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Morris

Disco Devil
Dahbomb said:
And how the hell is he wave dashing with Doom? I think he is cancelling dash from normals and not doing the usual wave dash (2 ATK, down, 2 ATK). They were talking about plinking wave dashes which are faster than regular wave dash. Need to test this shit in the lab.
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I haven't seen him play lately (didn't watch the stream last night) so i'm not entirely sure about how true this is, but he's probably doing dash then sjc tri jump.
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Morro! said:
I haven't seen him play lately (didn't watch the stream last night) so i'm not entirely sure about how true this is, but he's probably doing dash then sjc tri jump.
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Maybe but he was doing it so fast it was so hard to tell.

Bummer that Maximillian dropped his Iron Man for Doom. I really liked that team, especially with the all black costumes. I am surprised there aren't that many good Iron Mans out there, he is totally a solid character.
 
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Karsticles

Member
FYI Maximilian, you can dash-cancel the sj.S in those corner footstomp combos. It doesn't really change the combo, but it makes the timing on the OTG less tight.
 
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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
Karsticles said:
FYI Maximilian, you can dash-cancel the sj.S in those corner footstomp combos. It doesn't really change the combo, but it makes the timing on the OTG less tight.
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Inteeeresting, I'll give it a shot. Thanks dood.
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Grifter said:
Doom can jump-cancel his dash and his air dash can be done really close to the ground. Combine the two for a wave dash.
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Yeah that seems like what he is doing, his second seemed to come off a bit off the ground. It's still sick how he does it at that speed.
 
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Grifter

Member
Dahbomb said:
Yeah that seems like what he is doing, his second seemed to come off a bit off the ground. It's still sick how he does it at that speed.
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I didn't see the stream, does he let the dash move forward a bit first? Jumping out of it immediately doesn't get real far.
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
I fell asleep before last night's Wednesday Night Fights was over, but between the stream archives and youtube I caught the rest this morning. What other weekly streams are there besides WNF? They mentioned something about a tournament that's on Mondays and another that's on Tuesdays but I didn't catch the name/URL for them.

Also I think I can retire my SF4 pad and just use my bat top/oct TE stick on this game from now on. This might be the first time I actually don't do worse at a game on a stick!
 
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DarkoMaledictus

Tier Whore
Dahbomb said:
LMAO @ the Healing field of Phoenix saving her from the mega Sentinel combo. That's the first time I have seen Phoenix survive a full Sentinel combo spanning 2 hypers. Her healing field pretty much entirely negated Plasma Field.

Clockwork may have lost that game but he probably learned something new. He has been upgrading his game with that team, all 3 characters of his were significantly better.

And how the hell is he wave dashing with Doom? I think he is cancelling dash from normals and not doing the usual wave dash (2 ATK, down, 2 ATK). They were talking about plinking wave dashes which are faster than regular wave dash. Need to test this shit in the lab.

Nice Chris play in the tournament by Combofiend. A lot of Magneto with Sentinel assist in this tournament though. People are getting the Magneto technology down now, resets, cross ups, mix ups, mini-ROMs... it was getting really MVC2 up in there.
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She actually has a lot of health if you activate healing field. Was fighting some guy online and she survived one of my full combos with the field active, pretty solid!
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
Nice Chris play in the tournament by Combofiend. A lot of Magneto with Sentinel assist in this tournament though. People are getting the Magneto technology down now, resets, cross ups, mix ups, mini-ROMs... it was getting really MVC2 up in there.
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Fortunately, Magneto still plays pretty different from what he was like in mvc2 and he's usually pretty fun to watch.
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
So for doing things like Magneto's air dash cancels, is using the buttons for the dash better than using the stick, or is it just a preference thing?
 
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Prototype-03

Member
Lost Fragment said:
So for doing things like Magneto's air dash cancels, is using the buttons for the dash better than using the stick, or is it just a preference thing?
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The buttons. Always the buttons. On the ground, you want to use buttons so you can wave dash better too.
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

Member
Wow. I just got Jill and Shuma last night and I got to say they are fucking great! Jill especially. Lots of speed and full screen rushdown with her. Her x-factor speed is competitive with X-23 for speed blasting and with her QCB hyper on top of that X-factor it makes her so fast it's just about uncontrollable. Quite possibly the best high pressure and versatile offense since Phoenix.

