RepairmanJack
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I can't wait to read your final reaction after the last chapter. You might need a stress ball prepared.
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I can't wait to read your final reaction after the last chapter. You might need a stress ball prepared.
BassForever
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Hunter X Hunter Heavens Arena Arc
This Nen stuff sounds like it could get very confusing but it does help to diversify how the different characters powers work. Gon's match with Hisoka was a highlight and really shows how far Gon has come but how much farther he has to go. I was disappointed that we really didn't see or hear anything from Kurapika and Leorio in this arc though I've heard the next arc focuses a lot on Kurapika.
When exactly did the many hiatus of HxH begin exactly? I kind of want an idea of where the big breaks were so I can understand the pain you guys went though.
This Nen stuff sounds like it could get very confusing but it does help to diversify how the different characters powers work. Gon's match with Hisoka was a highlight and really shows how far Gon has come but how much farther he has to go. I was disappointed that we really didn't see or hear anything from Kurapika and Leorio in this arc though I've heard the next arc focuses a lot on Kurapika.
When exactly did the many hiatus of HxH begin exactly? I kind of want an idea of where the big breaks were so I can understand the pain you guys went though.
Okay
Neoriceisgood
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Small note:
Kurapika is king kawaii.
Kurapika is king kawaii.
BassForever
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Dem Scarlett eyes
I haven't read the manga in question so don't know the context but it was sometimes used as a childish joke.
"God's Beard!"
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I have never read a manga so consistent and immediate with it's willingness to contradict itself. Most shonen have a few problems like this that I chalk up to the realities of serialization and the indifference of the audience, but this is a complete and global saturation of ineptitude. It's so incompetent at staying in line with its own established fiction that I'm increasingly tempted to believe the author is trolling.
The context is, a guy goes up the rope and gets out, then the next guy turns around and says, "ladies first" unironically. Then the ladies go up.
The context is, a guy goes up the rope and gets out, then the next guy turns around and says, "ladies first" unironically. Then the ladies go up.
Neoriceisgood
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Just curious btw: Are the factual misrepresentations simply really REALLY sloppy research work, or is there an ideology behind it?
RepairmanJack
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So the first guy didn't give a shit and the second guy offered the lady to go first? Plus wasn't it the guy wanting to look up her skirt?
I really don't see the issue with that?
It's honestly just bullshit. It really doesn't have that much of a baring other than them overcoming the obstacle at hand. Ancient animals are on the island and they just use this weird shitty info to defeat them in some way. You're better off just to ignore the explanations.
Ignis Fatuus
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I thought it was obvious that he was being bombastic and exaggerating things for our entertainment.
Neoriceisgood
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He's mentioned some misrepresentations of stuff like genetics that left me genuinly curious.
"God's Beard!"
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They're both pretty out there. EX has Asahi which is a big bonus over CoE, I guess. (retcon: asahi is the dog right? i'm not even sure anymore, anyway i mean the dog)
I may be wrong on this, but off my memory:
260-261 (the first huge hiatus, 2 years, before we knew year-long hiatuses were "a thing" and weren't sure if HxH was ever gonna come back. when you see which chapter 260 is, you'll know just how painful this was)
270-271 (<half a year)
280-281 (half a year)
290-291 (1 year)
310-311 (>1 year)
340-now
You can see there's an uplifting trend of more chapters per batch lately.
brotkasten
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While he's clearly entertaining, he's also keeping me as far away from this manga as possible.
Yeah. Don't see the problem with that.
RepairmanJack
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It's hard to say without spoilers...
Basically man made animals.
Like I said, most of the explanations can just be looked past.
The repeating "is this series for real" questions and the returning "god's beard is being guy-man" answers kind of ruin the illusion though!
"God's Beard!"
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It's about the suspension of disbelief. You can say man-made monsters and I'm fine with that. But you say man-made monsters were created by leprechauns and rainbow fuel gathered by secret nazi cults in atlantis and I begin to have some problems.
By the way, that last part was an exaggeration.
By the way, that last part was an exaggeration.
