Guilty_AI
Member
What!? Blasphemy! That spot belongs to Driver San Francisco!
Marvel's Spider Man Remastered is coming to PC on August 12, 2022 (also Miles Morales Fall 2022)
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MidGenRefresh
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Thank you very much, the passive aggressive bit before helped as well. Not sure why you are getting so so aggressive and defensive without anyone going on the attack with you but sure I will enjoy what I enjoy.
Well, at least the pleasant part is spot on! Don't get offended, we're all relaxed here. I'm just messing with you.
I wouldn't call Driver San Francisco a racer. Driving game. It's the best open world driving game.
Guilty_AI
Member
ok, fair enough assessment
Guilty_AI
Member
Be a man and use the steering wheel to play gears 5
yamaci17
Member
use the steering wheel to drive around with that ski thing
ultimate gaming experience
OsirisBlack
Banned
Ok, I get tired of the lies from PC gamers on enthusiast forms, I am primarily a PC gamer but own EVERYTHING and PC is not as simple/braindead as console gaming so let's stop pretending that it is. I just recently had this conversation in this very forum, Try Playing FFXV with an Overclocked card go ahead I'll wait right here while your cpu RAM piles up and won't dump hard crashing your game every 10 to 20 minutes. Here's an even simpler one go ahead and connect a PS5 controller to your pc and go play Darksiders III or Metro Enhanced.... again ill wait right here. All of those issues can be resolved with different fixes but those issues do not exist on console.
Don't get it confused either I love PC and have tried a million times to play certain games on console and just cannot do it (Smite/FFXIV/Control/FFXV/Cyberpunk I double and triple dip a lot) The tv complaint is a dead point as my main PC is connected to a 75 inch oled but the simplicity point still stands. I have said it before and I will say it again. I feel sorry for ANYONE who you mislead into thinking they can plug a pc up put it in rest mode mindlessly download patches and just play any game without ever having a single issue. Pfft I've had a recent issue where certain games play worse with the newest Nvidia driver updates on a 3090. There is a certain amount of patience and knowledge required to deal with gaming on a pc, and we haven't even discussed the horrors of someone trying to mod their first game. (Nightmare fuel)
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I think it's definitely going to happen, once all of the porting is caught up. There's no benefit to having an exclusivity period, when they can bring in more money selling to another large audience. Sony sees PC as an extension of the PlayStation brand, not competition.
yamaci17
Member
1) its my personal experience, and i have no motivation to lie.
2) i don't play ffxv currently. primarily, i don't play ff xv with an overclocked card. because i don't have an overclocked card.. i played ffxv back in 2019 with a gtx 1060, and never had any crashes. the gpu was not overclocked, and i didn't felt the need of overclocking it.
3) i currently have a ps5 controller connected to my PC with a bluetooth. i will install darksiders 3, record the first launch and see if the gamepad works or not. i would never play with metro exodus with a gamepad. but i will give darksiders 3 for you. if i launch the game for the first time, and gameppad works right away with no issues or whatsoever, will you retract your claim that I'm lying? legit, asking.
4) modding is beyond the scope of console vs. pc discussions. it is a completely optional activity that does not even exists on consoles.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
There is the fact that they can decouple the console version development from the PC port and optimisation thus freeing each team from having to be saddled with either additional work frontloaded or uncertainty in the optimisation / customisation of the PC ports.
They have a vested interest to keep people buying into consoles as they get a lot more money per player there as they get money from third parties sales and from online subscriptions which PC players still shy away from.
PC players do not seem unhappy with the current arrangements and nobody is calling for cross but so they get to have two SKU's… another win.
Guilty_AI
Member
uh, drag your files to the game directory and.... done?
But not like i don't get what you're saying, honestly most of these complications can be solved with quick google searchs and downloading some fan patch from the net. However, being familiar with common users who use pcs for work, the amount of end-users out there who become anxious trying to do stuff as simple as draging files from one folder to another or installing an app downloaded from google is astounding.
For people who think converting a word file into PDF is hacker stuff, those might indeed have lots of trouble with pc gaming, as simple as it actually is.
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DerivedDataCache
Member
Not trying to offend you but your post reads like a billionaire who doesnt know how to drive his Ferrari.
John Wick
Member
No according to many it's day one releases......
Apparently the floodgates are open?
OsirisBlack
Banned
It's not that deep but, it won't work. The game does not support dualsense at all without going through drastic measures not even wired. Apologies if it felt like an attack not specifically calling you a liar just the whole it's just as easy as a console thing is absurd and annoying. PC is no where near as complicated as it used to be but we still have quite a ways to go.