Haven't done much with Shuma yet. His inputs take some getting used to, but I see a lot of potential.
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
Prototype-03 said:
The buttons. Always the buttons. On the ground, you want to use buttons so you can wave dash better too.
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Alright, but why? I do pretty well using the stick to dash.

For wavedashes, yeah, it's obvious why using the buttons is better.
 
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Ferrio

Banned
LakeEarth said:
Just wait for it, and the second you see the teleport, jump and throw. And hopefully your character can continue the pain after the throw.
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Thing is with my reaction time + online lag, I usually end up eating the sword mid jump.

Lost Fragment said:
Alright, but why? I do pretty well using the stick to dash.
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I have to dash using buttons using she hulk, if not I'll get her summersault after my dash instead of an air throw.
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
Lost Fragment said:
Alright, but why? I do pretty well using the stick to dash.

For wavedashes, yeah, it's obvious why using the buttons is better.
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I can't give a very good explanation for why, but I'm pretty sure the mvc2 and mvc3 pros use the buttons exclusively for dashing. On a stick it's certainly faster than double-tapping.
 
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SAB CA

Sketchbook Picasso
Lost Fragment said:
Alright, but why? I do pretty well using the stick to dash.

For wavedashes, yeah, it's obvious why using the buttons is better.
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Wave dashing with (2 buttons, Down, 2 buttons) Is generally easier for most, and has less change to make you mistakedly cancel into fireballs and such, than (down, forward, forward, down, forward, forward), etc.

For IAD, I also generally find (db, up-foward, 2 buttons) much easier than (db, uf, f), though I think that ones kinda interchangeable for many.
 
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Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Only ~25% of my matches on Ranked today have featured Sentinel. I'm a bit perplexed.

307 matches in and still no Combat Specialist achievement. Where do all those 1st Lords hide?

Lost Fragment said:
Alright, but why? I do pretty well using the stick to dash.

For wavedashes, yeah, it's obvious why using the buttons is better.
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Button dash is instant (1 frame). Double tapping on either stick or pad would take longer even if your execution was light-speed (press, release, press = at least 3 frames) and in reality it'll always take a bit longer than that.

Generally the only time you shouldn't use button dash is if it causes command overlap problems and would result in an unwanted special move or something.
 
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BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!

Member
DAMN!
Sentinel really is EZ MODE!!!

So I've had this game since about launch and my win rate is like W30/L70, and just about all of my losses are from cheese tactics online, and I really wanted that 5 win streak trophy, so I replaced Chris in my Task/Chris/Spencer team with Sentinel and holy hell he's a goddamn beast. All I did was spam his alpha assist and Task's H.Shots, with a little bit of BIONIC-ARRMMSS for good measure and I got the trophy from my 1st attempt.

Anyways, I won't be using this fucker anymore since it annoys me and everyone else (I got hate mail calling me a fag lol), plus he's no fun,and I won't play ranked anymore either. But Capcom should really nerf this son of a bitch, seriously ;(
 
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RyanCE

Banned
Has anybody ever ripped those little character model icons from the game, from either Mission Mode or the License Cards? They'd be good resources to have (and they'd make nice avatars).
 
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Prototype-03

Member
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!! said:
DAMN!
Sentinel really is EZ MODE!!!

So I've had this game since about launch and my win rate is like W30/L70, and just about all of my losses are from cheese tactics online, and I really wanted that 5 win streak trophy, so I replaced Chris in my Task/Chris/Spencer team with Sentinel and holy hell he's a goddamn beast. All I did was spam his alpha assist and Task's H.Shots, with a little bit of BIONIC-ARRMMSS for good measure and I got the trophy from my 1st attempt.

Anyways, I won't be using this fucker anymore since it annoys me and everyone else (I got hate mail calling me a fag lol), plus he's no fun,and I won't play ranked anymore either. But Capcom should really nerf this son of a bitch, seriously ;(
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Chris is also infinitely harder to use. One of the harder chars to use, imo.
 
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dralla

Member
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!! said:
DAMN!
Sentinel really is EZ MODE!!!

So I've had this game since about launch and my win rate is like W30/L70, and just about all of my losses are from cheese tactics online, and I really wanted that 5 win streak trophy, so I replaced Chris in my Task/Chris/Spencer team with Sentinel and holy hell he's a goddamn beast. All I did was spam his alpha assist and Task's H.Shots, with a little bit of BIONIC-ARRMMSS for good measure and I got the trophy from my 1st attempt.

