Marathon Releases September 23, 2025

HeisenbergFX4 said:
I want a new experience so I am not killing the game over what I saw though I did over how they want to keep pricing a secret

But so many red flags (just saw you mentioned alpha under NDA as well) that are a cause for concern
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I liked what I saw but the messaging is very confusing. Seems like they built a hardcore PVP extraction shooter but are trying to sell it to the mainstream.

The Masses will come if the game is decent. See POE2 or BG3, you don't get more hardcore than that.
 
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Mibu no ookami said:
I think Helldivers looks awful, so what do I know about live service, but Marathon looks even worse and I think cynicism has only increased since then and there's a lot more hate targeting this game.
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The only people hating on the game are the same ones not interested in live service at all.

The impressions from playtesters is extremely positive

I don't see how this looks "worse" than pre release Helldivers 2.
 
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clarky said:
I liked what I saw but the messaging is very confusing. Seems like they built a hardcore PVP extraction shooter but are trying to sell it to the mainstream.

The Masses will come if the game is decent. See POE2 or BG3, you don't get more hardcore than that.
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I am for sure interesting in knowing more because nothing I saw personally said nope I am not playing that

I don't like hearing the maps are super small and you will get to know them fast, not for this type of game but will see how it plays out
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
The only people hating on the game are the same ones not interested in live service at all.

The impressions from playtesters is extremely positive

I don't see how this looks "worse" than pre release Helldivers 2.
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Most of the ones hating were the ones who acted as if games like Astro Bot, Indiana Jones and Avowed would sell millions out the gate, because 'reviews'.

It's going to be fun if this game will sell more than 5+M copies at release.
It's gonna get people in here mad af.
 
I think it's looks fine? I'll hold judgement until I see somebody like Jack or Drewski play it but ultimately until I actually play it myself.

That interim art style is so much better though.

I think the very harsh future art style is good but I wish it wasn't so blocky. Coming from somebody that loves Japanese style cyberpunk like GiTS and Appleseed I like it though. Reminds me of this game I've had wishlisted on Steam for fucking forever called Out of Action and of an old MP FPS that I used to play called Neotokyo just more colorful.

SJRB said:
Pretty sure you can play solo but if it's anything like Tarkov you can get ganked pretty hard.
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Yeah this is the problem. I assume it's gonna be like any other squad based MP shooter (PUBG, Warzone, Apex, Helldivers) where having your own group is better but you can get by on your own with matchmaking.

The bigger problem with Tarkov is similar to Destiny but for different reasons. It's just hard to get into as a new player unless you've been there since the beginning.

Also anybody that's ever wanted to get into Tarkov but didn't want to deal with the bullshit there is a single player mod but there's also a game by I think a Finnish indie dev called Road to Vostok that is great and essentially single player offline Tarkov.
 
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James Sawyer Ford said:
The only people hating on the game are the same ones not interested in live service at all.

The impressions from playtesters is extremely positive

I don't see how this looks "worse" than pre release Helldivers 2.
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It's not just people hating on gaas. A lot of Destiny players are really upset because Bungie chose to work on Marathon instead of more expansions of Destiny 2 or Destiny 3. Many Destiny gamers hate PvP

I think I'm going to really enjoy Marathon. I put 2000hrs into Apex Legends before burning out a couple years ago. I have been looking for a similar PvP experience that I can jump in and out of. Hands on impressions seem really good
 
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coachmcguirk91 said:
It's not just people hating on gaas. A lot of Destiny players are really upset because Bungie chose to work on Marathon instead of more expansions of Destiny 2 or Destiny 3. A lot Destiny gamers hate PvP
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A lot of Destiny gamers also loved PVP and abandoned the game when Bungie abandoned PVP.

More Destiny content is also coming so I'm not sure why you would be upset.
 
Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression, and certainly not enough positives to make up for that questionable reveal. Biggest take away is: there's no hook. Straight up. Bungie didn't innovate at all - it's literally identical to every other extraction shooter.

