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London riots spreading through UK
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Dark Machine
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chunk3rvd said:
Heard the guy who did that was arrested earlier on. Also heard about a fire in Walton in an abandoned pub, probably arson. There's something going on back on Smithdown Road in Toxteth too, but it hardly constitutes a riot on the scale we've seen elsewhere so far.
BlazingDarkness
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47 arrested in manchester
My friend wrote this on Facebook. I'll paste it here. I think he's spot on, personally.
I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for this, but these riots do little to surprise me. They are merely the violent and inevitable conclusion of the 'me first' shallow individualism and materialism that is the celebrated status quo of this country. The sum total of a generation taught, with ever increasing ferocity, that they are each precious little snowflakes who owe nothing to society or history and that if they merely apply themselves and show a little entrepreneurial spirit they can each become celebrated millionaires. Of a generation taught to think that everyones in it for themselves and that if they dont get a move on they wont get their slice of the pie. Of a generation taught that there is no such thing as luck, or sentiment, or society, or country, or class. That life is just a game there are winners and losers and nothing else. Of a generation taught to just live in the moment. Because nothing happens after you die so you might as well indulge every impulse your reptilian mind can muster.
Because who gives a fuck right?
Youve got to look out for number one because no one else is going to.
Well now the little snowflakes have taken to the streets. Theyre living in the moment and most certainly winning. Theyve acted like good entrepreneurs where we saw tragedy in the small but heated protests that initiated this whole mess they saw opportunity. An opportunity which theyve ceased efficiently and comprehensively.
Sure.
A good chunk of them will probably be arrested. Theyve hurt a lot of people and done incredible damage to both themselves and those around them for a short term gain that will no doubt evaporate in the morning air. But if you dont believe in a tomorrow then that looming specter does little to bother you.
And hell if you apply yourself maybe youll get away with it.
If they were able to look past their impoverished attire and blood stained hands the crooked politicians, bankers and businessmen who hold dominion over this land would no doubt see kindred spirits in these thugs and thuggish children. A crude, less presentable version, of the greed is good mantra which has elevated our leaders to power and forms the core of our economic and social philosophy.
Last night I saw a little bit of a twitter debate going on between different parties about whether the correct term for these hooded waifs was looters, rioters or protesters.
Im going to cheekily suggest consumers as an accurate title.
Happy Shoppers Stimulating The Economy Of Catchment Area No. 625
When looking at the footage of these apolitical, amoral youths foraging through burnt out convenience stores for luxury goods hefting TVs into shopping trolleys as the country literally, and metaphorically, burns around them I find it difficult to consider any title more appropriate.
Happy shopping everyone.
Arsenal2022
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Can hear a helicopter circling overhead (nr brent cross), but nothing online, please be precautionary.
Edit: Read in a bit more, doesn't appear to be too serious but no info on whats going on there.
Edit: Read in a bit more, doesn't appear to be too serious but no info on whats going on there.
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HAL_Laboratory said:
Fuck that guy. Mistreated or not, this is nothing like the uprisings in the middle east. These people are just a bunch of opportunistic pricks.
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radioheadrule83 said:
How is rejection and isolation going to make the situation better? I can understand the anger, but I am pretty sure doing that is only going to make the problem worse and lead such a situation to arise again.
theignoramus
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how do we actually know this?dc89 said:
radioheadrule83
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Hi dude! What's the latest there?chunk3rvd said:
This was never in any danger of reaching Bath, but Bristol had it quite a bit last night. Do you know where that jcb thing has happened? And have you heard anything about that shooting on wango ln last night?
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Zefah said:
Egyptian bloggers would agree with you.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-egyptians-swap-views
I believe this kind of behaviour can be almost entirely attributed to human psychology. There are very few innately bad people; when people behave like assholes they're is almost asways a reason, even if it isn't immediately obvious. How many of them do you think have single parents? How many passed their GCSE's? Lots of interesting dicussion on sky right nowradioheadrule83 said:
zomgbbqftw
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neutralgamer02 said:
No, they need to be made to work in a fucking labour camp until the know the meaning of hard work.
Ponti
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Then you'll be here a while. There is no why.neutralgamer02 said:
It's been said a few times already but these kids just don't care about anyone. They drop out of school as soon as they can (and most likely never even attended it to begin with), the first place they visit is the dole office. They are lazy, self entitled twats who revel in causing other people misery. They blame everyone else for the problems they have while making zero effort to actually deal with it themselves, like a small number of other people in their situation. They expect the government to give them free handouts while giving absolutely nothing back. They think the system exists to serve them and only them. They need to be sterilized.
We give them everything they need to get out of the situation they are in, but they just throw it back in our face and burn down our houses. Fuck them.