Neoriceisgood
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Just for clarity: Is this another frozen poop example, or did they actually say this?
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Eh, it's not that bad. It's fanservice-laden which is honestly the worst part of the manga (since it kind of takes away from the survival drama when boobs occur) but the rest is stuff you can look past.
Frozen poop.
Though, I'd be down for some leprechaun rainbow-empowered nazi dinosaurs.
Yeah, that was the dog, the most clever character in the whole manga. I guess I'll put CoE at the top of the
"I'm on the mood for a shitty manga"-
"God's Beard!"
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Cage of Eden story formula:
Create a situation -> Establish information -> Immediately contradict information -> Sabretooth Tigers
Create a situation -> Establish information -> Immediately contradict information -> Sabretooth Tigers
Neoriceisgood
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What's more predictable? Cage of Eden or Fairy Tail?
BassForever
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Jeebus o.o
One Piece Film - Strong World
Yeah okay, that was pretty good. It's certainly not as epic or complex as most of the manga story arcs, but as a relatively stand alone "big deal" movie project, I think it delivers pretty well. It's clear a lot of the movie was conceptualized based on what would be visually exciting, with a lot of cool stuff packed into a 2 hour movie runtime. Instead of developing a more complex multi-layered arc which works for a manga medium, here it's a very clear cut "save the world" setting with a simple objective and a rather basic but visually interesting setting.
One thing I really loved about the movie is how it totally nails the feeling that the movie is set after the Strawhat crew is really established as 300% certified badasses. There's a tone throughout the film that they're super strong, and super confident. There's no sense that they doubt each other or are relatively noob pirates like the earlier parts of the manga. That scene with them marching into the meeting room was soooo perfect. Plus, Luffy looks fucking great in a suit.
Having read about 260 chapters of One Piece in the past week though, I'll say that as a villain Shiki is really quite a let down. It's hard to imagine him being that much of a threat to the group after all the shit they survived in Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. I was sort of hoping that towards the end there would be some twists to make it more dangerous, but I guess that wasn't within the scope of the movie.
Still, it was a fun ride with good action and lots of cool "One Piece" scenes. Good comedy, solid action, great posing, and the predictable but awesome transition from silly Luffy to serious badass Luffy. This might not be a particularly strong story emotionally nor is there much of the Oda magic in the narrative, but in terms of tone and execution, it definitely felt like a "movie" as opposed to a TV special or long TV episode.
P.S. Toei's CG ships are godawful. They stick out like a sore thumb and the texturing is really ugly. Ugh. Lol. Also, this movie really shafted Nico Robin. She had almost NOTHING to do aside from some background stuff. Didn't even have a solid action scene to herself. Meh!
Baron Omatsuri vs Strong World comparison
I guess now that I've seen this, I can finally compare it with the only other One Piece movie I was interested in enough to watch - Mamoru Hosoda's movie about Baron Omatsuri. In terms of "One Piece"-ness, I definitely agree that this is much closer to what One Piece represents in the manga, and there are better fights, and more cohesive flavor in terms of fitting into the world of the manga. But artistically in terms of making a beautiful and unique film, Hosoda still wins.
Yeah okay, that was pretty good. It's certainly not as epic or complex as most of the manga story arcs, but as a relatively stand alone "big deal" movie project, I think it delivers pretty well. It's clear a lot of the movie was conceptualized based on what would be visually exciting, with a lot of cool stuff packed into a 2 hour movie runtime. Instead of developing a more complex multi-layered arc which works for a manga medium, here it's a very clear cut "save the world" setting with a simple objective and a rather basic but visually interesting setting.
One thing I really loved about the movie is how it totally nails the feeling that the movie is set after the Strawhat crew is really established as 300% certified badasses. There's a tone throughout the film that they're super strong, and super confident. There's no sense that they doubt each other or are relatively noob pirates like the earlier parts of the manga. That scene with them marching into the meeting room was soooo perfect. Plus, Luffy looks fucking great in a suit.