OsirisBlack
Banned
No offense taken actually got a good laugh in with my coffee ... I think the gas goes in the trunk.
yamaci17
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Topher
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But those are not typical examples. If someone is wanting a simple experience on PC then they are not going to be interested in overclocking their GPU or using anything other than a standard Xbox controller. They certainly are not going to care about modding. Gaming on PC can be very simple or it can be complicated. That's not a lie. That's a choice.
DukeNukem00
Banned
But using console controllers on PC is going beyond the standard to use an optional tool. A computer uses mouse and keyboard. Not a console controller. And every game runs by default for m/kb. Using a controller is a personal choice one makes. If there are issues or not, that is not a knock against PC, because you're doing something extra, just like mods or other tweaks.
JackSparr0w
Banned
The thing is I don't want PC gaming to become as easy as consoles because that can't happen unless it loses it's openness and becomes a closed system like consoles. Right now is as good as it gets and if you are a total computer illiterate in this day and age that is not PC gaming's problem.
OsirisBlack
Banned
If you can figure it out let me know I want to do another playthrough. Son has confiscated my elite2. PS5 is second best in my opinion.so, should I give it a try or not? just asking
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OsirisBlack
Banned
If a game says supports controller or m/kb then both should work. I do see where you are coming from but action hack and slash games with m/kb kind of throws off the feel of the game. Just like I would NEVER try to play Baldurs Gate III, Smite, League or any shooting game ever with a controller.
winjer
Member
You OC a GPU, it wasn't stable and now PC gaming is bad. That one about overclocking is an just idiotic argument.
Yes, the PS5 controller support on PC is lacking. But the support for the Xbox controllers, is almost perfect.
So once again, not a good argument there.
Yes, console gaming is still easier than on PC. But we are far away from the 90's, when just to install a new car, required a installing drivers manually, setting up IRQs, and all that complicated stuff.
yamaci17
Member
practically, you must rely on steam or DS4 windows to play with a dualshock/dualsense. my setup is already primed and ready, installing ds3 rn, will provide videos that it works one shot.
if not, then i can retract and accept that pc gaming is hassle. will see.
winjer
Member
practically, you must rely on steam or DS4 windows to play with a dualshock/dualsense. my setup is already primed and ready, installing ds3 rn, will provide videos that it works one shot.
if not, then i can retract and accept that pc gaming is hassle. will see.
I had an Xbox 360 controller for over a decade now, connected to my PC. It worked flawlessly on every game I played.
It was getting old, so a couple of years back, I bought a Dual Shock 4. After a few months, I gave up on it, because of compatibility issues. Sold it and put the X360 controller back in.
I'll probably buy an Xbox Series S/X to replace it, one day....
yamaci17
Member
i mean do you simply want native dualshock/dualsense when it is not given? if you're okay with xbox prompts, setting up ds4windows is a "one time thing" that will universally work for ALL games that do not support dualshock/dualsense natively. it just works, everytime, without any user interference
do note that i did that "one time thing" 'hassle' once with dualsense when i initially purchased it, and it took me 1 hours to set the whole thing up (ds4windows, two seperate profiles, and hidhide on top of it) if you want, i can guide you but if you dont want to play with xbox prompts on a dualsense or dualshock controller, then you're truly ouf of luck in this instance
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OsirisBlack
Banned
It's actually very stable, that's another gripe I have with the PC community when something is wrong you always hear what someone thinks is wrong with your computer or what you did wrong, and never that there might actually be an issue. the game is just completely incompatible with any sort of OC software. Literally.
What if someone doesn't have an XBOX controller it does not say XBOX controller support it says controller support. What if (god forbid) someone new to PC gaming just spent 1,500 on a reasonable setup but only had a PS5 previously, and their PC and all of the games they just purchased on Steam just said controller support?
I remember Conquest of Camelot.
yamaci17
Member
steam universally can emulate dualsense/dualshock to xbox gamepad. therefore, as it says, gamepad will work out of the box without the need of 3rd party software (ds4windows). it did not for you?
OsirisBlack
Banned
Not for the Dualsense
yamaci17
Member
which game specifically? darksiders 3?
have you ticked the playstation and generic gamepad support boxes?
steam gamepad emulation is so extensive that it can even make you assign keyboard buttons to gamepad buttons for games that have no gamepad support at all (example: gta vice city). it does not work efficiently, but it is an effort,)
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OsirisBlack
Banned
LOL yes. You just made me feel like I make my 70 year old mother feel with her PC and phone. "Are you sure it's plugged up?" LOLOLwhich game specifically? darksiders 3?
have you ticked the playstation and generic gamepad support boxes?
yamaci17
Member
man i have darksiders 3 on epic.
damn.
yamaci17
Member
okay, i hope this does not offend you and i never mean any offence
try right clicking the game, options. make srue that enable steam input is chosen for the game (override, if necessary). i mean this has to work, i cannot imagine why it would not work, im quite shocked rn.
