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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)

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anaron

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Darkmakaimura

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im honestly surprised they never did another DD film, its not like the first one flopped and it was pretty entertaining imo
I thought it was terrible and boring. I saw the whole thing but I can't even remember anything about it other than Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin and somebody as Daredevil. In regards to these Netflix shows, I have a bad feeling about them. Jessica Jones is the only one who sounds somewhat interesting and even then, I never heard of her until recently. Seeing as all these are part of the MCU, I think they might want to slow down with Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter also around. This world may just get too cramped for its own good.
 
I thought it was terrible and boring. I saw the whole thing but I can't even remember anything about it other than Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin and somebody as Daredevil. In regards to these Netflix shows, I have a bad feeling about them. Jessica Jones is the only one who sounds somewhat interesting and even then, I never heard of her until recently. Seeing as all these are part of the MCU, I think they might want to slow down with Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter also around. This world may just get too cramped for its own good.

I think they've been very smart about the Netflix shows by keeping them focused on the street level characters. AoS's problem was that SHIELD should literally be involved in as much of the MCU as possible, jetsetting across the world and getting involved in everyone's business. The street level characters keep it focused in this bad area of NY, mostly dealing with street level criminals and the type of Marvel supervillains who are more likely to be robbing banks or assassinating people as opposed to trying to conquer the world. They're dealing with the type of threats that are at or just above the local police/FBI level, but not crazy enough to really justify SHIELD (or the Avengers) getting involved so it makes more sense for them to be not crossing paths so much with those people. In other words, they are their own corner of the MCU almost as segregated from the usual movie goings-on as the GotG are. Also, on Netflix they're afforded a lot more leeway with what they can get away with content wise. I don't expect them to get in to R rated territory, but I think we'll be seeing a darker side of the MCU here than anywhere else we've previously seen.
 

Ridley327

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im honestly surprised they never did another DD film, its not like the first one flopped and it was pretty entertaining imo

Fox tried, but they never were able to get anything off the ground. By the time they finally got a good vision for one (Joe Carahan wanted it to be a 70s cop thriller, but with Daredevil), the deadline came and Marvel got him back.
 

eastx

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I thought it was terrible and boring. I saw the whole thing but I can't even remember anything about it other than Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin and somebody as Daredevil. In regards to these Netflix shows, I have a bad feeling about them. Jessica Jones is the only one who sounds somewhat interesting and even then, I never heard of her until recently. Seeing as all these are part of the MCU, I think they might want to slow down with Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter also around. This world may just get too cramped for its own good.

I know you're kind of picky about these movies, but boring? The director's cut moves things along at a nice pace.

Matt and Foggy have a nice working relationship, and we get to see them investigate a case, which drives home Matt's unique profession as a lawyer. Jon Favreau nails it as Foggy, too. Matt's confession scenes make him relatable and human, and also differentiate him from other superheroes, who are generally non-religious.

Matt and Elektra have great chemistry together, though I know some viewers don't enjoy the romantic angle. I actually miss the additional romance scenes from the theatrical cut.

Bullseye's powers are interesting to watch on-screen, although he looks a bit silly and Colin Farrell hams it up too much.

The movie has its problems, such as making Matt's athletic powers too superhuman without proper explanation, Bullseye perhaps being too goofy, and Kingpin being needlessly tied in to Matt's origin. And even though Kingpin is decently intimidating, they didn't set him up as a credible enough threat for Daredevil in a one-on-one fight.

Still, I think you're being too hard on the film. The new series might have a different tone, but I don't expect it to be worlds different from the movie.
 

Pachimari

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I were of the impression that most people thought DareDevil was a train wreck and is watched upon as one of the biggest fiascos in superhero movie history.
 

SoilBreak

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Vincent D'Onofrio interview

"I mean the whole Marvel world is so huge," said D'Onofrio. "But I gotta tell you, I couldn’t be working for nicer people. I really am. I’m just having a great time. The whole -- the way that we’re shooting it, our Daredevil, everybody that’s in the show, is just going so well. Tonight we have a big fight scene that’s happening. It’s the first time you see my character do something physical."

