Can't you still get damaged by the bullets when you're taking the shot?
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance |OT| A Blade Forged In Platinum [LAW OF THE WILD]
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Can't you still get damaged by the bullets when you're taking the shot?
But you think the combat is crap, and it's not any different from the demo. In fact, parries have an even bigger window than in the demo(on normal difficulty that is).
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
But if you do that no delicious repair gel from slicing down the missiles lol
Huh? Overreaction much? You came in saying only negative generalities without elaborating, and then one person responded in a snarky way. I'd actually say that's pretty good for most OTs.
I actually wanted to know what you didn't like about it so that we could pinpoint if it's something that's missing or just something that inherently will not click with you. It sounds like it's something that inherently won't click with you, but I would implore you to give the parry/dodge system a second chance because I think that it's something special.
The slicing mechanic is just something that will be fun for some people and won't be for others.
The enemies will get more interesting. You only played past the demo area. You've barely scratched the surface and beaten only one real boss.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I haven't had problems with either game's camera. Sorry to hear you struggle.
Well you are the king of bad action game control systems, as the official NeoGAF KI:U mascot
The first doesn't fire right away. When another spawns, it takes even longer for that one to start shooting, too. It's a lot easier than you think.
Is it really criticism to just have a list of things and say they aren't good without elaborating?
Parrying Monsoon's attacks is so fucking rewarding. It just feels right. I feel like Daigo.
I've gotten a little further on hard, and this game is extremely difficult. So much so I may not even be able to continue playing it. I won't lower the difficulty - I don't want the fact that I can take more hits be the reason I complete it.
Still an amazing game though. One of the best brawlers I've played recently.
I wish their was training I could go through so I can get parrying down. Any suggestions?
Still an amazing game though. One of the best brawlers I've played recently.
I wish their was training I could go through so I can get parrying down. Any suggestions?
I'll have to try it again then.
One thing in general though, I will never ever get the perfect against the final boss trophy. I've just learned to accept that.
That's why most OTs are shit. I think no snarky comments would be much better.
However, I'm not going to just stop playing because the first hour is bad. But I will bow out of the thread. I hope it picks up, as you claim.
It only seems impossible at first glance. His patterns are relatively easy to learn and as for the nanopaste:
Get him down to 150-160% and he'll throw stuff at you that you have to slice up. It drops lots of nanopaste.
YES YES YES
I've only just beat Monsoon, but I was glad to parry everything he threw at me, mile away or not. Even predicting his launches was satisfying, which are less telegraphed.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
It really does. I need to get better at dodging though. That's my next goal.
Goldenroad
Member
So...I was playing on Normal and just banging my head against that Mistral boss fight, so I said "screw it, I'm starting over on Easy", and man...Easy is way too easy. Like I haven't died and I've barely lost any health at any point up til the middle of Chapter 2. Anyway, at least I can enjoy the story and get the basics down, so my next play through on Normal might be a bit more tolerable. But yeah, the camera overall is my biggest hindrance to being able to pull off parry's properly, especially with the gecko's. Regardless, it's pretty awesome and over the top. Maybe the combat isn't as tight as Bayo, but it's pretty awesome either way.
Well you are the king of bad action game control systems, as the official NeoGAF KI:U mascot
RE6 & MGSR have bad controls? well that's a new one.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Ok, I really hope Robert Rodriguez is a fan of this game. This NEEDS to be made a movie. The Mexican/western/samaurai undertones, cheesy humor, kickass ost, and over the top action with a wanky philosophical story... Would be perfect for a RR film.
Riposte
Member
Dodging (with dodge offset) feels better than parry I think.
Here is another thing for my wishlist:
They should add a mechanic where enemies (especially the low level mooks) shield themselves during blade mode. This would make it so that you have hit at least one other "core" before you get that juice, perhaps more than one other for the dual-wielders. If you hit the wrong spot they would parry you. Weakening whatever limb they are using to block (so its "blue") would negate this.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Let's just get Quentin Tarantino on the phone I and we're all set.