I will also say, seeing more extended hands on gameplay, I really hope this game was cheap to make because it sure looks like it was cheap to make. Everything looks flat and lifeless. Getting Cruelty Squad vibes from the UI design language. Not sure that level of visual noise is gonna gel with this kind of gameplay.

Launches in six months and will have six heroes, three small maps, no player on-boarding, no social space, paid cosmetics, seasonal battle passes, full seasonal wipes, and is a paid game instead of F2P. Best of luck. I'll bow out and let others enjoy.
 
ZehDon said:
Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression, and certainly not enough positives to make up for that questionable reveal. Biggest take away is: there's no hook. Straight up. Bungie didn't innovate at all - it's literally identical to every other extraction shooter.

I will also say, seeing more extended hands on gameplay, I really hope this game was cheap to make because it sure looks like it was cheap to make. Everything looks flat and lifeless. Getting Cruelty Squad vibes from the UI design language. Not sure that level of visual noise is gonna gel with this kind of gameplay.

Launches in six months and will have six heroes, three small maps, no player on-boarding, no Vsocial space, paid cosmetics, seasonal battle passes, full seasonal wipes, and is a paid game instead of F2P. Best of luck. I'll bow out and let others enjoy.
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Totally respect Skill up but he's a PVE Destiny player. Until we get Alpha impressions off real players the jury is out.
 
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ZehDon said:
Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression
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I don't get this take at all

He said that there's a lot to be positive about and lists them in the video. Explicitly says he's not being negative, just that there's a lot of unknowns.

But what we do know is he loves the art, loves the mechanics and controls, loves the extraction shooter vibe.

But spin it like he hates it lol, he doesn't
 
clarky said:
A lot of Destiny gamers also loved PVP and abandoned the game when Bungie abandoned PVP.

More Destiny content is also coming so I'm not sure why you would be upset.
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Man, you really like to argue for the sake of arguing. Any future updates to Destiny 2 will be smaller DLC'S. They are done making expansions. You are ignorant if you don't think developing and updating Marathon will take massive resources away from Destiny. Just go to any youtube video of Marathon and there are Destiny players upset about Marathon being PvP and not Destiny 3
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
Yeah this is the problem. I assume it's gonna be like any other squad based MP shooter (PUBG, Warzone, Apex, Helldivers) where having your own group is better but you can get by on your own with matchmaking.
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All the Marathon Youtuber's coverage I have seen admitted that Bungie really really do not want you to play this game solo.
And even after matchmaking, you know there will be nothing of the sort for their "Raid" level content.
 
coachmcguirk91 said:
Man, you really like to argue for the sake of arguing. Any future updates to Destiny 2 will be smaller DLC'S. They are done making expansions. You are ignorant if you don't think developing and updating Marathon will take massive resources away from Destiny. Just go to any youtube video of Marathon and there are Destiny players upset about Marathon being PvP and not Destiny 3
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2/3s of the studio is working on Destiny

It may not be the classical expansions but it isn't nothing
 
Overall I didn't get as excited as the Destiny reveal, Was hoping for a more innovative form of extraction shooter, but it seems pretty generic. They kept saying its a game changer but I didnt really see anything that was game changing. Love the artstyle, it really stands out. But I don't see how this can convince people that it is the definitive extraction shooter experience. I know Bungie will continue to evolve the game, it could be even more standout given the time but right now it seems pretty generic.
 
Gameplay is the only thing that can save this. But everything else is bland, tasteless (the artstyle!), soullness and made by a DEI comitee to hurt nobody's feelings. If those aren't humans (or barely) they can't be racist at anything they do, right?

Just reset western gaming at this point. Bring back some gritty Killzone SF MP. Shit I would still play this instead of this unappealing and generic product.
 
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coachmcguirk91 said:
Man, you really like to argue for the sake of arguing. Any future updates to Destiny 2 will be smaller DLC'S. They are done making expansions. You are ignorant if you don't think developing and updating Marathon will take massive resources away from Destiny. Just go to any youtube video of Marathon and there are Destiny players upset about Marathon being PvP and not Destiny 3
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Destiny is dying on its arse for various reasons. Look at TFS arguably the best expansion since Forsaken yet the player retention was horrific.

