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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|

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Again, same with the Badminton girls, the rules encourage it so the federations and IOC should be put under more scrutiny than saying these athletes have no class.

Not the same because one sport had 4 teams disqualified and the other had the team ended up winning Gold. Fucking double standards.

Also just read on Yahoo sports that the Chinese track cyclists got screwed out of Gold medal even though they broke the World Record.
 
I'm British and I was certainly not impressed with Hindes going down on purpose. I don't support that sort of behaviour no matter who does it.
 
They shouldn't DQ the badminton players either. In fact the Badminton league officials should be invested for coming up with such ass backward elimination round rules.

The problem with the Badminton scandal is the fact that the paying attendees were basically robbed of their money because of the players' conducts.

I'm British and I was certainly not impressed with Hindes going down on purpose. I don't support that sort of behaviour no matter who does it.

So much salt hurr

I must say, it's quite annoying to be accused of being "salty" because apparently some posters have inferiority complexes.
 
Heard this on NPR this morning.

Nothing wrong with what Hindes did, IMO.

Sport is about winning and doing everything within the established regulations one is allowed to in order to win. I think people should be upset if he didn't try his best -- within the regulations -- to give himself the best opportunity to win.

If the regulations do not prohibit a restart, he is fully in his right to do what he can to win.

And at the end of the day, he still had to perform to win, anyways.

So expanding this from an individual race, to an entire tournament, you feel the badminton players did nothing wrong? At the end of the day, they would still have to win some games.

Although I guess you should argue that some of the fans are NASCAR-like and want to see riders take a spill, so they were provided even more of a show.
 
Wow there's a lot of ignorance about cycling in this thread.

He obviously had a mechanical issue with his start. He could have just raised his hand or stopped but he went down instead. Nothing wrong about it, just indicated he needed a restart to happen.
 
Not the same because one sport had 4 teams disqualified and the other had the team ended up winning Gold. Fucking double standards.

Also just read on Yahoo sports that the Chinese track cyclists got screwed out of Gold medal even though they broke the World Record.

The Chinese cyclists got screwed because of the federations rules. I agree there was a double standard and I still contend that the only reason the badminton teams were disqualified because it made Rogge look bad as he was there. This Olympics have seen "upsets" that have happened only because of a lack of trying but only the badminton players have gotten vilified. I am watching Brazil and Japan in woman's football right now and apparently Brazil threw their last game because they would rather take on Japan than the US.
 
Heard this on NPR this morning.

Nothing wrong with what Hindes did, IMO.

Sport is about winning and doing everything within the established regulations one is allowed to in order to win. I think people should be upset if he didn't try his best -- within the regulations -- to give himself the best opportunity to win.

If the regulations do not prohibit a restart, he is fully in his right to do what he can to win.

And at the end of the day, he still had to perform to win, anyways.

It's the exact same thing as those Badminton players. They did all they could to win... to win the gold metal that is. And it's better for them to lose their group match so they don't play the best team in the next round.

Those british cyclists did the same thing : they lost that race on purpose, to get a second chance. And they did get an advantage over everyone else : they get 2 tries where everyone has one. Once aagain, if it's not in the rules it's not in the rules but it's the same thing as what the badminton players did.
 
They shouldn't DQ the badminton players either. In fact the Badminton league officials should be invested for coming up with such ass backward elimination round rules.

Yeah, that's my stance too. Teams tank all the time in all sports. I understand the spirit of competition and all that high-standing bullshit, but it's reality. Those badminton players shouldn't have faced those penalties.
 
It's not like he got a free pass to the medal. He actually performed well enough to get it.

It's just a shame he had to resort to stuff like that to get to it.

The world isn't black and white. It may not be wrong within the rules, but it's still... Dirty stuff.

Besides, if he hadn't done anything wrong, he wouldn't have backpedaled on his comments afterwards.
You are right, what Hindes it isn't very sporting but it was a no-brainer to fall over and get the restart. As someone said earlier it it's like deliberate fouls in basketball or Suarez's handball in the World Cup, it isn't in the spirit of the game but very stupid not to do.
 
The Chinese cyclists got screwed because of the federations rules. I agree there was a double standard and I still contend that the only reason the badminton teams were disqualified because it made Rogge look bad as he was there. This Olympics have seen "upsets" that have happened only because of a lack of trying but only the badminton players have gotten vilified. I am watching Brazil and Japan in woman's football right now and apparently Brazil threw their last game because they would rather take on Japan than the US.

No freaking way. Japan is a much harder adversary than the US.

And we wouldn't even have to face the US if we won against GB.
 
Not the same because one sport had 4 teams disqualified and the other had the team ended up winning Gold. Fucking double standards.

