Liam Robertson on what happened with MvC:I
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Dante's meth face didn't make it obvious to you?
I've never said this about any other game before, but seeing how little resources Capcom was willing to give for such a big name title, at least as far as the fighting game genre is concerned, this game deserved to bomb hard. I feel bad for the people who worked on this game and wanted to make something better, but weren't given the opportunity by the higher ups.
Budgets, how do they work?
Criticizing Capcom for lowballing the budget on the main game is very much deserved. The quality difference between the returnee models vs the newbies is night and day.
Criticizing them for offering up additional DLC characters to buy (something that players actively want!) is not.
Yeah, I was only talking about the bolded part. It's going to shit on SFV too.
deadscreensky
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If true this is actually kind of impressive. The game doesn't look great, at all, but there's a lot of stages, lots of long (if mostly bad) cutscenes, a fairly large cast, the online features are pretty solid, there's an arcade mode (!), there's a couple boss characters. The game definitely feels cheap, but it doesn't feel that cheap.
Man, what an embarrassment, fuck off Capcom. I was kinda tempted to get this despite how shitty it looks because I adore Capcom IPs, especially Mega Man, but nah, I'll wait till they decide to improve presentation if that ever happens... DBF looks incredible too, so that will fill the void.
Whar confuses me if how they pull off this nonsense with Marvel being involved, like... How does Marvel not do anything? I'm kinda impressed they even allow themselves to be tied to a product like this.
Whar confuses me if how they pull off this nonsense with Marvel being involved, like... How does Marvel not do anything? I'm kinda impressed they even allow themselves to be tied to a product like this.
Shoot I didn't pay much attention to this game until close to release. I thought this whole thing was rushed.
I remember him being fairly on the money about Mass Effect Andromeda, but IIRC he also said that Bioware intentionally designed the female character models be less attractive for purposes of feminism, which was ridiculous (and assumed way too much of Bioware's competence regarding character models).
Baraka Obama
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Marvel doesn't fund these games. They just license them.
Pai Pai Master
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They used the framework of the models from MvC3 and reskinned them accordingly to adhere to the change in art style. And some of them (Cap/Hawkeye) got fuckin' mangled in the process.
I don't understand new capcom. I loved old capcom
how could they not realize going low budget and cutting corners on a game, especially considering their past standards, would affect the sales and reception of the game? if you want people to buy your shit, make it as good as you can, and put in the investment it deserves to be done well. MVCI reeks of half-assedness, and is nothing I want to support as a consumer, despite being a huge MVC fan. If they wanted to spend less on it, then reduce scope, and do a smaller amount in better quality.
But knowing new capcom, they will likely write this off as fans not wanting more mvc. To be fair, they'd be right, if it's another low effort toss out
sigh
how could they not realize going low budget and cutting corners on a game, especially considering their past standards, would affect the sales and reception of the game? if you want people to buy your shit, make it as good as you can, and put in the investment it deserves to be done well. MVCI reeks of half-assedness, and is nothing I want to support as a consumer, despite being a huge MVC fan. If they wanted to spend less on it, then reduce scope, and do a smaller amount in better quality.
But knowing new capcom, they will likely write this off as fans not wanting more mvc. To be fair, they'd be right, if it's another low effort toss out
sigh
6 characters, 3 of which will be out in a few weeks.
AwakenedCloud
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One of my friends is big into the MvC FGC and posted exactly this today. His post boiled down to "If you want a different roster then wait until they add him or her, if you want visuals go play DB FighterZ, and if you want X-Men tough 'cuz there's already enough interesting characters. Stop complaining, we don't want you in our community, you would've dropped the game two weeks after launch anyway."
That is how an iceberg shrinks.
Stone Ocean
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Are you talking about the SFxT DLC? Because those were 100% cut and sold back.
I don't recall for sure, but I think he had some correct stuff about the hardware, as did most notable "insiders", but he and many others shit the bed on software rumors.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Unseen64 has been on the money lately. I didnt like liam before but I changed my mind after awhile
ElBoxyBrown
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Because their management follows a completely insane business model of simultaneously reducing production value of their products (in highly visible ways) while expecting higher returns, in a genre where their competition is growing.
I honestly feel nothing but empathy for their teams who have to suffer under this complete bullshit.
UnemployedVillain
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What else is Capcom spending money on exactly?
But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
Oh shit, what if Capcom is pulling a Gearbox/Pitchford and using Disney's MvC:I money mostly on MHW?!
Baraka Obama
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Lol, no way you would have known.
SinCityAssassin
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One thing was a comprehensive insider thing he leaked that involved the ability to use a browser and video calling, 4K streaming, and a max tv output of 900p for video games.
Obviously none of that happened. Non-Switch insider stuff is Liam's skillset.
Dark Ninja
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Pretty impressive for a low budget title the stages look really good, gameplay is good, full story, some of the characters look good and pretty amazing that Capcom gives SFV such a high budget for DLC going off its initial sales.
Strangelove77
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What a shame that this is how one my favorite series ends.
Jawmuncher
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But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
That was old info and mumblings from before the game got fully revealed.
So no surprise that was wrong. Disney put no money into the game.
But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
LOL Where's this "ton of money" going? On catered lunches for the office? It's clearly not on display in the game.
Edit: Oh of course it was unfounded gossip, what a surprise.
But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
Which of these credible sources am I supposed to trust? jeez.
Stone Ocean
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Where did the money go then? The Ultron Sigma E3 statue?But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
Because it sure as hell wasn't spent on the game's development.
LordKasual
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the only reason i can imagine they sunk this low is because they fucking know it's going to sell (and be relevant) because of the FGC.
If Arc System Works doesn't come out the gate and completely blow them away in sales, and also steal a good portion of the FGC attention with its FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR superior work ethic, then nothing will ever stop Capcom from doing this
Dragon Ball Fighter Z, Tomoko...you're our last hope.
If Arc System Works doesn't come out the gate and completely blow them away in sales, and also steal a good portion of the FGC attention with its FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR superior work ethic, then nothing will ever stop Capcom from doing this
Dragon Ball Fighter Z, Tomoko...you're our last hope.
Screwing up by putting the DLC on the day 1 disc (necessary for playing vs players who've purchased the DLC) does not mean that those characters were originally budgeted and developed with the expectation of being on the base roster!
Baraka Obama
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Damn, I always thought his videos on old games where good but that makes me second guess his info from now on.
Drilbit777
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Lol I knew monster hunter and black panther were finished, makes sense considering they show up in story mode.
Capcom went as low budget as possible so they could try and profit off it.
Capcom went as low budget as possible so they could try and profit off it.
DeuceGamer
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Capcom is so depressing anymore. Im not sure what else to even say. I keep hoping they somehow turn the ship around, but I know its a long shot
Edit: maybe it would be best if they merged with another company if the issue is resources/budgets, which it honestly seems to be considering their low output, needing Sony to help fund SFV, and the low budget of MvC:I (if true).
Edit: maybe it would be best if they merged with another company if the issue is resources/budgets, which it honestly seems to be considering their low output, needing Sony to help fund SFV, and the low budget of MvC:I (if true).
Well that all plays a role in why it's scummy. All the other fighters got dlc, I'm mainly giving Capcom shit in this instance because of their low-budget nature.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
But Ryce said the opposite about the budget.
Hmm.
Which Capcom insider am I supposed to believe
JigglesBunny
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MvC:I is the first game this generation that I bought digitally and desperately want a refund for. I havent worked up the desire to touch it since finishing the campaign and I really bothering with it.
Meanwhile, Ive had plenty of time on Injustice 2 since.
Meanwhile, Ive had plenty of time on Injustice 2 since.