ThatArcher
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Wow, I wasn't notified that I was infiltrated until it was already over. When I was loading in I got kicked and it showed the losses screen 
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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future
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Every time a level features a nice big building or complex to infiltrate, like
, it's a painful reminder how 90% of the game is infiltrating tiny huts. Game play is so satisfying but the locations need some serious mixing up with way more interiors.
Code Talkers mansion or the base in mission 30
I believe so, for the heavier objects like containers and vehicles. There are a few more upgrades though for the more sensitive stuff.
Eh, too many op things. It's definitely the best open world game ever though
How so? Every way I'd consider it easy to break, it breaks you back.
Except maybe distraction items. They are pretty OP. Although often the level design fucks you up to compensate.
edit: aha, you changed your wording the instant I quoted you
How did I not notice this earlier? I am so bad at this game.
matrix-cat
Member
Forget alert, you literally can't use the Cardboard Box fast-travel if a single enemy even suspects he's seen anything. If that white marker that signifies that a dude sees something pops up at any point, the delivery system shuts down immediately. I find it pretty much useless because of that. In the time it'd take me to ghost through the base to get to the delivery platform I could have just returned to the ACC and redeployed.
Yea hell bound was an awesome mission....
Does anyone know I'd there is a movie viewer mode at all.. I'd love to just be able to view cutscenes without having to replay missions
Prone makes you unstoppable.
Roni
Member
I'd make the argument every buddy is OP.
Another strategy which works in the Extreme version of it
Take Quiet with you with her highest damage sniper rifle, run to one of those 2 storey buildings with no windows and 2 blue doors and let Quiet take them out. You will only have to run out of the room when they do that move which summons a black rock that explodes onto you. They never enter the building and none of their other moves can hurt you, easy S-rank and all objectives complete.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Man, mission 29
It was an annoying fight.
CQC+shotguns=Very yes.
I never used this until now and since I havenow I won't be using it again probably.wormhole extractor
Aw, you can't do this with the
wormhole extractor
CyclopsRock
Member
I agree with the guy ages back who said that when you get spotted don't restart. It's fun.
I was doing lowly mission 5 last night and I did basically all the hard work getting into the base and ended up missing an obvious entrance to where the exfiltration guy was hanging out. So I was just tooling around a bunch. Anyway, I got spotted doing something dumb like jumping when I meant to crawl and just ran away. I planted some C4 on a jeep and ran over to the other side of the (crawling-with-guards) base. I then blew the C4 and they all went looking in that direction, allowing me to sneak up behind them all and stab them in the throat. HERO.
I was doing lowly mission 5 last night and I did basically all the hard work getting into the base and ended up missing an obvious entrance to where the exfiltration guy was hanging out. So I was just tooling around a bunch. Anyway, I got spotted doing something dumb like jumping when I meant to crawl and just ran away. I planted some C4 on a jeep and ran over to the other side of the (crawling-with-guards) base. I then blew the C4 and they all went looking in that direction, allowing me to sneak up behind them all and stab them in the throat. HERO.
You can.
You need to do side ops.
I agree in terms of the freedom we have to tackle each area and how well animated BB is. It feels very satisfying. However, I feel like a merge between this and Splinter Cell (Chaos Theory in mind) would be orgasmic.
Imagine MGSV with a couple more gadgets and moves that reinforce the great core of stealth that it already has. The level design, while open and great, could be better designed to take more advantage of the stealth aspect of the game. Like other ways to take down enemies from above or below, better or more varied ways to infiltrate each area. The infiltration design in Chaos Theory was great. In CT we also had some cool gadgets that helped elevate that stealth sense and atmosphere, some of which MGSV could've had.
Granted, these are two different games in terms of scope so it might not be as easy or as effective to implement that design to MGSV, they also take place in different timelines, but still...
I believe, that at the time, I was more satisfied with Chaos Theory's stealth gameplay, although I'm having a shit load of fun with MGSV.
This is not a shot I'm taking at MGV btw... I'm enjoying the gameplay a LOT, but sometimes I feel like it could've had a few more things to push the stealth aspect into the stratosphere.
So that's how you do it. I kept falling off when I tried it last night. Good to know.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Hey guys, just a question on the story very late game.
So after going back to the hospital, do you go after Eli? I'm guessing I just need to do lots more missions.
Where are these? Are they on each base, outpost, etc?
How does it work? If I'm with D-Horse traversing the map at any give moment (for example), can I fast travel from the iDroid? That would be sweet.
yeah it'll be in your main mission list. I failed the first time. Second time was hilarious: I tranq'd a guy walking down from the very top platform. The commander saw it and poked his head around to see down the stairs. Shot him in the head with my precision rifle and completed the mission from the ground level lolol.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
So yeah I'm pretty sure I'm on the last few stretches and I guess I could super distil my overall thoughts at this point down to MGSV having the best core game systems and play space of any game in the series, marginally let down by an open world and overall game vision that could do with a bit more diversity and emergent behaviour in AI, events, and locations, mostly let down by a plot and mission pacing that to me is glaringly unpolished and unfinished. It's basically a game with an excellent core, wrapped in a package that's showing a lot of tears and rough edges. My gut says KojiPro dreamed very big and ran into development issues at two ends: firstly seeing that vision through on a new engines with no experience making open world games, resulting in a lot of changes throughout development, content cutting, optimising, reworking, and so on. And butting heads with Konami who wanted to see the game out sooner rather than later.