Having read about 260 chapters of One Piece in the past week though, I'll say that as a villain Shiki is really quite a let down. It's hard to imagine him being that much of a threat to the group after all the shit they survived in Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. I was sort of hoping that towards the end there would be some twists to make it more dangerous, but I guess that wasn't within the scope of the movie.
Still, it was a fun ride with good action and lots of cool "One Piece" scenes. Good comedy, solid action, great posing, and the predictable but awesome transition from silly Luffy to serious badass Luffy. This might not be a particularly strong story emotionally nor is there much of the Oda magic in the narrative, but in terms of tone and execution, it definitely felt like a "movie" as opposed to a TV special or long TV episode.
P.S. Toei's CG ships are godawful. They stick out like a sore thumb and the texturing is really ugly. Ugh. Lol. Also, this movie really shafted Nico Robin. She had almost NOTHING to do aside from some background stuff. Didn't even have a solid action scene to herself. Meh!
Baron Omatsuri vs Strong World comparison
I guess now that I've seen this, I can finally compare it with the only other One Piece movie I was interested in enough to watch - Mamoru Hosoda's movie about Baron Omatsuri. In terms of "One Piece"-ness, I definitely agree that this is much closer to what One Piece represents in the manga, and there are better fights, and more cohesive flavor in terms of fitting into the world of the manga. But artistically in terms of making a beautiful and unique film, Hosoda still wins.
"God's Beard!"
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Fairy Tail by default. Even if the overall story is completely transparent, Cage of Eden's moment-to-moment happenings are so bewildering that I'm shocked at every page turn. Right now I'm waiting to see how everyone decides to forgive a group of attempted gang-rapists.
You are the best person. I always really liked SW and felt like I was alone in the cruel world.One Piece Film - Strong World
Yeah okay, that was pretty good. It's certainly not as epic or complex as most of the manga story arcs, but as a relatively stand alone "big deal" movie project, I think it delivers pretty well. It's clear a lot of the movie was conceptualized based on what would be visually exciting, with a lot of cool stuff packed into a 2 hour movie runtime. Instead of developing a more complex multi-layered arc which works for a manga medium, here it's a very clear cut "save the world" setting with a simple objective and a rather basic but visually interesting setting.
One thing I really loved about the movie is how it totally nails the feeling that the movie is set after the Strawhat crew is really established as 300% certified badasses. There's a tone throughout the film that they're super strong, and super confident. There's no sense that they doubt each other or are relatively noob pirates like the earlier parts of the manga. That scene with them marching into the meeting room was soooo perfect. Plus, Luffy looks fucking great in a suit.
Having read about 260 chapters of One Piece in the past week though, I'll say that as a villain Shiki is really quite a let down. It's hard to imagine him being that much of a threat to the group after all the shit they survived in Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. I was sort of hoping that towards the end there would be some twists to make it more dangerous, but I guess that wasn't within the scope of the movie.
Still, it was a fun ride with good action and lots of cool "One Piece" scenes. Good comedy, solid action, great posing, and the predictable but awesome transition from silly Luffy to serious badass Luffy. This might not be a particularly strong story emotionally nor is there much of the Oda magic in the narrative, but in terms of tone and execution, it definitely felt like a "movie" as opposed to a TV special or long TV episode.
P.S. Toei's CG ships are godawful. They stick out like a sore thumb and the texturing is really ugly. Ugh. Lol. Also, this movie really shafted Nico Robin. She had almost NOTHING to do aside from some background stuff. Didn't even have a solid action scene to herself. Meh!
Baron Omatsuri vs Strong World comparison
I guess now that I've seen this, I can finally compare it with the only other One Piece movie I was interested in enough to watch - Mamoru Hosoda's movie about Baron Omatsuri. In terms of "One Piece"-ness, I definitely agree that this is much closer to what One Piece represents in the manga, and there are better fights, and more cohesive flavor in terms of fitting into the world of the manga. But artistically in terms of making a beautiful and unique film, Hosoda still wins.
