BlackGhost
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I've only seen Krysten Ritter in breaking bad, so have to see her in the role of Jones before I approve.
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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)
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MHWilliams
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It helps, but it's not essential.
Honestly, the number of classic characters who's race is essential boils down to Captain America, Black Panther, and Shang Chi. You can play around with race in other characters without losing their core.
As an example, changing Cap's race requires a whole of host changes that would change the character - see Truth - but things like the fact that he's blonde and blue-eye just add thematic strength, they're not essential.
I think him being noticeably physically different is what makes him standout. Casting someone Asian doesn't add that.
edit: I think the thematic element is what makes the story stronger. Him being the second white Iron Fist after the first one is not favorably remembered (going by the Fraction/Brubaker run here) also adds to it.
MHWilliams
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Yes, as a different character. Steve Rogers has to be white for his origin to work. Edit: Removed unnecessary snark. Also Drake was Black Panther, which worked. Doesn't change the fact that T'Challa's race is rather set without completely changing the character.
I agree, just saying it's not essential.
BlackGhost
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Random sort of off topic question: I don't read the comics, but kinda want to get into them. Is there some kind of online subscription service ? Or easy way in?Right now, Captain America is a black man.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Marvel Comics Unlimited, which is like a comics Netflix. It's a year behind on current comics, though.
super-famicom
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Marvel Unlimited
Normally $9.99 monthly, but they just had a special deal for 0.75 a couple of weeks ago. Promos like these come up every now and then. But yeah, you don't get the latest comics; still a great way to explore different series.
Edit- beaten like thugs in Hell's Kitchen
jackissocool
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Agreed. What's essential is his rich kid upbringing and crazy dad. His race sort of complements the rich kid, but it's far from essential.
BlackGhost
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Thanks, I mignt check this out. Especially if the 0.75 deal is still active. And not worried about this being a year behind, because I've never read any comics. So I'm multiple years behind lol
super-famicom
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That promo is finished. They actually had gift codes for that price as well, and people figured out you could buy unlimited gift codes. Many people got a year's worth for less than $10!
Right now I think there's a buy 2 months for the price of 1 right now.
BlackGhost
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Ok thanks! I'll atleast try this out then.That promo is finished. They actually had gift codes for that price as well, and people figured out you could buy unlimited gift codes. Many people got a year's worth for less than $10!
Right now I think there's a buy 2 months for the price of 1 right now.
Right now, Captain America is a black man.
Captain america was also a psychotic neo nazi, and a sociopathitc drug user too. But they weren't Steve Rogers.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I wish we got some of that in Cap 3.
Jorok Goldblade
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Right now, Captain America is a black man.
Not the first time, but it results in an entirely different story.
A big screen version of Immortal Iron Fist would be tits.
It is made for it. Seriously Marvel is concentrating on the wrong IPs. Something like the Punisher belongs on TV. Iron Fist calls for a bigger budget.
Affeinvasion
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It's actually only six months behind so that's six months better at least.
They can do a whole history of captain americas. Here is all of them
1. Steve Rogers, 2. Spirit of '76 (William Naslund), 3. Patriot (Jeff Mace), 4. Grand Director ("Steven Rogers"), 5. Roscoe Simons, 6. Super-Patriot (John Walker)
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jackissocool
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Captain Falcon? Bucky? USAgent? Maybe the most recent Iron Patriot?
They can do a whole history of captain americas. Here is all of them
1. Steve Rogers, 2. Spirit of '76 (William Naslund), 3. Patriot (Jeff Mace), 4. Grand Director ("Steven Rogers"), 5. Roscoe Simons, 6. Super-Patriot (John Walker)
Isiah Bradley
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that Roscoe fella is all like "Heh, childs these days, hope the truck is OK in that parking lot"
You know...I hope they get Keanu Reeves as Iron Fist.
Apparently release date got leaked
Nice.
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so I assume the daredevil series takes place after or at the same time of Age of Ultron?
Father_Brain
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Apparently release date got leaked
I doubt it'd premiere the same day as AoU's US release (which is a week after it opens in Europe, granted, but don't Netflix originals premiere simultaneously worldwide?). More likely a placeholder.
Jest Chillin
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Despite them both being MCU, I can't see Daredevil releasing the same day as AoU possibly hurting AoU ticket sales.
This is a Netflix show. I don't think it matters at all. It can drop on the same day as Ultron, it can drop before AoS S2 ends, there's no difference. The entire season will be up for viewing whenever people want to watch it. It's not like they're fighting for ratings or anything.
Father_Brain
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Given the target audience, though, I'd say it at least matters for publicity purposes.
If Daredevil drops when Age of Ultron premieres, it'll most likely take place after the AoU events.
Or they can detach the events in the MCU completely from the Netflix shows.
Jest Chillin
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I think it would benefit the publicity of Daredevil actually, while not really effecting AoU for the same reasons that you've stated you can't see AoS effecting the movies much.
Average viewers will go out and see AoU, hopefully be pumped after watching it.. then when they log into Netflix.. oh look, Daredevil is up. More live action hero stuff!
I don't really see an issue. There isn't really a "target audience" clash because first of all Marvel stuff are basically for "everyone" to begin with. That's why they're so successful and popular. Secondly, for hardcore Marvel fans, it's a non-issue because people will watch AoU on opening day, and then they go home and watch more Daredevil immediately if that is indeed the release date.
For marketing, I can definitely see an aggressive simultaneous marketing campaign for AoU, AoS S2, and Daredevil leading into May.
- Marvel's Avengers Age of Ultron in cinemas
- Marvel's Daredevil exclusively on Netflix
- The stunning season finale of Marvel's Agents of SHIELD on ABC
etc.
For marketing, I can definitely see an aggressive simultaneous marketing campaign for AoU, AoS S2, and Daredevil leading into May.
- Marvel's Avengers Age of Ultron in cinemas
- Marvel's Daredevil exclusively on Netflix
- The stunning season finale of Marvel's Agents of SHIELD on ABC
etc.
Father_Brain
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Eh, maybe. I think they're much more likely to keep the marketing for those three things distinct than to launch a unified campaign centered around the overarching Marvel brand, especially as there's far more money to be made from AoU than the other two and the marketing for TV has generally been separate from films, with only occasional exceptions like the AoU trailer and the token SHIELD segment in the MCU special that aired on ABC earlier this year.
It's not that Daredevil wouldn't still do extremely well for Netflix even in that scenario; it's that AoU would take up so much of the finite media coverage available for Marvel that Daredevil would likely get less attention than it might otherwise. Why bother with that?
Jest Chillin
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Netflix series don't tend to get a lot of media coverage at first anyways. They usually grow through word of mouth from viewers first and only really catch media attention after they've been proven popular. Which is why House of Cards and Orange is the New Black have appeared far more in media than say, Lilyhammer or Hemlock Grove.
By the time Daredevil would grab media attention, AoU would likely have been out for a few weeks I'd think.
By the time Daredevil would grab media attention, AoU would likely have been out for a few weeks I'd think.
Father_Brain
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I saw a pretty major media blitz for Marco Polo. I figure they'd want something similar or bigger for a show based on an established brand and property, especially as it's just the start of a much bigger Marvel initiative for Netflix.
Jest Chillin
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Fair point. I guess it's wait and see.
Jorok Goldblade
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Daredevil's going to be the first MCU hero with a secret identity, isn't he? That will be interesting if AoU sets the stage for Civil War.
I still doubt Civil War will even be about identities.
Clint and Natasha had secret identities before Winter Soldier. Civil War will be about accountability, not secret identities.
Every DD fan is sniggering to themselves right now.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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