Anyways, I won't be using this fucker anymore since it annoys me and everyone else (I got hate mail calling me a fag lol), plus he's no fun,and I won't play ranked anymore either. But Capcom should really nerf this son of a bitch, seriously ;(
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if you his sent during the assist the drones disappear. i wish doom missiles worked the same way.
 
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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
lemon__fresh said:
Great start! Are you not capturing footage in widescreen?
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Thanks much. Hmm, it should be in widescreen naturally. Try switching to 480p, my friend told me he was seeing some weird cropping too.
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
Zero's a really fun character to play, and I think his basic air combo is the coolest looking one in the game. But god damn is his damage output low. And his health. I don't think I can win with him unless I get seriously good at OTG/relaunch combos.
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Parallax Scroll said:
Zero's a really fun character to play, and I think his basic air combo is the coolest looking one in the game. But god damn is his damage output low. And his health. I don't think I can win with him unless I get seriously good at OTG/relaunch combos.
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What zero has low damage output? Kay!

Edit: I wish taskmaster did more damage myself.
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
Peoples said:
Always dash with buttons because it's faster to execute
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Fair enough. Should've been obvious in retrospect. I don't have any problems doing things like Magneto's basic air dash loops using the stick for dashes, but I can see how things like the Rom combo and other things involving uf or df dashes and stuff would be hard, and it's probably a good idea to be consistent across the board on how I execute things.
 
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Ferrio

Banned
QisTopTier said:
What zero has low damage output? Kay!

Edit: I wish taskmaster did more damage myself.
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Fucker already takes off 70% of my health in a single combo.

I have to do my tron combo + 3 dhc to achieve that. Though I do love that one, opponent might as well put the controller down for a bit during it.
 
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Prototype-03

Member
QisTopTier said:
What zero has low damage output? Kay!

Edit: I wish taskmaster did more damage myself.
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WHAT??

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haunts

Bacon of Hope
Lost Fragment said:
Fair enough. Should've been obvious in retrospect. I don't have any problems doing things like Magneto's basic air dash loops using the stick for dashes, but I can see how things like the Rom combo and other things involving uf or df dashes and stuff would be hard, and it's probably a good idea to be consistent across the board on how I execute things.
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i just personally find it easier to get in a rhythm using the buttons to dash. like, alternating between LM and H.

think i am going to put magneto to the back of my team and work more on my other characters. ive been neglecting many others cause ive just been so into mag combos and shit. lmao.

also, taskmaster has to be one of magnetos worst match ups. got completely mauled (again) by taskmaster last night. Not entirely sure what do versus him except maybe play a character with a teleport.
 
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Ferrio

Banned
enzo_gt said:
+1 to the notion that QisTopTier needing to back up his shit talking with some videos.

Post em up brah.
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Play him. Not that he doesn't trash talk, but no matter what gave I've played with him he backs up his shit pretty well.
 
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"God's Beard!"

Member
I love overkill bad combos. This is my iron troll combo for my team:

Round Harvest DHC Stalking Flare, MS, MMHS, Liberaton Volcano xx Chaotic Flame DHC Max Voltage DHC Hyper Mystic Ray, X-Factor, cMH, MMH8H, 2MS, MMHS, Hyper Mystic Ray DHC Chaotic Flame

Damage: all of it
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Ferrio said:
Play him. Not that he doesn't trash talk, but no matter what gave I've played with him he backs up his shit pretty well.
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I don't even view what I do as talking trash xD Hell I'll give advice and stuff if people ask.
 
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Solune

Member
Prototype-03 said:
Chris is also infinitely harder to use. One of the harder chars to use, imo.
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He's harder to use true for sure, but if you can't get 5 ranked wins in a row, you just have bad fundamentals.
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
haunts said:
also, taskmaster has to be one of magnetos worst match ups. got completely mauled (again) by taskmaster last night. Not entirely sure what do versus him except maybe play a character with a teleport.
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I think the bad thing about that is, even taskmasters up close game isn't bad and he has really good throw/air throw range too or it seems like he does.
 
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Ferrio

Banned
QisTopTier said:
I think the bad thing about that is, even taskmasters up close game isn't bad and he has really good throw/air throw range too or it seems like he does.
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I would pretty much say that Taskmaster might be one of the most well rounded of all the chars. Does he really have any glaring negatives?
 
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