Overall I'm very happy with what we got, even if I would have preferred a more polished complete experience, if just because the core game plays so incredibly well that I'm much more forgiving of the other weaknesses (especially since one of those, narratives, hinges on something I personally feel the series has struggled with since MGS3).
Overall I'm very happy with what we got, even if I would have preferred a more polished complete experience, if just because the core game plays so incredibly well that I'm much more forgiving of the other weaknesses (especially since one of those, narratives, hinges on something I personally feel the series has struggled with since MGS3).
first time hearing about a phone app
I was failing because I was trying to stealth, in the end
I just ran straight to the other base and climbed up a drain, missile launched the commander in the face and was done with it
I'm surprised Konami isn't pushing for DLC to finish up the story. Seems like an ideal cash grab.
I guess. But it is slow, yo. And sometimes we need fast.
Holy fuck. I noticed it was easily broken, but I didn't realise it was that tough. Bloody hell. That has ruined it for me. If they were in easier to reach places, it wouldn't be an issue, but often they're right in the middle of a base.
Yeah, shit. It also has an internal game structure which perfectly lends itself to DLC. Just a few more missions on the iDroid, a new AO to go to.
Wow, I actually hope they do this, now. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
It's classic. Or at least, it was in Ground Zeroes where it definitely worked. It's basically the iDroid on your phone: map, cassette tapes and all. You can even listen to tapes while walking about in day to day life, like it's a podcast.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Hey couple of quick questions:
Is there any point in capturing animals?
And
How do decoys work? I imagine once I set one down if a guard see's it he will go towards it, but won't he just raise an alert?
Is there any point in capturing animals?
And
How do decoys work? I imagine once I set one down if a guard see's it he will go towards it, but won't he just raise an alert?
GZ had one too. The app is basically the iDroid. You can do most everything on the app instead of pulling it up on your iDroid in-game. Problem is that the app wont connect to the game. Dunno if it has to do with Konami's shitty server issues or not.
It not being like other MGS games is probably why it's the best stealth game ever.
They're more useful for distracting guards once an alert has been sounded or for knocking fools off cliffs.
Does it work with the PC version
I just discovered how incredible Super Metroid's soundtrack is as the helicopter music. Ridley's boss theme is great for hauling ass out of a mission you fucked up. Really nails the Alien escape sequence vibe.
Samus Aran's theme is the most badass victory announcement there is. Hearing the chopper come in makes me feel like I could fulton Mother Brain.
Samus Aran's theme is the most badass victory announcement there is. Hearing the chopper come in makes me feel like I could fulton Mother Brain.
I've had enough of your bullshit trolling.
I don't see why it wouldn't. Search for it on the app store on your phone.
End game question, regarding mission 45
So I know that in order to unlock mission 45 you need to have completed Side OP 150 which I assume is where you loose Quiet. I currently have the Butterfly emblem equiped since Quiet is my favorite Buddy and I'm not ready to loose her just yet. So I wonder is it safe to do mission 46 and whatever else comes after and pretty much save Side OP 150 and mission 45 until pretty much the very end or will I mess things up and not be able to get the true ending doing it like this?
You have to trigger decoys like C4. So put it in the place you want it, hit Triangle, and the guards will go check it out. They realise it's fake quite soon, though.
They're super useful for stopping vehicles in the wilderness, though. If you see an A++ or S rank driver going along, plant a decoy somewhere else on his supply route and wait for the truck to come by again. Release the decoy in the road, they'll get out to stop it, you run up and nab them both. Killer move. Almost impossible to get those guys otherwise imo.
You can also just shoot at the truck or shoot out the tyres (haven't shot the tyres on a truck yet but definitely on a jeep) and they will stop and get out to investigate. If you're using a suppressor, they will not know your location.
matrix-cat
Member
There's a Trophy for capturing all types of animal, and you'll get a separate zoo platform for Mother Base where you can go and see everything you've caught. Certain animals can be worth a good chunk of GMP, too.
Decoys are basically a better version of the magazines you can throw. It doesn't set off an alert, it just draws their attention for as long as it takes them to go and pop it. You can also set them in the road to get enemy vehicles to stop. They're great.
Rockman Wright
Banned
i read something a few pages ago about
how do i prevent that?
Also an other question about fulton :
Can someone tell me how to get the
losing quiet
how do i prevent that?
I already maxed her out! And i read on an other website that we shouldn't use the butterfly on the emblem, to unlock the secret mission 46.... is it where we lose her? Should i play this mission at the very end when i completed every other missions to see what happen, they said it was an important part of the story?
Also an other question about fulton :
Can someone tell me how to get the
rank 5 fulton? i just got the rank 6 fulton, but it seems there's aslo a rank 5!
Derp.
I researched that 15 hours ago, haven't used it once, and forget all about it whenever it's most useful.
What I hate the most is not what the game lacks, is that there probably won't be a game that fixes these issues.
I mean there is so much untapped potential that will never be realized.
They explicitly said it doesn't and it didn't work for GZ on PC either.
I think the big issue for me is the open world level design combined with fultons means there's really no such thing as guard routes or getting spotted because you either whisk everyone away or kill/tranq the 2-3 guards in that general area.
Compare that to games like Thief and Splinter Cell where you need to plan things out and wait for the right moment to take out someone or be able to slip past them.
Its just a difference of design though, but it's why I think it's a very good stealth game and not a brilliant one
Also besides a few missions you actually don't even need to go far in somewhere and then think about getting out and I don't think it's a coincidence that those are the most tense and enjoyable levels