You want the whole studio making that game still? Its played out.

What would Destiny 3 even look like?
 
Physiognomonics said:
bland, tasteless (the artstyle!), soullness and made by a DEI comitee to hurt nobody's feelings
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James Sawyer Ford said:
I don't get this take at all... But spin it like he hates it lol, he doesn't
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I did no such thing. The video is literally titled "Marathon still has a long way to go (Hands-On Impressions)" and I said "Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression". If you watch the video, his final comments are basically: wait and see. For Bungie's big reveal of their next big game, that's... not thrilling. And when Skill Up says that he sees little reason anyone would play Marathon over the already existing extraction shooters because there's no innovation here... that's also not thrilling.
 
ZehDon said:
I did no such thing. The video is literally titled "Marathon still has a long way to go (Hands-On Impressions)" and I said "Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression". If you watch the video, his final comments are basically: wait and see. For Bungie's big reveal of their next big game, that's... not thrilling. And when Skill Up says that he sees little reason anyone would play Marathon over the already existing extraction shooters because there's no innovation here... that's also not thrilling.
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Skill Up does not play any PVP extraction shooters.
 
ZehDon said:
I did no such thing. The video is literally titled "Marathon still has a long way to go (Hands-On Impressions)" and I said "Oh boy, Skill Up doesn't paint a thrilling first impression". If you watch the video, his final comments are basically: wait and see. For Bungie's big reveal of their next big game, that's... not thrilling. And when Skill Up says that he sees little reason anyone would play Marathon over the already existing extraction shooters because there's no innovation here... that's also not thrilling.
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And what are we supposed to take from this?

It plays and looks great but he doesn't know if it has the hooks for long term retention but admits he has not seen the full game

Ok, wait and see, that doesn't mean anything bad
 
Men_in_Boxes said:
Any clips of the Recon class abilities?

This guy gives a pretty straightforward detail of the game...

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So it is hero based , but you have the ability to customize a heros load out and how they look. But your not making your own independent character......

See this is what I asked someone on this thread and they were adamant that it was going to be like destiny. Where we customize our character and choose the class and then build it up...

I'm sorry but that kills it for me. I think it looks good but that lack of character creation that's going to disappoint a lot of people.
 
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Wimbledon said:
So it is hero based , but you have the ability to customize a heros load out and how they look. But your not making your own independent character......

See this is what I asked someone on this thread and they were adamant that it was going to be like destiny. Where we customize our character and choose the class and then build it up...
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How is it not? Destiny is the same
 
Wimbledon said:
So it is hero based , but you have the ability to customize a heros load out and how they look. But your not making your own independent character......

See this is what I asked someone on this thread and they were adamant that it was going to be like destiny. Where we customize our character and choose the class and then build it up...
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But that's exactly what the reveal showed? Base skills then choose your abilities a la Destiny? Are Hunter Titan and Warlock not Heroes?
 
Extraction shooters are inherently sweaty.

I want Bungie working on hugely enjoyable, welcoming games that are a playground for simply running around and having fun.

This is not close to that.
 
clarky said:
Destiny is dying on its arse for various reasons. Look at TFS arguably the best expansion since Forsaken yet the player retention was horrific.

You want the whole studio making that game still? Its played out.

What would Destiny 3 even look like?
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I'm not a Destiny gamer. I tried to play a year ago, but was overwhelmed with the content and gave up. My point was many Destiny players like Destiny because of its PvE elements. Those gamers may not like the PvP focus of Marathon. If Marathon is successful, it will certainly limit the resources put towards Destiny in the future

Overall, pretty much every high profile gass game gets a bunch of hate before it's released. Even Destiny 1 had an extreme amount of skepticsm when it released. Bungie is very good at listening to feedback and improving their games. So even if Marathon isn't a massive success at launch, I think a lot of gamers will be patient enough to give them the time to iron things out
 