Also just read on Yahoo sports that the Chinese track cyclists got screwed out of Gold medal even though they broke the World Record.
The GB team broke records too, we were even disqualified for one event. But... there was still a fair race after Hindes fell. And being "screwed" out of a gold medal is debatable because the officials had access to much higher resolution cameras than the one we watch the races with, and it isn't as if the officials made a quick decision to take China's gold from them.
 
I love the expression of the guy on the durney. An oldish guy in black lycra and a black helmet, looking as neutral as possible while being *very* aware that he's an oldish guy in black lycra and a black helmet being watched by tens of millions worldwidse.
 
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Wow there's a lot of ignorance about cycling in this thread.

He obviously had a mechanical issue with his start. He could have just raised his hand or stopped but he went down instead. Nothing wrong about it, just indicated he needed a restart to happen.

idk in the bbc interview he seemed to say he fell over because he had a slower start than he wanted
 
It's the exact same thing as those Badminton players. They did all they could to win... to win the gold metal that is. And it's better for them to lose their group match so they don't play the best team in the next round.

Those british cyclists did the same thing : they lost that race on purpose, to get a second chance. And they did get an advantage over everyone else : they get 2 tries where everyone has one. Once aagain, if it's not in the rules it's not in the rules but it's the same thing as what the badminton players did.

No, he had a mechanical failure and got a restart.

Every country would have done it and that's the reason France didn't complain. It's part of the game.
 
Volleyball GBR VS DOM.....in HD

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You are right, what Hindes it isn't very sporting but it was a no-brainer to fall over and get the restart. As someone said earlier it it's like deliberate fouls in baseball or Suarez's handball in the World Cup, it isn't in the spirit of the game but very stupid not to do.

It's interesting how USA Basketball aficionados criticised the British team for not purposefully fouling to get extra time, but when it comes to this... that's out of order.
 
Japan is a good team but the USA are the number 1 ranked team.

Who lost to Japan in the WC.

Their rank doesn't matter. Everyone here considers Japan to be a much harder adversary, and I'm sure the team coach does too. He didn't threw the match, he just lost it.
 
I hope so too. Everyone's been doing well this time around.

I recall that in Beijing it took Canadians 8 days to medal or something so I think they're doing better.

It is also important to remember that the events are not held on the same days as they were in Beijing. In Beijing are first medals were rowing I believe when in this Olympics we got the same rowing medals on like day 4.
 
Wow there's a lot of ignorance about cycling in this thread.

He obviously had a mechanical issue with his start. He could have just raised his hand or stopped but he went down instead. Nothing wrong about it, just indicated he needed a restart to happen.
If that was the case, then for sure there'd be no problem. However, Hindes on the BBC suggested that it was more his error that caused him to slip at the start and so he went down knowing the heat would be stopped.

I do think that's not exactly in the spirit of the Olympics. I'm happy that the team won the Gold in the final fair and square, but if another nation had done what Hindes seems to have suggested he did and they would've won the Gold, I would be pretty upset by it. That's why I have to be honest that I'm not particularly happy about him doing what he did, even if we did benefit from it.
 
The GB team broke records too, we were even disqualified for one event. But... there was still a fair race after Hindes fell. And being "screwed" out of a gold medal is debatable because the officials had access to much higher resolution cameras than the one we watch the races with, and it isn't as if the officials made a quick decision to take China's gold from them.

Nope, the official even refused to watch it in slow motion. You can't even appeal in that sport, lol.
 
But how is it different to the basketball where team GB were expected to intentionally foul and were ridiculed for not doing so?

Is that fair play? Why was it expected?

That's not fair play at all in my opinion, and I dislike that part of basketball. But for some reason it's been accepted and built into the rules. At least if those gestures are allowed within certain quotas, they shouldn't call them "fouls" any more.
 
No, he had a mechanical failure and got a restart.

Every country would have done it and that's the reason France didn't complain. It's part of the game.

5 minutes ago you were arguing that he did it on purpose and was right to do it...

Either we take what he said at face value or we don't, if we assume he had a mechanical problem then there is no discussion.
 
If that was the case, then for sure there'd be no problem. However, Hindes on the BBC suggested that it was more his error that caused him to slip at the start and so he went down knowing the heat would be stopped.

I do think that's not exactly in the spirit of the Olympics. I'm happy that the team won the Gold in the final fair and square, but if another nation had done what Hindes seems to have suggested he did and they would've won the Gold, I would be pretty upset by it. That's why I have to be honest that I'm not particularly happy about him doing what he did, even if we did benefit from it.

Hindes' english is shit and he retracted it later.
 
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