In terms of the possibility of his character and the series crossing over into other Marvel products, D'Onofrio said, "I think they have some kind of plan. I’m not really allowed to discuss what the plan is, but they have a plan. I think the beginning of the plan is series stuff with Netflix, and then they have a bigger plan to branch out, but I wouldn’t be able to tell you specifically what that is."
 

Wazzy

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I can't. His DD looks so good. D:

Do you guys think he'll be in Avengers 3 along with the other tv show characters?
 

Slayven

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This kinda confirms what a lot of us had assumed, that they're gonna use the TV shows to set up more characters for the big Avengers-type event films. I bet we get more than just these four heroes in these four shows - there are a lot of other street-level characters that could conceivably pop up like Misty, Moon Knight, Punisher, etc.

D-man
 

No. Well...he would be ok.

My choice would be Omari Hardwick,
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Good looking enough, but can pull of "hard" when he needs to. Decent actor. Waaaay better than Terry imo.

Sorry, but about 10 years too late.
I know you're kind of picky about these movies, but boring? The director's cut moves things along at a nice pace.

The movie has its problems, such as making Matt's athletic powers too superhuman without proper explanation, Bullseye perhaps being too goofy, and Kingpin being needlessly tied in to Matt's origin. And even though Kingpin is decently intimidating, they didn't set him up as a credible enough threat for Daredevil in a one-on-one fight.

Still, I think you're being too hard on the film. The new series might have a different tone, but I don't expect it to be worlds different from the movie.

If we shouldn't expect better than this, after Iron Man 1, Batman...and every Marvel movie since Spiderman 2 (the original) then we don't deserve to have a Daredevil TV show. Hell, the ARROW series is way better than the director's cut of DD. Yeah, there are parts of the Directors cut that are gritty, and the cast is pretty spot on (except for Affleck not being nearly athletic enough to pull off a believable DD)...but EVERY superhero movie that's been released since Spiderman 2 is better than Daredevil (even the directors cut). The script was shite. The choreagraphy was shite. The camera work was shite.

Casting...A+

Seriously...anyone that would film that scene in the youtube clip and think it's acceptable for Matt Murdock...well, probably thinks Agents of Shield started off with a bang.

Daredevil is Marvel's Batman (well, that would actually be the Black Panther...but we know Hollywood is afraid to run with that one). This may be the only representation we see of DD on the small screen and I hope they take the character and source material way more seriously than the DD movie did.
 

Wazzy

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If we shouldn't expect better than this, after Iron Man 1, Batman...and every Marvel movie since Spiderman 2 (the original) then we don't deserve to have a Daredevil TV show. Hell, the ARROW series is way better than the director's cut of DD. Yeah, there are parts of the Directors cut that are gritty, and the cast is pretty spot on (except for Affleck not being nearly athletic enough to pull off a believable DD)...but EVERY superhero movie that's been released since Spiderman 2 is better than Daredevil (even the directors cut).

Seriously...anyone that would film that scene in the youtube clip and think it's acceptable for Matt Murdock...well, probably thinks Agents of Shield started off with a bang.

Daredevil is Marvel's Batman (well, that would actually be the Black Panther...but we know Hollywood is afraid to run with that one). This may be the only representation we see of DD on the small screen and I hope they take the character and source material way more seriously than the DD movie did.

I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing at the cheesyness of that scene and I mean that in a good way. It's so bad but I love it. I can see how it doesn't fit the character but oh my god.

I need to rewatch this film.
 
I were of the impression that most people thought DareDevil was a train wreck and is watched upon as one of the biggest fiascos in superhero movie history.
Same here.
Not that it was critically well received, but the response wasn't anything as hyperbolically bad as "one of the biggest fiascos in superhero movie history". You guys are forgetting shit like Catwoman and Batman & Robin. The response to Daredevil was more like "Meh". The Elektra movie on the other hand...
 