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clarky said:
Skill Up does not play any PVP extraction shooters.
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If Bungie cannot sell their new game to new players, they're exclusively reliant on genre natives - and Bungie haven't added anything new here to pull people away from the already existing ones. Why would I play this over Apex, for example? It has a price tag on it - I can't just dip my toes in and see.
James Sawyer Ford said:
And what are we supposed to take from this? ...Ok, wait and see, that doesn't mean anything bad
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Well, fellow sentient human, you decide what you take from that. That's literally why people create previews and gameplay footage montages - to help you decide. If you're starting to question the concept of previews because they're not glowing, you might need to step back for a bit. For me, it's all quite simple: this was Marathon's best foot forward. If Bungie's preview event for their new game, presented under the best possible conditions, leaves the people it specifically invited to said event largely underwhelmed, that's a big ole red flag for me. The footage looks underwhelming as it is, the stream was rough at best, and the repeated language in the previews coming out is pretty clear: this is just another extraction shooter, zero innovation. As I said before: I'm out and I'll leave it to others to enjoy. Based on your sheer volume of posts in this thread, you clearly have a vested interest in the game's success. So, I hope it delivers and you get a great game to enjoy. Based on what I've seen today, I suspect you might be in the minority, however.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
How is it not? Destiny is the same
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No I mean the character creation. You making your own character. This sounds like you are customizing a base hero character in other words a character that already exists in the game and then customizing around that character...like if played overwatch and customized a characters look.

Everyone vid is saying these are the heroes not saying class and you can customize that character/class.
 
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coachmcguirk91 said:
I'm not a Destiny gamer. I tried to play a year ago, but was overwhelmed with the content and gave up. My point was many Destiny players like Destiny because of its PvE elements. Those gamers may not like the PvP focus of Marathon. If Marathon is successful, it will certainly limit the resources put towards Destiny in the future

Overall, pretty much every high profile gass game gets a bunch of hate before it's released. Even Destiny 1 had an extreme amount of skepticsm when it released. Bungie is very good at listening to feedback and improving their games. So even if Marathon isn't a massive success at launch, I think a lot of gamers will be patient enough to give them the time to iron things out
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Wait you call me out for arguing for the sake of it yet you don't even play Destiny yet speak for all Destiny Players?

Behave.
 
clarky said:
But that's exactly what the reveal showed? Base skills then choose your abilities a la Destiny? Are Hunter Titan and Warlock not Heroes?
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No you know what I mean creating your own character HOW THEY LOOK. Im an awoken in destiny face, hair, eyes etc thats what I mean.
 
The more I watch the better it gets. Dynamic weather, foot prints in mud to track your enemies or for them to track you. All the hit detection particle effects. All the voices in game make me think of wip3out.

The enemy AI is also supposedly outstanding too

Lots to be excited about
 
clarky said:
Wait you call me out for arguing for the sake of it yet you don't even play Destiny yet speak for all Destiny Players?

Behave.
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I'm just speaking of where I'm seeing the negativity online. I never said I spoke for all Destiny players, lol. There are a lot of butthurt Destiny players, which is understandable
 
Killjoy-NL said:
I wonder how many people actually watched the creator alpha highlights towards the end of the stream (around 2:34:00), because the actual gameplay doesn't make it seem all that fast-paced at all.
Unless we have different definitions of fast-paced:
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I was out and about and can check out other stuff now. I'll definitely check this out.

I mean, fast-paced in terms of the speed one would consider fast paced is pretty subjective. But I figured the speed would be more or less the "Bungie standard", so something similar to Destiny and/or Halo. Which, for something like this could work. But I think a lot of people do like tension in their extraction shooters, and I'm sure a slower speed could help with that a lot. But of course, it's all just an observation from what I've seen so far. Gonna check out this clip and anything else if it exists. Thanks!
 
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EDMIX said:
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If this is the real reason behind some of the reactions to this games reveal, we'll wait to play it ourselves.

It seems real, objective opinions without bias can't be found with this type of thinking tbh
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What bias? I said the gameplay could save it, so yes we'll see. But I am entitled to my opinion about the unappealing stuff I have seen (I liked Destiny reveal BTW and I really liked its gameplay and artstyle back then so if bias it should be for this game's success).

I had about the same reaction after watching Concord trailer. Was I wrong?
 
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