Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You mean that Ichigo's dad is Aizen?
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You mean that Ichigo's dad is Aizen?
Psychological Intellect
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Naruto
I just wanna telll you guys that mysticwhip said I told you so!
I just wanna telll you guys that mysticwhip said I told you so!
TacticalFox88
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Oda trying to write checks his manga can't cash, as per usual
gundamkyoukai
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How a manga read each week don't mean anything to tell the truth .
Most readers read stuff in Vol format anyway .
Most readers read stuff in Vol format anyway .
Fidelis Hodie
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I think it's half and half, honestly. If it's a weekly series, it should be able to be read weekly and still engage, enthrall and entice. But, if it doesn't, then that's when volume/ marathon style reads can really help the pacing.
gundamkyoukai
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Infinite Justice
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Ostensibly, because he wanted to get revenge on the Leaf Village for ordering his brother to murder the rest of his clan. Sasuke's apparently super fucking gullible and doesn't investigate anything.
But he didn't go insane after learning the truth. The Killer Bee fight happened after he learned the truth and he actually awakened Amaterasu in that fight to HELP his allies. Then he suddenly goes nuts at the Kage Summit for no reason.
Crash Station
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Tripeace end
Yeah, this was a rushed ending. There was no real final boss and only one major conflict arc. At least Nana arrived at a reasonable answer.
Good series. I see the guy hasn't done anything else, but I'll check out his next series if he ever does one.
Yeah, this was a rushed ending. There was no real final boss and only one major conflict arc. At least Nana arrived at a reasonable answer.
Good series. I see the guy hasn't done anything else, but I'll check out his next series if he ever does one.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm betting that Karin's running a long con. That, or she's written worse than Sakura.
Because Danzo was there, apparently, but a better argument is that his Mangekyo gives him brain problems. See, three chapters ago.
Because Danzo was there, apparently, but a better argument is that his Mangekyo gives him brain problems. See, three chapters ago.
Vagabond:
I was trying to word my post carefully so that I didn't give the impression that I just wanted to see more hacking and slashing, but anyway I don't have an issue with the farming, it's the slowness/pacing of it that has gotten dull. But I don't think I'm going to get much of a discussion on this, particularly on Jump Wednesday.
Naruto 627:
I actually haven't been reading Naruto since the 400 chapters, but all this talk about Sasuke switching sides had me curious, so I decided to just read this one to see what happened. I won't comment on the chapter since I have no idea what's been going on outside of the weekly thread comments, but I understand why people are upset, as Sasuke changing his mind without Naruto around, after all Naruto did to change his mind, is a huge let down.
One Piece 705:
Bartolomeo =/= Bartholomew had me confused for a bit. I thought maybe Bartholomew got a new robot body or something until they revealed he was a rookie.
Still way too much going on/characters being tossed into this arc, but at least we got the blind swordsman revealed as the Admiral like most of us guessed (still not getting the theme, unless others are right that he was retired and actually is supposed to be grouped with another set of three). And maybe Franky will get what he needs to know about the secret lab.
Anyone have any idea what's going on in the current One Piece cover stories? I mean besides Caribou traveling all over the place?
I was trying to word my post carefully so that I didn't give the impression that I just wanted to see more hacking and slashing, but anyway I don't have an issue with the farming, it's the slowness/pacing of it that has gotten dull. But I don't think I'm going to get much of a discussion on this, particularly on Jump Wednesday.
Naruto 627:
I actually haven't been reading Naruto since the 400 chapters, but all this talk about Sasuke switching sides had me curious, so I decided to just read this one to see what happened. I won't comment on the chapter since I have no idea what's been going on outside of the weekly thread comments, but I understand why people are upset, as Sasuke changing his mind without Naruto around, after all Naruto did to change his mind, is a huge let down.
One Piece 705:
Bartolomeo =/= Bartholomew had me confused for a bit. I thought maybe Bartholomew got a new robot body or something until they revealed he was a rookie.
Still way too much going on/characters being tossed into this arc, but at least we got the blind swordsman revealed as the Admiral like most of us guessed (still not getting the theme, unless others are right that he was retired and actually is supposed to be grouped with another set of three). And maybe Franky will get what he needs to know about the secret lab.
Anyone have any idea what's going on in the current One Piece cover stories? I mean besides Caribou traveling all over the place?
If we're blaming the sharingan for brain problems, then we go back to why did Itachi's explanation not sway Sasuske but Harashima's explanation did.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Its not different from what I just told Wiseblade. Itachi intentionally didn't tell him anything and just said "do whatever you want." Let's not forget that Itachi made a shitload of really poor decisions.
