '40s.
Switzerland needs to be tried for war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity immeditely. The entire goddamn country. I want every teacher and every school accounted for and all war mongerers, "aka bullies," arrested.
Well shit man, all those black people executed by their masters for trying to escape or refusing orders broke the law and that's that. Shit, Abraham Lincoln was the worst President in US history, he broke the motherfkn constitution, the law of the land trying to take those legally owned slaves from their masters. What a war mongerer.
Just because the law is the law, doesn't mean we can't protest or comment on how disgusting it is, and be it in our power to do so, attempt to change it. You're telling me you would just turn your head and follow any and every law no matter how horrible and despicable said law is? If the law told you to turn over jews to the gestapo and you hid them in you're house, then you deserve to die or be punished? If the law told you that you were subhuman and didn't have the right to basic freedoms, would you respect it regardless? Jesus, man. I can't believe I'm actually reading this, I honestly hope it's sarcasm.
And ultimately, when it comes right down to it, there probably was never any porno or anything of the sort, the dude in charge of North Korea can execute anyone and everyone, law or no law, with any measly excuse he wants to come up with to justify his crimes.
I just researched this a bit.
It seems all articles around the world are based on the South Korean "newspaper" Chsun Ilbo. And it seems this "newspaper" is conservative and right-sided. It also seems there is no independant confirmation and the "newspaper" refers to (an?) unnamed Chinese source(s).
Original article here:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/08/29/2013082901412.html
Could someone from SouthKoreaGAF please tell, if this newspaper is like the UK's "Sun"? Because several articles, that I found, said that it would be similar to my country's equivalent of "The Sun". I'm just wondering. Especially after looking at this part of this "newspaper": http://english.chosun.com/svc/hotissue_list.html?code=The Buzz
It seems all articles around the world are based on the South Korean "newspaper" Chsun Ilbo. And it seems this "newspaper" is conservative and right-sided. It also seems there is no independant confirmation and the "newspaper" refers to (an?) unnamed Chinese source(s).
Original article here:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/08/29/2013082901412.html
Could someone from SouthKoreaGAF please tell, if this newspaper is like the UK's "Sun"? Because several articles, that I found, said that it would be similar to my country's equivalent of "The Sun". I'm just wondering. Especially after looking at this part of this "newspaper": http://english.chosun.com/svc/hotissue_list.html?code=The Buzz
What the hell are you on?
Never heard that story, and I don't even think it would be possible looking at the amount of bodyguards and diplomats probably watching over him.
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NinjaFridge
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CountAntonius
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I think when the North falls and the world goes in they will discover more atrocities than anyone could have imagined. We probably wish we would have gone in sooner.
Rentahamster
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Yeah, I know that ideas of racial purity and ultranationalism are common qualities of Fascism. I pointed that out in my original post. However, I also don't think that those are necessarily the defining points of Fascism. Using their economics models as a means of comparison seems cleaner, especially since North Korea is clearly Socialist/Communist in the ideals it was founded on, as well as the way they structure their national economy.
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NinjaFridge
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I don think China will let them fall. They'll either keep them going or take over.
Thanks for the link!
This stuff always fascinates me. Does anybody know of a good documentary or book covering the darker side of North Korea? It's always frightening to know these sorts of things are happening right now somewhere in the world.
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