Neoriceisgood
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Yeah, the costume design was really awesome. They had a bunch of different outfits too. Lol. Oda was probably just drawing shit for the movie all day and treating it as vacation time. Did he take time off from the manga while making Strong World?
Yeah, One Piece was taking breaks all over the place during SW's production.
I guess since he wrote it.
One Piece Film - Strong World
Yeah okay, that was pretty good. It's certainly not as epic or complex as most of the manga story arcs, but as a relatively stand alone "big deal" movie project, I think it delivers pretty well. It's clear a lot of the movie was conceptualized based on what would be visually exciting, with a lot of cool stuff packed into a 2 hour movie runtime. Instead of developing a more complex multi-layered arc which works for a manga medium, here it's a very clear cut "save the world" setting with a simple objective and a rather basic but visually interesting setting.
One thing I really loved about the movie is how it totally nails the feeling that the movie is set after the Strawhat crew is really established as 300% certified badasses. There's a tone throughout the film that they're super strong, and super confident. There's no sense that they doubt each other or are relatively noob pirates like the earlier parts of the manga. That scene with them marching into the meeting room was soooo perfect. Plus, Luffy looks fucking great in a suit.
Having read about 260 chapters of One Piece in the past week though, I'll say that as a villain Shiki is really quite a let down. It's hard to imagine him being that much of a threat to the group after all the shit they survived in Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. I was sort of hoping that towards the end there would be some twists to make it more dangerous, but I guess that wasn't within the scope of the movie.
Still, it was a fun ride with good action and lots of cool "One Piece" scenes. Good comedy, solid action, great posing, and the predictable but awesome transition from silly Luffy to serious badass Luffy. This might not be a particularly strong story emotionally nor is there much of the Oda magic in the narrative, but in terms of tone and execution, it definitely felt like a "movie" as opposed to a TV special or long TV episode.
P.S. Toei's CG ships are godawful. They stick out like a sore thumb and the texturing is really ugly. Ugh. Lol. Also, this movie really shafted Nico Robin. She had almost NOTHING to do aside from some background stuff. Didn't even have a solid action scene to herself. Meh!
I still feel like Shiki was downplayed, which doesn't seem so far-fetched given that this was a movie.
Excellent, but movie 6 still remains to be da be-
Baron Omatsuri vs Strong World comparison
I guess now that I've seen this, I can finally compare it with the only other One Piece movie I was interested in enough to watch - Mamoru Hosoda's movie about Baron Omatsuri. In terms of "One Piece"-ness, I definitely agree that this is much closer to what One Piece represents in the manga, and there are better fights, and more cohesive flavor in terms of fitting into the world of the manga. But artistically in terms of making a beautiful and unique film, Hosoda still wins.
It was like a mini-Water 7 arc. It's nice and sad to see the crew in conflict with one another once in a while.
Can't wait for your other impressions.
RepairmanJack
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These HxH and One Piece impressions are really making me want to reread them. I plan on catching up on Magi first though.
I don't remember for sure, but.. was that time Oda took a break immediately after Jump's new years break(s), because of SW-related circumstances?
Because, um. I sure didn't like that one.
What nonsense is this?
Neoriceisgood
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Baron Omatsuri was the only movie that actually felt better than the actual series at times, it was flat out dark and horroesque in some parts.
Love it.
He's got protagonist hax man.
Love it.
He's got protagonist hax man.
I can see why people following the manga weekly might be pissed if Oda took lots of breaks just to make Strong World, lol. It's not much of a replacement for not having new chapters, but as a movie it's pretty entertaining. It's clear that he put a lot of effort into the design of the movie though. There are a ton of trademark Oda stuff in the film, and none of it feels particularly recycled. Very visually refreshing. Hopefully One Piece Film Z is as good, or better.
Well he did make the Chapter 0 prelude to the movie which was published alongside a normal chapter in the same issue. That was super cool of him.