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gta 4, as of 3 jun 2022, works perfectly with dualsense with SteamInput. just an example. if darksiders 3 indeed borked, well then i'm quite shocked
and yeah i can play it @4k 120 fps on my rig with vulkan, stutters gone vastly as well.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Consoles are easier, because they're closed platforms. You can only use their specific accessories.
Considering the vast freedom that PC allows, it's pretty impressive how easy it generally is. My experience is literally waking my PC up and playing. If I have to tinker around, it's usually because I bought an older game that I want to play at modern settings.
I can't speak for controller issues as I use an Xbox controller and that sucker is plug and play. Works with every game that supports controllers.
yamaci17
Member
ArtHands
Banned
I think you should just stick to consoles. Please.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
It's understandable as the game flies along at a fast pace and like 50% of surfaces are reflective but the reflections outside of linear story missions are very low quality if you stop to look. I'm sure a PC version can improve on this even if it's not yet playable on the majority of GPUs.
winjer
Member
OsirisBlack
Banned
So I should stick to consoles because I can't get into Gears 5 or because you said so? Because if it's the latter I have a few bills you can pay if you would like your opinion to mean anything. Enjoy your day.
yamaci17
Member
i have a video incoming. might debunk all the "game not launching, gamepad not working out of the gate" mythsI thought it matched this thread
a multicultural team of v
Member
It feels like the opposite though, there is no benefit to them releasing on day 1. PC gamers will buy the games no matter how late the ports are, and day 1 on PC would mean all of the people in this thread saying they will double dip would only buy one copy instead of two.
VFXVeteran
Banned
That's not true. Days Gone had a better GI solution. HZD had better texture filtering, larger LOD, DLSS, etc.. These aren't just straight ports.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Didn't several PS gamers declare that Spiderman MM couldn't be implemented on PC because of the required SSD on PS5 for streaming in data?? What will their excuse be when R&C gets announced for PC?
Denton
Member
I finished FF15 on my PC last year, It did crash the first 20 hours or so, usually once every 5 hours, but then it stopped and I finished the game (and all DLCs) without any further issues.
It is, however, the only game I experienced crashing on in the last 5 years, with about 150 games played.
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yamaci17
Member
okay so i, let's go
video is honest, and genuine, first time launch of a game
dualsense is shown in 0:03 i setup the ds4windows 1.5 years prior, so no extra effort or hassle went into it for the sake of this game. it should just "work". but will it?
0:09 entering the epic games, showing that the game has never been launched before
0:15 dum dum dum big moment, clicked on the game... will it launch? will it crash? will it require something special? what shall happeeen? i mean it can ask me to install VC redist. but it won't, because those stuff are installed. it can ask me to install dxweb.. oh no, it was installed already by a game 1 year ago.
0:22 suspicious black screen. hmm. seems like it will crash!!
0:33 oh no. how could this happen. game logo is up... but... can it reach to the main menu?
0:42 oh it did. damn. pressing on the X button on my dualsense... damn. it worked. how could such heresy can happen. to launch game and make the game read the gamepad inputs, i should've spent 42 minutes, not 42 seconds.... this is... some surreal stuff. surely, a PARANORMAL PC activity is in works here
but no matter... game will not work... properly. it will crash, or something. it has to. it simply.... can't run normally. IT SHOULDN'T.
1:15 gameplay starts... surreal... paranormal... mythical. can I teach this power to anyone else? am I blessed, truly, by the Lisa Su herself or anything?
2:05 taking a quick glance to the settings... seems like game has a hardcap @62 fps by default. i think... hassle starts here... if you want... more out of your hardware. but its optional... and 60 fps is smooth and all, no? i disabled vsync and game became a bit less clunkier. it seems all right
i actually liked this game ! very smooth gameplay. i definetely look forward to playing darksiders games in the future. just not now, im currently playing something else of course. but i was still shocked, as to how mythically game managed to work and i was in the game within 1:15 minutes from the launch.
i will do a similar vid for sniper elite 5. never launched it on the dreaded "xbox pc app" that is broken for anyone.
we shall if that works or not, as well?
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Ulysses 31
Member
Didn't several PS gamers declare that Spiderman MM couldn't be implemented on PC because of the required SSD on PS5 for streaming in data?? What will their excuse be when R&C gets announced for PC?
MidGenRefresh
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What will their excuse be when R&C gets announced for PC?
This will be glorious. I bet it's going to work perfectly fine on decades old HDDs.