Infinite Justice
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But Obito told Sasuke everything, or at least enough. He found out Itachi was quite the cold hearted traitor he assumed and the Village was priority number one. So to honour the memory of his brother... he vows to destroy the village?
What do you mean, it's his story after all. The latest development suggests that he was stranded on one of Kaidou's islands, maybe the same where X Drake started a fight with of of Kaidou's subordinates because the same subordinate is appearing here. There seems to be a sort of rebellion against Kaidou (?) one the island and the rebel leader is someone named Gaburu, who looks a lot like Caribou.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Except being told that Itachi did it for the village doesn't mean he had any conceptual understanding of what the village meant to Itachi. His understanding was that Danzo and the Elders simply instructed him to kill all of his clan because it was his duty.
BassForever
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Naruto
While I'm glad Sasuke FINALLY got his head out of his ass and is going to help, I'm not buying the flash back was the reason that made him change. I would be more stoked for the 4 hokages + Sasuke, Orochimaru and co joining the battle if we hadn't just seen what looked like Naruto and Rock Lee finishing off Medara and Obito.
Bleach
I enjoyed this chapter, Aizen and Urahara make everything better. Flash back is helping to show how a Shinigami and a Quincy could give up everything they've trained for love.
One Piece
Hopefully the next few chapters will focus more on 1-2 plot threads as opposed to this 2-3 pages per group style. I don't mind the occasional "here is where everyone is now" chapters they suck in a week to week format but work well in a bulk reading.
While I'm glad Sasuke FINALLY got his head out of his ass and is going to help, I'm not buying the flash back was the reason that made him change. I would be more stoked for the 4 hokages + Sasuke, Orochimaru and co joining the battle if we hadn't just seen what looked like Naruto and Rock Lee finishing off Medara and Obito.
Bleach
I enjoyed this chapter, Aizen and Urahara make everything better. Flash back is helping to show how a Shinigami and a Quincy could give up everything they've trained for love.
One Piece
Hopefully the next few chapters will focus more on 1-2 plot threads as opposed to this 2-3 pages per group style. I don't mind the occasional "here is where everyone is now" chapters they suck in a week to week format but work well in a bulk reading.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
The thing that's changed from then to now is Sasuke's motivation. His whole life was revenge, trying to kill Itachi. Once he found out the truth, realized what he had done, he probably overcompensated for killing Itachi, and replaced his super-hate with super-love. "It's the village's fault he's dead!" He was obsessed with his brother, the fact that Itachi loved the village enough to sacrifice himself reads to Sasuke as: "the village forced him to do this." He still doesn't know how to do anything other than enact revenge on things at this point, it's been his entire driving force for years, so he points himself at the village.
I mean it's a shitty situation right there, it's hard to admit that you just killed the guy you thought was a villain after you learn he was the hero. Especially when he's your brother, and did everything for your sake. It's hard to take responsibility for what you've done, so something else has to take the blame. With Tobi there manipulating that whole story, Konoha becomes the scapegoat.
Vs Bee, there's no real target there to hate. Once the Kage summit comes around though, and there's a clear target associated with his brother's demise, he finally gives in to his emotional shit, and via the documented "emotions of loss give the Uchiha their brain powers" explanation, he grows a Susanoo, and goes a little crazy in the process. "The curse of the Uchiha."
Edo-Itachi probably eases the pain of "I killed my brother" a bit. It's a little easier to deal with when suddenly he's sorta not dead. Through their conversations, he starts to come to terms with the idea that Konoha wasn't to "blame" for Itachi's actions, but rather that Itachi made that choice for himself. Edo-Hashirama solidifies that notion, that "a ninja" is someone who does anything for the sake of of their dream, does anything to protect what they feel they must protect. He comes to terms with the notion that it was Itachi who made the decision, that Konoha was worth protecting, that it wasn't a matter of blaming someone for what happened to him.
There are some points in all this that seem pretty abrupt and weird, but I think when you go through it all in sequence like this, it makes a little more sense as an overall arc.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Itachi sacrificing his clan either because he loved the village or because the village ordered him to could both be filed under "the village made him do it," but they aren't the same thing.
This is taking the point too deep though. The only relevant point from that story was that Itachi, like Hashirama loved the village and what it stood for more than he loved his kinsmen and he wasn't going to let it be destroyed just to appease them.
