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[Lakitu]

How does everyone feel the hype on this one is going to go? Will it be like MGS1 and continue on as one of the greatest games of all time, or like MGS2, pretty awesome, but flawed?

I'm going with the flawed mainly because there is just so very little gameplay towards the end of the game

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Shadow Moses has some awesome stuff, but it felt short, Eastern Europe had practically NO gameplay, and Act 5 was even shorter than 4 it felt.

So far I found it as a game that started off REALLY well, and kinda petered out gameplay wise near the end. Cinematically, Kojima does some AMAZING things. Holy crap at some of the cinematics!

I just wish more of the game was like the early acts.

Hmmm, well I'll get back to you after I complete the last 2 acts. So far so good for me. I'm too busy watching Euro 2008 now though

 

[MickeyKnox]

I don't understand what they were talking about.

I was puzzled too, then I just assumed they meant the

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small robot sentries that are lightly peppered in a few spots of Shadow Moses. Which I found strange because the boss fight in the snow field was essentially an enhanced version of The End and his alt battle from 3. Really fun.

 

[Ephemeris]

Last set of photos:

From Uniqlo:

Big Boss was about 5 people behind me. Kojima's face lit up when he met him.

Another Shot

Took a pic with him.

Gaffer Theta11. Looking smug after another Mario Kart win. I'm certain at this point that cheats were involved. :lol

Picture of the Line behind me.

We're finally inside the store; less than 5 people away from getting our stuff signed.

After shaking my hand (Side-effect: A feeling of immense fertility.) He proceeds to do this:

Theta11 aka Fangirl

Big Boss meets.. Biggest Boss?

The Line outside after we left.

The guys from last night were there too

Yeah, went back inside for this last one. He was a really good sport about the whole thing.

Personally, the wait outside was worse than Virgin. Once you were inside however, it was much more smooth and efficient. That's all folks!

 

[Lifeonmars?]

Finished act 2 last night, MY GOD.

Best game of the generation so far.

 

[Y2Kev]

I was puzzled too, then I just assumed they meant the

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small robot sentries that are lightly peppered in a few spots of Shadow Moses. Which I found strange because the boss fight in the snow field was essentially an enhanced version of The End and his alt battle from 3. Really fun.

That's what I thought they meant too.

The

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Crying Wolf

boss battle was so sweet. Loved

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tracking her downwind.

And there are so many possibilities....sniper rifles, RPGs, claymores, tranqs.

 

[bishopcruz]

There's tons of gameplay, it all goes down to how you want to approach it. That's all.

Really? Because

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Act 3 had a really cool opening, but then it became a rail shooter (About an hour after the last rail shooting segment.) Then Shadow Moses was pretty much dodging unmanned vehicles (punctuated by a cool boss fight) and while it was deliberately trying for an MGS1 feel (which I can dig), it wasn't incredibly compelling (Mini-geckos SUCK!!) Then act 5 opened well, but was REALLY short (or at least felt that way.)

The boss fights were all cool, though IMO no MGS has had better boss fights than part 1. But they were probably my favorite parts, especially Wolf.

Edit: Fixed, gah SO VERY SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dracos]

Played all night. I can easily say this is one of the best games ever made. Also, so far as much of a movie as MGS seems to be, I think the gameplay in this one is the best of the series. I'm enjoying playing as much as watching.

 

[Mifune]

Fix your fucking spoiler tags!

MY EYES!!!

EDIT: Spoilage contained. Thank you.

 

[DieH@rd]

Finished Act 1 - awesome, awesome game!
It looks much better on my projector than I dared to hope.

Entire GAF hates you

 

[BeEatNU]

OMG

did anyone pay attention to

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Octocons Wallpaper in Mission briefing of Act 2? ZOE!

 

[Doc Evils]

I don't understand what they were talking about.

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controlling Rex

 

[AmMortal]

Act 5 Split screen is a blessing from God .

 

[dk_]

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Between Act 1 and Act 2 during the Mission Briefing. Use MKII to pick up the camera and other possible goodies

Hm I missed the camera. Can I get it later?

 

[Dabookerman]

Ok, I managed to finally upload a working link version of the video demonstrating the

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Stealth camo and the Tanegashima

Enjoy!

Please, once again, ignore my awful awful commentary.

This has some pretty amazing results.

 

[Ashhong]

OMG

did anyone pay attention to

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Octocons Wallpaper in Mission briefing of Act 2? ZOE!

i thought i saw policenauts? maybe that was later

did anybody figure out what that sprite was on one of the other computers? green goggles and a tail...

how did u get that dabooker?

 

[AmMortal]

i thought i saw policenauts? maybe that was later

did anybody figure out what that sprite was on one of the other computers? green goggles and a tail...

how did u get that dabooker?

There are two computers.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

dabookerman:

how are you getting those BB pictures? Is that some kind of bonus after you beat the game?


