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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|

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Y2Kev said:
Okay, question: blade runner...I'm all for him running. And it's great. I don't know if he is disadvantaged at all by having them. But wouldn't he be advantaged just not having to worry about like pulling something or his legs getting tired?

I want to not be ignorant on this.
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They did studies and it seemed consensus was he was using different muscles or something.
I think they let it slide because he's not on pace to beat anything, but I think that sets a bad precedent for when augs get better.
 
Super old news but reading about track and field just found out that Blanka Vlasic is not competing in these Olympics :( I'm so sad. Was looking forward to seeing her.
 
Y2Kev said:
Okay, question: blade runner...I'm all for him running. And it's great. I don't know if he is disadvantaged at all by having them. But wouldn't he be advantaged just not having to worry about like pulling something or his legs getting tired?

I want to not be ignorant on this.
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CBC was saying they are as leg like as possible and there is no mechanical advantage granted to him. This is actually the reason he can participate, because it was definitively proven that he was just like Adam Jensen..I mean, everyone else.

Obviously the pulled muscle thing is a good point, but not many world class atheletes pull muscles in Olympic events. Unless they are big fakers like ben Johnson yoooo ughhh.
 
numble said:
They did studies and it seemed consensus was he was using different muscles or something.
I think they let it slide because he's not on pace to beat anything, but I think that sets a bad precedent for when augs get better.
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It's going to open up a can of worms once we reach DX:HR level augmentations.
 
Y2Kev said:
Okay, question: blade runner...I'm all for him running. And it's great. I don't know if he is disadvantaged at all by having them. But wouldn't he be advantaged just not having to worry about like pulling something or his legs getting tired?

I want to not be ignorant on this.
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You'll never break an ankle...... My wife and I were talking about it. I'd love or him to compete but it does seem worrisome if and when it could give you a competitive advantage.
 
Big-E said:
Does Phelps still eat something like 8 thousand calories a day?
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He said he has cut back on a lot of junk food, but he still eats whatever he wants. He's not on a strict regimen, and just makes sure he stays at a certain threshold calorie wise to stabilize his weight.
 
PaulLFC said:
Looks like KJT is a red
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Poor girl.

A career of failure and disappointment awaits.
 
seattle6418 said:
3 - I used the term totalitarism for China because of the lack of individual freedom for them. I believe you can compare then to those old cold war countries because the only difference is that they introduced capitalism for instances where it was good for the government. There are a lot of chinese people living in Brazil (like in other countries) and you can[t help but feel sorry for the things their goverment does the their people. Forcing athletes and manipulating them like puppets is a well know fact. I don't think calling them out for this is racism. Not at all.
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First of, even though the Eastern Block countries were dictatorships, they were not necessarily totalitarian. That applies to some of them during certain parts of their existence.

Secondly, Chinese society, though far away from western liberal democracy, has a larger degree of freedom than Eastern block countries, and the prevalence of the Communist apparatus has been steadily retreating. It's that which can lead to Totalitarianism, not the grip on power of one party, but the shaping of society in the image of the party and its leader. That was something Mao tried over 40 years ago, and he failed.

If you would follow the news, you would be able to see that individual rights and accountability of the State are on the rise in China. It's a long and arduous process, for countless reasons. One of them being that the Communist Party is trying to advance measures that go towards individual rights as a means of legitimizing their leadership, e.g. "we are the only ones that can combine social progress with stability". It works at this moment, but of course will lead to problems in the long run. Again, that process is leading the country in a direction opposite to totalitarianism, it's a continuation of the anti-Maoist policies started unter Deng Xiaoping.

Thirdly, I wouldn't believe everything that members of the Chinese diaspora say, be it either pro- or anti-mainland. There is so much propaganda out, from either sides, and it reflects views of the overseas Chinese even though many of them have never lived in China.

There are legitimate ground to be suspicious of China and its sport programm, but if you want to make a statement on China, read up on it first, and don't just spout some BS you found on a website that reads "CHINESE CLONE BASKETBALL BABIES, FEED THEM HEARTS FROM ORGAN TRANSPLANTS"
 
Friend of mine who was in the crowd tonight tells me that after that long jump adjudicator got the flag wrong (he put up red and then swapped quickly to white) the crowd cheered him every time he put his flag up after that. :D
 
Maybe a stupid question but why does Great Britain compete as one country? Aren't England, Scotland and Wales separate countries? In soccer they have their own teams.
 
alejob said:
Maybe a stupid question but why does Great Britain compete as one country? Aren't England, Scotland and Wales separate countries? In soccer they have their own teams.
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The football (and rugby) thing is for historical reasons more than anything. For most sports they compete together as the UK, which at the Olympics is referred to as GB (technically incorrect as GB does not include Northern Ireland, islands and dependencies). The term UK is also technically incorrect, but no one really cares.
 
alejob said:
Maybe a stupid question but why does Great Britain compete as one country? Aren't England, Scotland and Wales separate countries? In soccer they have their own teams.
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In reality that would be like the US competing as states. For now (at least until Scotland escapes) on an international stage we're really just one big country with some slightly different "state" laws and tax rules.

As RibbedHero states, the football / rugby stuff is mostly for historic reasons... and because it suits us. :)
 
Jake. said:
this has to be australia's worst olympics in years, right? usually they are in the top 5 for medals and they're around 19 or something at the moment.
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That, or I was told the other day that the team are just going back to historically normalised standard, or in other words Australia had overperformed in prior Olympics. I'd give that a 7/10 actually.
 
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