Yah I took him down about that much and things got easier. I have a question though... Does upgrading the
murasma blade
i think the wiggling sticks thing is just like the whole "the button mashing in samurai shodown was actually random"
im pretty sure it doesn't do anything
RoninChaos
Member
Are the GameStop codes working yet?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It's hard to let go of the sombrero and poncho. Mexican cyborg ninja adventures is my favourite.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Not the same.
Stick + X button? Who thought this is a good idea?
Real counter system should be guard + X like NG. I hate when devs think it's cool to be different.
All my time is being wasted on managing the fucked up camera and running like a goddamn fool.
Except when guarding a front attack leaves your back completely exposed, or makes you attack instead of guarding.
Parrying is a nice idea but in practice it simply CAN NOT handle crowd-control situations, like the first Raptor battles.
My man. I'm so glad I'm not alone in thinking the king of the genre/Ninja Gaiden has nailed the combat systems that Metal Gear Raiden should've copied.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Or him too, but this game seems more up RR's alley.
Not bad -- just different, and better for it. In this case, change MGRR's camera to GOW and all the speed and impact is gone. I'm glad they went with the choice they did. Simply fantastic.Well you are the king of bad action game control systems, as the official NeoGAF KI:U mascot
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Have you unlocked any VR missions? You can play the first "kill all the enemies" one over and over until you feel comfortable parrying. You could also just chapter select the demo area (chapter 01 I guess?) and play one of the checkpoints over and over. Just let the enemies attack you and practice reacting.
Positioning in a battle is also important, both because of the camera and because Raiden cannot overpower every enemy if he's surrounded (though the pole arm helps).
I was thinking exactly the same thing lol. Sometimes I waggled away like a maniac but still lost the sequence and other times I waggled the stick rather slowly (because I became more concerned about my gamepad than the outcome of the sequence) and I escaped the stun. I really seems kinda random.
Don't know. I only used the HF Blade on my first playthrough.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yep trying to kill the last boss on hard with no HP recovery items was a bad idea.
Me too. I love it that they made blocking an actual skill to learn rather just holding down a button. It's so much more rewarding this way and it just works great in concert with all the other gameplay mechanics.
Game needs to be less awful with the camera first.
Yep, I do too.
I think it's different from NG, warrants being different, and overall is much better for doing so as well. MGR is always about being on the offensive; if your running, your probably doing so just to get some time to think. Everything else, your always up in that ass, even if its a crowd, parrying and dodging your way while whittling down enemies.
I must say though, the dodge should've been standard and taught to everyone like parties are. They're pretty crucial to the combat, though not as much as parries.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I'll just say that I have not one single time accidentally attacked instead of parrying. I've failed to parry effectively in a crowd situation, as I'm sure we all have, but that means I need more practice in a crowd situation (or to get out of it) and not that the mechanic doesn't work. It's an extremely easy and forgiving input, and it creates a level of engagement that a block button wouldn't.
I bet if there was a block button, people would feel the combat was more boring because frankly it doesn't matter that much which combos you do and when. The way it is, you're always focused and paying attention, waiting for that enemy to attack even as you combo them. It works incredibly well for me but I can see why others would have different reactions.
The camera isn't good but you can use lock-on and/or positioning in a room to manage it. You don't have to fiddle with the right stick in the middle of combat. There are still occasions when the camera ends up in a terrible place for me, but it doesn't happen nearly often enough that I would blame it for my failures in the game.
I bet if there was a block button, people would feel the combat was more boring because frankly it doesn't matter that much which combos you do and when. The way it is, you're always focused and paying attention, waiting for that enemy to attack even as you combo them. It works incredibly well for me but I can see why others would have different reactions.
The camera isn't good but you can use lock-on and/or positioning in a room to manage it. You don't have to fiddle with the right stick in the middle of combat. There are still occasions when the camera ends up in a terrible place for me, but it doesn't happen nearly often enough that I would blame it for my failures in the game.