Wouldn't you also lose all the resources processed by the FOB during that period? I guarantee you the potential losses from invasion pale in comparison to that.
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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future
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Yes, but who cares about those resources when you can get about as much as the F.O.B.'s automatic mining just doing
Mission 21's airport, checkpoint, quit to ACC, rinse and repeat for 7000 fuel etc.
I agree 100%. This is very NOT Metal Gear to me. Like just give me the story and don't hide it behind some little trick like this.
Strangelove77
Member
Any glitches or loopholes that I can take advantage of so I can do the harder missions? The subsistence ones are a pain.
I'm too used to having the best gear.
I'm too used to having the best gear.
Yes, but if you want the benefit of expanded staff without the risk of losing them, I think this is the only way around it.
Which ones? I'm on 40 and nothing is hard yet? Maybe you're just doing them the wrong way?
kahboomkin
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If you want to see the end of her story, get her bond up and play normally. Side-Op 150 will trigger towards the end of the game and she will be unavailable for future missions. Using the butterfly as your Motherbase emblem prevents the missions from starting and forces her to stay.
Because doing that puts unprocessed fuel into your Motherbase which processes separately from the FOB. So you're losing out on the processing being done from the FOB. I mean really if you're going to be so paranoid about FOB and resort to that, you might as well be save editing your file for max resources and staff.
Wait, I just finished 13, and re: your second question,
did you mean Kaz? Or is Paz in this game and I've missed an opportunity to trigger a scene with her?
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
(Spoilers)
The "trick" is how you avoid triggering the story event. Equip the Butterfly on your emblem and the even will not happen. If you play the game without equipping the Butterfly on your emblem, the event will occur automatically.
I actually have a question about it.
Is it really irreversible? Is it really impossible to use that character as a buddy even after beating everything in the game? No new game plus anything? If so, that is truly disappointing, since the game has only a persistent save system, no way to reload to previous points, or start over without losing everything... I almost want to just avoid that outcome altogether and just watch the conclusion if that's the case. Could someone please confirm whether the final part of the game is really worth playing?
Zombie James
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Spazznid
Member
PC Mods.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Are you on ps4?
Do both.
backup a save before initiating those events.
then play them and judge for yourself.
If you found it not worth it restore the save
Yes, mod the walker with a Quiet skin. Picture that. Boss be Ridin.
Except you get MORE from doing that in a shorter time than the F.O.B.'s automatic mining.
Mine does 200 fuel. The above does 7000 unprocessed. Within the same timeframe, I'm still going to be processing that 7000 (and more if I exploit checkpoints) over the what... 1,000? 3,000? automatic mining.
MvmntInGrn
Member
Can't you equip the older one though?
I don't know because I haven't bothered upgrading the helicopter any.
Empty Space
Member
Plant c4 on the ground and lure one over it. It does an obscene amount of damage to them.
thanks i'll try that out
Yes. But our point is, if you want to USE the upgrades you have to eat a significant cost to use it. It's not just the cost of developing it, to DEPLOY you have to eat more than the defaults. So... why would you use the upgrades?
I get what they want to go for (manage your costs and deployment costs) but it is kinda counter-intuitive that the costs blow up more for a few more rounds and a bit more stopping power along with faster helicopter deployment speed.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Question about the quarantine:
Gah. Disaster!
Is language the only way to determine who may be infected? Half of my army speaks Kikongo! Will they get better? Will all of them die? If I extract more soldiers with that language, do I move them as well? I have a few soldiers with a cross on the box, and I can't move them to quarantine yet.
Gah. Disaster!
But it's not an either/or situation, you can just do both. FOB invasions can't take any resources from the stuff you've fultoned in the game. So reverting your save only means that you don't get the processed materials from the FOB and save a few staff members that might have been lost in invasions.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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asked last night, did not get a response... perhaps that means no.
but
Can you snipe chopper pilots through the cockpit? Those gunships are a bitch to take down without an RPG, and I'd like to think a well aimed shot straight into the pilots head will do the trick?
but
Can you snipe chopper pilots through the cockpit? Those gunships are a bitch to take down without an RPG, and I'd like to think a well aimed shot straight into the pilots head will do the trick?
BigBadGiantHand
Member
With out spoiling too much (yes, I'm aware how stupid this sounds), what kind of stuff was cut?
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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Quiet won't do it though. *tears*
If you're on PC, there's a mod to fix it but it's currently not layman friendly
https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgears...spoiler_about_quiet_mgsv_mod_tools_dont_read/
i think she keeps aiming for the rotor of the chopper.
Quarantine them. I only lost 3 guys
MvmntInGrn
Member
Doesn't seem counter-intuitive, seems like exactly what they were going for. An economy system. While combat is more viable a play style than ever it is clear that they want to keep the game from just being a bombing run on every mission. Even the story is frequently mentioning cost and logistics of war.
And that's what most of us care about. Most of us don't care about F.O.B. processed minerals when again, you can get a faster increase doing checkpoint exploiting at airports for the same increase.
"Oh but they're entirely separate?!"
Again: Who cares? Oh noes, the 200-3,000 minerals that I could've gotten in a 24 hour period and have had stolen along with staff is lost! *yawn and revert to save that doesn't have staff loss and get 7,000+ within 5 minutes of play start*
No, I get that. Bombing Runs and Resupply drops? Sure, eat my GMP.
Me wanting to get to a mission within 30 seconds over the two minute intro swooping in? No, don't eat my fucking GMP for upgrading for the sake of "better performance."
Move all of those, it's the ONLY WAY
Alt method (and answer to if it goes away)
do like 3 story missions lol
The Dear Leader
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Can someone explain something about an emblem in a non spoilery way please?
I know it involves Quiet somehow, that I have to use a butterfly emblem, I'm just not sure on when I should use and for how long, any non spoilery help would be much appreciated.
Your 7000+ number is only unprocessed resources which can only be processed while you're actively playing the game. The staff you lose are randomly selected and even then if you're actively fultoning out enemies you end up having a glut of surplus staff. So what happens is you end up LOSING all the processed materials from the FOB when you revert your save. And processed materials (fuel) is the most important resource in the game for MB progression. You're not just losing 1 type of processed resource, you're losing ALL the processed resource by the FOB during the time frame where you were offline.
LordOcidax
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After playing a few Metal Gear games... Can the series be (considered) as a Satire-Fantasy type? Whats do you think?
You have to meet certain requirements to get it. If you aren't using it by a certain point in the story something happens.
A satire of fantasy? No, not really. Some joke weapons and stuff that makes no sense exists, but in no way is mgs made with the purpose of satire.
The Dear Leader
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razgriz417
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Yea but if you don't want any spoilers it will be difficult to say exactly.
To be safe use it before you do Mission
29
You rush the missions alone and it should be fine. A lot of people recommend it. I would not, just do it the way the game intended.
The Dear Leader
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I'm past that point but I appreciate the answer, I'll probably have to do a second playthrough at this point lol.
razgriz417
Member
yeah some of those took a while and i did have a buddy during all 3. Man was it a costly mistake to recover from