I'm still on Act I and the gameplay, controls and everything is superb now. I don't want to read through all these replies in fear of spoilers. But I was just looking for some impressions on the story without any spoilers please.
I felt that MGS3 had an incredibly emotional story and I loved every second of it. I also loved the story in part 1 and all the conspiracies of part 2, but the emotion of MGS3 has stuck with me more than the other games.
I'm wondering if the story in MGS4 will stick with me like MGS3 did. Can anyone give me their impressions on the story? Please no spoilers though! Thanks!
But he and EVA already had Big Boss . It makes more or less sense depending on whether you think Ocelot was truly transformed or just acting, I suppose.
It's all acting. Amazing acting. He went as far as to sever his ties with EVA even. (The scene with the apple at the end of act 3) In the very end, Ocelot never intended to ever use the railgun and actually launch a nuke. Everything that's been done was simply to motivate and point Snake into the right direction without the patriots knowing their pawn was being played against them. Ocelot honestly had several of opportunities to kill of Snake, but never really followed thru
It's all acting. Amazing acting. He went as far as to sever his ties with EVA even. (The scene with the apple at the end of act 3) In the very end, Ocelot never intended to ever use the railgun and actually launch a nuke. Everything that's been done was simply to motivate and point Snake into the right direction without the patriots knowing their pawn was being played against them. Ocelot honestly had several of opportunities to kill of Snake, but never really followed thru
Exactly. Infact, there is an easter egg in MGS4 (Act 5 spoiler)
during the last battle. If you let Ocelot CQC without you trying to counter-attack, he kisses you in the cheek When i saw that, I knew something is wrong since the kiss was more of a "YOU'RE ALMOST THERE SNAKE!!" kiss IMO, Ocelot presented the sacrifice similar to that of The Boss' sacrifice to Naked Snake.
Ok guys, my ps3 and MGS4 come soon, had a quick question, what kind of death physics does MGS 4 use? Is it ragdoll or what? Having a hard time telling.
It's all acting. Amazing acting. He went as far as to sever his ties with EVA even. (The scene with the apple at the end of act 3) In the very end, Ocelot never intended to ever use the railgun and actually launch a nuke. Everything that's been done was simply to motivate and point Snake into the right direction without the patriots knowing their pawn was being played against them. Ocelot honestly had several of opportunities to kill of Snake, but never really followed thru
Honestly, this aspect of the story kind of diminishes the game. It just seems so unnecessary and dopey, and I swear when I read people defending the decision, some of it comes across as desperate.
Again, this is easily the best gaming experience I've had so far in this generation, but parts of the ending are quite questionable.
Ok guys, my ps3 and MGS4 come soon, had a quick question, what kind of death physics does MGS 4 use? Is it ragdoll or what? Having a hard time telling.
You're right. Infact, when you look at (end spoiler)
Raiden in the end in the bed, you can literally see that its not an entire arm thats transplanted, but it's actually pieces fitted together. His jaw, his shoulder, his wrist, his arm, everything is a seperare piece
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
i figured it had to do with the way japanese words are broken into sylables (ma-mi-mu-me-mo, ta-ti-tu-te-to), and it was a play on the use 'r's for 'l's because they don't pronounce them. i don't know though.
i'm having a lot of fun running around in
the perfect new model of shadow moses
so far, and i'm just into the first couple of rooms. the intro to the level with the old gameplay made me say 'hideo you crazy bastard' out loud.
Honestly, this aspect of the story kind of diminishes the game. It just seems so unnecessary and dopey, and I swear when I read people defending the decision, some of it comes across as desperate.
Again, this is easily the best gaming experience I've had so far in this generation, but parts of the ending are quite questionable.
Some of you guys need to read my explanations I posted earlier in the thread.
On the last fight and the person in question,
Ocelot was not simply acting, he forced Liquid's personality onto himself through the use psychotherapy, hypnosis and a few other things. He had to be convincing as Liquid and acting wouldn't do by itself.
He wanted no one in the world to know his true motives beside a selected few. Oh and maybe because he knew Snake was monitored by Patriots, just like anyone else was. Infact, if he didn't send wave of dudes to get Snake, The Patriots would know something is wrong. Drebin, Rat Patrol and everyone else was under direct and indirect orders and influence from Patriots even if Snake/Otacon didn't want to work with them
.
In the end, I think
Snake and Otacon are the only survivors who know what the hell was going on
Some of you guys need to read my explanations I posted earlier in the thread.
On the last fight and the person in question,
Ocelot was not simply acting, he forced Liquid's personality onto himself through the use psychotherapy, hypnosis and a few other things. He had to be convincing as Liquid and acting wouldn't do by itself.
Honestly, this aspect of the story kind of diminishes the game. It just seems so unnecessary and dopey, and I swear when I read people defending the decision, some of it comes across as desperate.
Again, this is easily the best gaming experience I've had so far in this generation, but parts of the ending are quite questionable.
If you're asking why ocelot fought snake in the end.
If I'm not mistaken Ocelot was dying from the foxdie, so he was a goner anyways. He initially fought because he was convinced he was liquid. As the fight went on he regained more of himself. He loves to fight, big boss was his rival in MGS3, and of course snake reminds him a lot of him. So before he died he had a nice brawl with Snake. Ending with the "You're kinda good" with his hand gesture
Where can i find the statuette for the Frog encounter in the Advent Palace?
Also question for all of the game: Could some of the more skilled players share some of their strategies for the different acts? Hideo is seriously kicking my ass.
If you're asking why ocelot fought snake in the end.
If I'm not mistaken Ocelot was dying from the foxdie, so he was a goner anyways. He loves to fight, big boss was his rival in MGS3, and of course snake reminds him a lot of him. So before he died he had a nice brawl with Snake. Ending with the "You're kinda good" with his hand gesture
it wasnt about saving the world or destroying the patriots it was about regaining identity both characters actions to that point had been dictated to a large degree and that was the first chance they had to break free and become themselves again, check ocelots reaction if you dont act during the fight.
I'm trying to do a no kill/no alert run. Does anyone know if using the
Laugh bullets to turn the PMCs on each other will count as kills? I've also noticed red exclamation marks above their heads when their buddies fire on them.
But I'm only getting the caution mode. As long as I don't hear the alert sound I should be okay, yeah?
My gf was watching me play this weekend, and said she thought the game looked incredible. She said she thought she was watching a movie. I thought she was bored at 1st, but when i started explaining the story
snake's been trying to save humanity, now he's a WMD
DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU HAVE BEAT THE GAME!
wow just beat the game what a crazy ending.
running into big boss at the very end my jaw hit the floor. I was about to shit a brick when the camera moved away from snake and all you heard was the gun shot thank you kojima for not letting it end like that.
I can't wait to start my second run. Kojima did an amazing job with this game
Just hit the action packed section of Act 3. Wow...
so THOSE are who the Patriots are/were?
Also its cool how everything is finally coming full circle. I think I need to go ahead and go through Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake on the Subsistence discs after this.
Also apparently
America's Army is a tool of the Patroits
.
About future PSN releases, think past Metal Gear games are possible? Especially since they already seem to have the little banner icons ready
that one cutscene where it shows the titles and art of each game
I know 2008 is only halfway through, but this has to be GOTY. I can't imagine anything else better this year. I could be proven wrong, but, I doubt it.
my final stats suck :lol
total play time 24:05:40
continues 26
alerts 97
kills 437 >.<
recovery items used 69
weapons procured 41
flashbacks watched 160
special items used 0
DP: 210,490
Rank: Eagle
Mr brain hurts lol.