I apologize if I missed a previous explanation in this colossal thread. :lol

 

[ToastyFrog]

I don't understand what they were talking about.

I guess this episode proves that when you have to mince around topics, it's almost not worth having the conversation. We were referring to

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the activation of Guns of the Patriots, at which point everything in the game becomes a matter of blowing up or evading automated drones and FROGs. All of us feel that the loss of the rival combat factions makes the game's second half far less interesting than the first

.

 

[Xater]

OMG

did anyone pay attention to

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Octocons Wallpaper in Mission briefing of Act 2? ZOE!

It's actually ZOE2 and on the other monitor is a Policenauts one. So far I have not seen a Snatcher reference.

 

[Y2Kev]

I guess this episode proves that when you have to mince around topics, it's almost not worth having the conversation. We were referring to

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the activation of Guns of the Patriots, at which point everything in the game becomes a matter of blowing up or evading automated drones and FROGs. All of us feel that the loss of the rival combat factions makes the game's second half far less interesting than the first

.

Ah, I got you. But that

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doesn't seem so much like a result of the activation of the Guns of the Patriots as much as it does a consequence of where the last two acts take you. It seems like that would have been the case regardless of whether or not GotP was activated.

 

[Diablos]

Just started playing and all I can say is wooooooww.

GOTY? Probably.

 

[Chiggs]

Act 5 Split screen is a blessing from God .

One man's seemingly mundane comment is another man's spoilers. :lol I'm sooo out of this thread.

 

[belvedere]

Came up for a breath of air after finishing Act 2 to say that this is already one of my all time favorite games. Ever.

Without a doubt the best game this gen.

 

[mattiewheels]

2 more questions about the LE:

where is the chapter of the digital novel that i kept hearing about? i looked on the blu ray, is it in the game itself?

also, the LOGAN section of the blu ray has the opening show clips, but are the PMC commercials not on there? i'd kinda like to have those avalable too.

do those tv show clips at the beginnning just randomize when you start a new game, or do they show up all throughout the game?

 

[traveler]

I guess this episode proves that when you have to mince around topics, it's almost not worth having the conversation. We were referring to

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the activation of Guns of the Patriots, at which point everything in the game becomes a matter of blowing up or evading automated drones and FROGs. All of us feel that the loss of the rival combat factions makes the game's second half far less interesting than the first

.

Have you guys ever thought about going back after a few weeks and doing a spoiler filled, no holds barred debate about a game? (outside the GOTY stuff at the end of the year) This week's GFW got me thinking about the subject and it really seems like MGS4, moreso than many other games, would benefit from critical reflection and debate once we're past the fear of spoilers.

 

[Jim]

Seeing them side-by-side on the first page, this thread is going to zip right by the Official GTA4 thread by the end of the weekend methinks.

 

[Y2Kev]

Seeing them side-by-side on the first page, this thread is going to zip right by the Official GTA4 thread by the end of the weekend methinks.

Good, that game is a total shitpile.

*laughs*

 

[Mattlikewhoa]

Holy shit...I just finished the game and I'm ready to start again! That's how great this game is!!!

 

[BobTheFork]

I guess this episode proves that when you have to mince around topics, it's almost not worth having the conversation. We were referring to

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the activation of Guns of the Patriots, at which point everything in the game becomes a matter of blowing up or evading automated drones and FROGs. All of us feel that the loss of the rival combat factions makes the game's second half far less interesting than the first

.

Totally disagree personally.

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I think if they had not changed that aspect later in the game, it would have worn itself out by then. The greatest thing about the game to me is that the gameplay is so varied and they changed it up constantly as it progressed.

 

[djkimothy]

Do you get to keep your weapons/items when starting a new game after having completed it?

 

[Mifune]

One man's seemingly mundane comment is another man's spoilers. :lol I'm sooo out of this thread.

Seriously. I thought I was alone in finding that to be info I didn't need to hear.

 

[Xater]

Do you get to keep your weapons/items when starting a new game after having completed it?

Yes.

 

[Dabookerman]

how did u get that dabooker?

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Stealth camo = complete the game without getting a single alert.

dabookerman:

how are you getting those BB pictures? Is that some kind of bonus after you beat the game?


I apologize if I missed a previous explanation in this colossal thread. :lol

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When you fight them in human form, dont attack them, about 4 or so minutes later it moves to a white room. Whip out the cam, and they start doing poses. It's like the camera mode from integral, awesome stuff ;p

 

[moai]

so, the ps3 80gb mgs4 bundle goes for around 800 usd here. is it really difficult to get in the Us? because that's the reason they gave for this price.

 

[radjago]

Last set of photos:

First reaction: Separated at birth?

 

[MickeyKnox]

That's what I thought they meant too.

The

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Crying Wolf

boss battle was so sweet. Loved

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tracking her downwind.