Darkmakaimura

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Not that it was critically well received, but the response wasn't anything as hyperbolically bad as "one of the biggest fiascos in superhero movie history". You guys are forgetting shit like Catwoman and Batman & Robin. The response to Daredevil was more like "Meh". The Elektra movie on the other hand...
Yeah, it might not have been as terrible as some other superhero movies. Green Lantern was certainly worse. But DD was forgettable and still a bad movie nonetheless.
 
Not that it was critically well received, but the response wasn't anything as hyperbolically bad as "one of the biggest fiascos in superhero movie history". You guys are forgetting shit like Catwoman and Batman & Robin. The response to Daredevil was more like "Meh". The Elektra movie on the other hand...

Thank god someone thought..."damn, we can make a movie based on a comic character and it can actually be good"

Daredevil was "meh" for it's time period. Since then people have figured out how to make "good" super hero movies.

It's bad by today's standard.
 

eastx

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If we shouldn't expect better than this, after Iron Man 1, Batman...and every Marvel movie since Spiderman 2 (the original) then we don't deserve to have a Daredevil TV show. Hell, the ARROW series is way better than the director's cut of DD. Yeah, there are parts of the Directors cut that are gritty, and the cast is pretty spot on (except for Affleck not being nearly athletic enough to pull off a believable DD)...but EVERY superhero movie that's been released since Spiderman 2 is better than Daredevil (even the directors cut). The script was shite. The choreagraphy was shite. The camera work was shite.

Casting...A+

Seriously...anyone that would film that scene in the youtube clip and think it's acceptable for Matt Murdock...well, probably thinks Agents of Shield started off with a bang.

Daredevil is Marvel's Batman (well, that would actually be the Black Panther...but we know Hollywood is afraid to run with that one). This may be the only representation we see of DD on the small screen and I hope they take the character and source material way more seriously than the DD movie did.

Yeah, like I said, the new show will probably land the tone a lot better than the movie did. Clearly you don't like the campy elements, and I can understand why someone wouldn't. I disagree that the script is bad - it works in tons of core and iconic Daredevil elements, it develops Matt and Elektra and gives them arcs, it spends time showing us what makes Matt different from other heroes, his problems outside of the uniform, etc. Although since they did a lot of reshoots, I don't think either version gets the flow just right.
 

Pachimari

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When is DareDevil supposed to premiere?

I thought it was this summer but confused it with the start of the filming.

Won't it premiere until 2015?
 
When is DareDevil supposed to premiere?

I thought it was this summer but confused it with the start of the filming.

Won't it premiere until 2015?

None of the Netflix [Phase 1] shows start till 2015.

Daredevil and Jessica Jones will probably be 2015, w/ Iron Fist, Luke Cage & The Defenders being in 2016.
 

number47

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everyone claim that dd might be shit or that due to the shitty movie,its gonna be bad.

MIND YOU no one had hope in captain america. yet burbakers winter solider arc knocked the cap franchise out of the park. ((or more or less started it for the modern era.))

so considering he was the same writer for daredevil and they ((marvel)) gave him a great arc ((shadowland)) ,they can do this.

if all else fails. it will be reverse criminal intent. lol
 
I wish they started this fall

But then they couldn't drop bread crumbs in Agents of SHIELD all season 2 and ride the Age of Ultron HYPE train for launching the new shows.

which leads me to wondering if Coulson and the team will make cameo appearances on any or all of the shows?
 

Wazzy

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I'm sure this has been posted before but I really like this concept art for the costume done by Chris Samnee. I hope the show's costume looks something like this.

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I'm so starved to see what the actual costume will look like. Hopefully we'll get a look soon.
 
I'm sure this has been posted before but I really like this concept art for the costume done by Chris Samnee. I hope the show's costume looks something like this.

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I'm so starved to see what the actual costume will look like. Hopefully we'll get a look soon.

I really like that. The Samnee art makes me like it even more.
 
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