This is taking the point too deep though. The only relevant point from that story was that Itachi, like Hashirama loved the village and what it stood for more than he loved his kinsmen and he wasn't going to let it be destroyed just to appease them.
Big 3
Another solid week. Surprising revelation from Sasuke. Also still really loving the intro + caption thing Oda does for characters, as well as having fodder/crowds on the side acknowledge them, Burgess especially. It's the kind of thing that actually makes me give a shit about the side characters.
Also, I was under the impression that Itachi didn't give a shit about the village, but really only more about Sasuke.
Another solid week. Surprising revelation from Sasuke. Also still really loving the intro + caption thing Oda does for characters, as well as having fodder/crowds on the side acknowledge them, Burgess especially. It's the kind of thing that actually makes me give a shit about the side characters.
Also, I was under the impression that Itachi didn't give a shit about the village, but really only more about Sasuke.
Surely Sasuske would have got the hint of what the village meant to Itachi when he slaughtered every single person in his clan, parents included.
He knew it was because his dad was planning a coup.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not following what the argument is here. Elaborate?
Not necessarily. This conclusion requires a lot of inferences. As far as he knew, Itachi did it just for Sasuke himself and not because he valued the village.
"My dad was going to start a civil war, so my brother killed him. The village and I meant more to my brother than anything in the world... So I'll honour his memory by destroying the village!"
Rebel Leader
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Triprace 43 (end?)
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FUCK THIS SHIT. Just when it got good too
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FUCK THIS SHIT. Just when it got good too
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
As noted, Sasuke was not interested in honoring any memories back then. He was pissed, and wanted someone to blame. Tobi helped him along.
You mean the guy who told Sasuke he wasn't to be trusted?
Sir Ilpalazzo
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The CP0 thing kind of made me groan. CP9 gets all that buildup and focus, and then an even stronger group just pops out of nowhere? It feels cheap to me.
BassForever
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I didn't get the impression CP0 was more powerful, it seems like they're more the brains or the information gatherers. Maybe the better translation will clear that up
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Can't help ya there. Point is, he believed it. Had a little doubt, but managed wash that away via talking to Danzo. Sasuke was "an avenger," it's all he knew how to do. Tobi just pointed him at something else. Took him a long time to learn how to think for himself, and not just want to kill everything he blamed for his shitty life.
Dedication Through Light
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No one watched the toriko x one piece x dbz 40 or so minute special?
BassForever
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No one watched the toriko x one piece x dbz 40 or so minute special?
Yeah I did, posted my impressions in the OP thread, I enjoyed it though it's pretty much what I expected.
You are missing out man. We might seem like old bitter cynical jaded folks, but we are all having the fun of our life time every week in here.
BassForever
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So I'm just reread the chapters with the better translation and on my computer (aka not on my phone) and while my opinions on OP and Bleach stay the same my opinion on this weeks Naruto improved quiet a bit
Naruto
Honestly I can see this being the reason Sasuke finally switches now, obviously Karin is still dumb but as Orochimaru says "just go with the flow at this point". I'm still interested in what role Orochimaru is going to play in the end but maybe he truly has had a change of heart like Sasuke. Also the four Kage's about to join the battle is pretty hype, though as I said earlier I thought the battle was almost won so I guess I missed something lol.
Naruto
Honestly I can see this being the reason Sasuke finally switches now, obviously Karin is still dumb but as Orochimaru says "just go with the flow at this point". I'm still interested in what role Orochimaru is going to play in the end but maybe he truly has had a change of heart like Sasuke. Also the four Kage's about to join the battle is pretty hype, though as I said earlier I thought the battle was almost won so I guess I missed something lol.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
ALSO, if there's anyone who'd know how to manipulate an Uchiha, it'd be Madara (through Tobi). They react very fiercely when faced with people who challenge their family and bonds. Hashirama (or was it Tobirama?) was pretty clear on that, that the Uchiha were the ones who really inherited the "love" from the rikudou-sennin, so strongly that when they lose it, they go total psycho. Again, "the curse of the Uchiha." Knowing that, how does one go ahead and get Sasuke to do what you want after he kills his brother? Tell him "the truth" (while conveniently omitting the part where you're the one who summoned the ninetails). There's no way an immature and grief-stricken Uchiha wouldn't snap directly into revenge mode from that story.
brotkasten
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For you, the day you caught up to Nana to Kaoru was the most important day of your life. For us, it was Wednesday.
brotkasten
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I really don't. :lol It took me 5 minutes to find an appropriate gif and that's all google showed me.
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