And there are so many possibilities....sniper rifles, RPGs, claymores, tranqs.

Did the whole thing with my tranq pistol.

 

[traveler]

That was the exact same thing I thought. :lol

 

[BeEatNU]

It's actually ZOE2 and on the other monitor is a Policenauts one. So far I have not seen a Snatcher reference.

yeah ZOE2 cover has the guy (cant remember his name)

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thats in the wallpaper.

I didn't even notice the policnauts

 

[bishopcruz]

Ah, I got you. But that

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doesn't seem so much like a result of the activation of the Guns of the Patriots as much as it does a consequence of where the last two acts take you. It seems like that would have been the case regardless of whether or not GotP was activated.

It COULD have been done,

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you could have had a war between the two rival Patriot factions that could have populated the later stages, have Snake trying to shut down GW while Ocelot and Zero's forces are fighting on Outer Haven. Hell, something similar could have gone on on Shadow Moses as well.

As it is there was very little happening.

I know that some say that the change in gameplay throughout is good. I agree to a point. I LOVED the

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REX fights, the tailing of the resistance guy, and the rail shooting.

The problem was the best gameplay, the very interesting meat of the game is

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gone after Act 2,

and it isn't replaced by anything NEARLY as compelling. It basically becomes MGS1 again for all intents and purposes.

 

[Doc Evils]

Seeing them side-by-side on the first page, this thread is going to zip right by the Official GTA4 thread by the end of the weekend methinks.

One is a average HD remake, the other is a true Next Gen game that has risen the bar and become the game of forever.

 

[Roxas]

How many acts are in the game? I DONT WANT IT TO END.

 

[Dabookerman]

Man, looking back at the ending, the track :

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Father and Son

Is pretty fucking amazing. Although Guns of the Patriots is also an amazing track, just awesome build up music.

I LOVE THIS GAME SO FUCKING MUCH :_;

When I come back from holiday, RAH Raiden is MINE >:x

I hear they are doing a recall on them, because the visors were broken, more time to save up I guess. I also need Old Snake. Gahh so expensive :_;;;;

 

[Sullen]

so, the ps3 80gb mgs4 bundle goes for around 800 usd here. is it really difficult to get in the Us? because that's the reason they gave for this price.

Not sure, I asked about this a few pages ago and got no answer, so I'm not sure anyone else around here knows either. Might be limited, might not be. =/

 

[Y2Kev]

It COULD have been done,

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you could have had a war between the two rival Patriot factions that could have populated the later stages, have Snake trying to shut down GW while Ocelot and Zero's forces are fighting on Outer Haven. Hell, something similar could have gone on on Shadow Moses as well.

As it is there was very little happening.

I know that some say that the change in gameplay throughout is good. I agree to a point. I LOVED the

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REX fights, the tailing of the resistance guy, and the rail shooting.

The problem was the best gameplay, the very interesting meat of the game is

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gone after Act 2,

and it isn't replaced by anything NEARLY as compelling. It basically becomes MGS1 again for all intents and purposes.

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The coolest part about Shadow Moses was that it was completely abandoned. And how would you get a massive army aboard Haven? It was nearly impossible for Snake and co to get on! Akiba almost didn't make it!

 

[Cartman86]

Sorry, but no one game is worth that much money. It's always wise to wait for a system to develop a library of games you want to play before making the plunge.

If there is a game that I really want to play why should I wait? If you really want to play it then play it.

 

[Shinz Kicker]

yeah ZOE2 cover has the guy (cant remember his name)

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thats in the wallpaper.

I didn't even notice the policnauts

not a spoiler but

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there are Lunar knight sprits that move around hal desktop

 

[Ashhong]

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Stealth camo = complete the game without getting a single alert.

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When you fight them in human form, dont attack them, about 4 or so minutes later it moves to a white room. Whip out the cam, and they start doing poses. It's like the camera mode from integral, awesome stuff ;p

how the fuckkkkkk did you manage that?!

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the stealthcamo

man thats crazy.

THANK YOU SHINZ. lunar knights. nobody was answering that i could see =/

 

[Dabookerman]

how the fuckkkkkk did you manage that?!

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the stealthcamo

man thats crazy.

THANK YOU SHINZ. lunar knights. nobody was answering that i could see =/

I would of got the

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Bandana (infinite ammo) if it hadnt been for that silly 1 kill during Act 3s chase scene , But i figure I will get that once I get Big Boss rank. That's my personal holy grail. I will have to attempt that when I come back from holiday

 

[Aokage]

It's actually ZOE2 and on the other monitor is a Policenauts one. So far I have not seen a Snatcher reference.

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Dr. Madnar!

Of course, that could just as easily be a Solid Snake: MG2 reference.

 

[Steroyd]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT AT FIRST BOSS.

That is all.