IdreamofHIME
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theignoramus said:
Coz he was caught on film?
http://www.itv.com/granada/miss-selfridges-on-fire44970/
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Omikaru said:
BlazingDarkness
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They don't WANT help from society, it's fucking given to them on a silver platter, a right to education, free housing, job seekers allowance etc etc they simply refuse to integrate into society because they are selfish pricks and would rather leech off of the government and continue to be a shit stain on our collective underpantsneutralgamer02 said:
Dabookerman
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zomgbbqftw said:
That's what it is. They don't know what it feels like to be deprived.
Half my school, which was in Wood Green, a top 10 shit hole, didn't want to get taught. They did not give a shit about an education, yet there it was, given to them for free. Most people fight for an education in any other country. If they had worked hard, they would have a job.
Fuck them.
bobs...onGaf
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AngryMoth said:
The single parent thing is a issue, but im more interested in talking about things like failed GCSE's. The issue I have with that being an excuse is that these people failed theyre GCSE's because they had no interest in working. A lot of these people have gone to the exact same schools as successful people and so for the majority failings Education wise are something they should be personally accountable for. Not blame the govt for.
Sure you can say that theres injustice that the really rich get a much better education than the poor and thats a valid argument. But blaming a lack of GCSE's on that is going too far when other people with the same level of education did a lot better.
There are areas with a higher proportion of "poverty" (I say it with quotation marks as very few people in the UK are actually in poverty, as I said, the benefits system always gives enough to keep you with food on the table and healthcare etc.), that's natural. Tottenham is one of these areas. With a city the size of London, investment is skewed to certain areas and some get less. Does that make Tottenham bad? No, what makes it bad is generations of terrible discipline, an influx of migrants who for various reasons have genuine issues settling in, the drug trade and gang culture.neutralgamer02 said:
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Minor nitpick about that Guardian article, but I'm pretty sure 3 RIFLES are based in Edinburgh (along with 1 SCOTS). Surely there are units based further south that aren't currently on deployment?
Funky Papa
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Better education and more investment could help to reduce the situation, but lets not ignore that chavs are chavs because chavvism has become a likeable lifestyle.
zomgbbqftw
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Dabookerman said:
Personally I would work them in a labour camp sorting rubbish and doing other jobs that people don't want to do, if they don't like it they can always dig holes and fill them back up until they learn.
All under armed guards, try to escape? Shoot to kill.
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I think there was a post earlier about the UK having one of the highest differences in wealth in the world. In another place they might have worse conditions, but everyone has it worse so their may not be that big of a disparity.Meus Renaissance said:
Dead on.Omikaru said:
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Dabookerman said:
This is it. I knew lots of people like that growing up in the States. Not particularly impoverished, but just lazy, self-entitled, angry, and looking for trouble. Being frustrated with your lot doesn't mean you get to wreak havoc on your fellow citizens. These types are scum and will look for every opportunity to blame anyone but their own self.
radioheadrule83 said:
Just seems to be chaos everywhere. The police and fire services are stretched far veyond capacity
JCB smashed in a post office in bootle but I'm not sure where exactly
I heard about the shooting in wango lane but no major details out yet. Don't think it was related to any of this though
unomas said:I couldn't agree more, this is what society has become, a me first morally bankrupt shell of what humanity is supposed to be. Good luck the world
People talking like this doesn't make it much better. The whole "The world is fucked" mentality doesn't sound too different than what a lot of these kids out on the street are probably thinking.
radioheadrule83 said:
What it is is nihilistic, pathologically egocentric greed. A trait also exhibited by crooked newspaper editors, expense fiddling MPs and an cut-throat corporate and financial sector - they all want the same thing and will use the means at their disposal to get it. Blue collar and white collar criminality, with no regard for anyone else, destroying society and the economy from both ends. The modus operandi may be different, the symptoms may be different, but the mentality of profiteering combined with a sociopathic apathy towards others is one that's been ingrained into people since at least the 80s.
We no longer live in a society with a regard for others, and I think this has been clear for a while, should we really be surprised that the consequence of this has been widespread corruption by the upper classes and looting by the underclasses? It's the logical outcome to to a widely held mindset of self-interest without a social conscience.
zomgbbqftw
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Funky Papa said:
Not only likeable, but possible via unemployment and child benefits.
The whole benefits system needs to be ripped up so having children is only incentivised for people who have jobs.
ClosingADoor
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If they actually work some 7-6 jobs for a few weeks, they would feel better about themselves. By just sitting around you get more and more negative about yourself and the world. Also, when you come home, you are too tired to cause trouble.zomgbbqftw said:
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Thurrock Rugby club is now on fire.
Hopefully this isn't the first of many in my area.
Hopefully this isn't the first of many in my area.
zomgbbqftw
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Empty said:
Rather have them in there than out on the streets looting.
Don't get me wrong, there should be opportunity to better themselves by education and sports, but for those absolutely unwilling - hole digging.
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That FB post is now unavailable
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zomgbbqftw said:
You should require a license (and a job) to have kids.
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