UNLIKE A CERTAIN OTHER WORCESTERSHIRE MAN WHOSE SERIES SOMEONE ELSE IS MARATHONING ON THIS PAGE
WHO STILL DIDN'T COME BACK FROM CAPS L- I MEAN HIATUS
Op Movie 6 Baron Matsuri was written by Masahiro ITOU it was a very obvious spin on the Davy back fight Arc as the movie came out just a year & half after the arc, during the Enis lobby arc.
I read it before I watched the movie. It was... okay I guess. Pretty much just a marketing plug for the movie. I liked the way Oda handled the "while this was happening" scenes all throughout East Blue and the Grand Line though. That was pretty neat. Otherwise it doesn't really add much, since Shiki still felt like a scrub imo.
Oh, that makes perfect sense then, thanks. If the movie came out a year or so after that arc ran in the manga, I can see how it's a homage. The movie is much better though. Long Ring sucked balls.
"God's Beard!"
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Why would an interrogator ask questions about something only the captive would know to determine if they're telling the truth?
"How many toilets were on your floor in your building?"
"...f-four?"
"Damn, he must be telling the truth."
"How many toilets were on your floor in your building?"
"...f-four?"
"Damn, he must be telling the truth."
BassForever
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All of your impressions make me want to read Cage of Eden even though it sounds pretty awful
"God's Beard!"
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*determine that the doctor was a fake and was making shit up*
*still uses his advice to determine the necessary tools and type of surgery*
*established early that they have a spool of thread for sutures*
*asks for a girls' hair to use as thread despite taking the needle from the sewing kit*
*still uses his advice to determine the necessary tools and type of surgery*
*established early that they have a spool of thread for sutures*
*asks for a girls' hair to use as thread despite taking the needle from the sewing kit*
Neoriceisgood
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... The hell?
That's the sort of reverse logic I'd expect from a One Piece joke character. (with hilarious Usopp & Nami shark teeth reactions to boot!) Not as a serious plot point.
One Piece Film - Strong World
Yeah okay, that was pretty good. It's certainly not as epic or complex as most of the manga story arcs, but as a relatively stand alone "big deal" movie project, I think it delivers pretty well. It's clear a lot of the movie was conceptualized based on what would be visually exciting, with a lot of cool stuff packed into a 2 hour movie runtime. Instead of developing a more complex multi-layered arc which works for a manga medium, here it's a very clear cut "save the world" setting with a simple objective and a rather basic but visually interesting setting.
One thing I really loved about the movie is how it totally nails the feeling that the movie is set after the Strawhat crew is really established as 300% certified badasses. There's a tone throughout the film that they're super strong, and super confident. There's no sense that they doubt each other or are relatively noob pirates like the earlier parts of the manga. That scene with them marching into the meeting room was soooo perfect. Plus, Luffy looks fucking great in a suit.
Having read about 260 chapters of One Piece in the past week though, I'll say that as a villain Shiki is really quite a let down. It's hard to imagine him being that much of a threat to the group after all the shit they survived in Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. I was sort of hoping that towards the end there would be some twists to make it more dangerous, but I guess that wasn't within the scope of the movie.
Still, it was a fun ride with good action and lots of cool "One Piece" scenes. Good comedy, solid action, great posing, and the predictable but awesome transition from silly Luffy to serious badass Luffy. This might not be a particularly strong story emotionally nor is there much of the Oda magic in the narrative, but in terms of tone and execution, it definitely felt like a "movie" as opposed to a TV special or long TV episode.
P.S. Toei's CG ships are godawful. They stick out like a sore thumb and the texturing is really ugly. Ugh. Lol. Also, this movie really shafted Nico Robin. She had almost NOTHING to do aside from some background stuff. Didn't even have a solid action scene to herself. Meh!
I really enjoyed the movie myself but found shiki demise disappointing and unOne piece.
You should check out Movie 9 Episode of chopper.
"God's Beard!"
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*asks if the surgery will go well*
*uses trepanation, one of the most horrifying and dangerous medical procedures, as an example of successful primitive surgery*
*uses trepanation, one of the most horrifying and dangerous medical procedures, as an example of successful primitive surgery*
So what you're saying is that I need to read cage of eden?
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