Metroid: Samus Returns Review Thread
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I hate the hardware, but man it delivered on the software front.
foxuzamaki
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Empyrean Heaven
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Hopefully the positive reception will lead to incredible sales, and incredible sales will lead to Nintendo enlisting MercuryStream for another, hopefully original take on 2.5D Metroid. I Dread to think of what they can do with a unique story and scenario.
Get yourself any of the new systems (2DS XL/3DS/3DS XL) and you will change your mind. I have one of the black friday models and love it.
Get yourself any of the new systems (2DS XL/3DS/3DS XL) and you will change your mind. I have one of the black friday models and love it.
That's the thing I have a hard time putting into words: yes, she does have all the moves you mention, I'm well aware of that. But most of it, to me, looked more like the result of her technology being upgraded and allowing her to perform feats only a machine/robot could achieve. Even Fusion still retained some of that feel.
By contrast, Other M/3DS Samus Returns Samus feels like she is this super ninja from the get-go. She feels like the suit is just cosmetics. Part of the feel comes from how she physically looks (much leaner than in previous incarnations), and part of it comes from how she runs and how quickly she moves about. Also, the finishing moves. I'm sure many would find this to be a nitpick, and that's fine. More power to you if you like/don't mind this particular take on Samus. I don't. It feels like somebody else in the suit.
I do agree that Prime leaned in on the heaviness though. But that's less of a problem because, to me, she was always more of a heavy character than an acrobat. Yes, even with the spring jump and all.
If I had to invent a comparable situation, it would be as if Nintendo started to give Mario a bit too much firepower: yes, he has the fire flower and the starman and the hammer bros. suit. He's used power ups and weapons before. Does that make him a gunslinger/ranged attacker? No. He's a jumping fat plumber who runs somewhat fat and can gain some magic powers for a bit, that's it.
That's kinda how this Samus feels to me. I think I don't like the idea that you're in this very hostile, lonely, creepy environment, yet you're acting all cool, pulling off QTE finishers and counters and running like Naruto is your tight-fitting suit. Past Samus felt more methodical, deliberate and to-the-point. Like a bounty hunter.
So? I'm not saying other reviewers are wrong to like it. People will like what they like. I'm saying this particular review resonated with my impressions. The fact that it's Eurogamer is the cherry on top, as I usually find their content pretty good.
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Glad it's reviewing well, gonna pick it up Friday. Now to wait...a long time for Metroid Prime 4 then.
DeuceGamer
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Is this the highest rated game that Mercury Steam has ever developed? Nintendo elevating another studio. Hopefully, this is the start of future projects for both.
Also, I can't believe we are merely days away from a new (sorta) 2D Metroid that is a return to the classics. With Super Metroid one of my all-time favorites I am getting super hyped.
Also, I can't believe we are merely days away from a new (sorta) 2D Metroid that is a return to the classics. With Super Metroid one of my all-time favorites I am getting super hyped.
TheDinoman
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No, enough with the remakes. Metroid 1 & 2 needed them because of how old and archaic they are. We don't need remakes of any of the other games, especially Super.
Just move on and make Metroid 5 already. It's hard to believe that they haven't continued the series' storyline since 2002.
The Last One
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Nice reviews!
Patterbits
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Wait do people think an 8.5 isn't like, really good?
Exactly, I think that the astonishing number of good games is only held back by the hardware itself. The screens don't really do justice to the wonderful titles published on the system. But man, there's a lot of good shit to play on it (without even considering DS titles and Virtual Console).
And Metroid. And Metroid 2. You're pretty damn slow in those games.
GeekyDad
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Yeah, that's kinda what I mean. There have been complaints that the new radar system makes it too easy to find things, but when the game challenges you to be resourceful or think outside the box, then there's criticism about that as well. I don't know...it just seems like those kinds of riddling moments are what these games are all about.
This has been something that has been going on for years now. Not that I agree with them.
Vampirolol
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I'm confident they won't remake Super Metroid in the near future. But maybe we're going to see another 2D Metroid, who knows...
Well that bit started in zero mission, heck Id argue that it started in fusion as her power suit was basically a gun and a helmet and we had a weakened samus that had barely survived the X doing flips all around.
It's my Zelda machine.
I have over THIRTEEN Zelda games on the pocket-sized powerhouse.
And SEVEN Metroid titles can be played on it.
The Main Event
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So much green.
Hell nah. There's absolutely nothing they can do to improve upon perfection.
Hell nah. There's absolutely nothing they can do to improve upon perfection.
Just scoring above Lords of Shadow.
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Why the hell did people like Lords of Shadow so much?
It's in the top 2.2% of all time reviews scored on OpenCritic, how is that not cream of the crop? Have fun with you're "real" games, I guess.
eXistor
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You can't remake perfection.
I was just happy a new big-budget Castlevania was being made. Looking back, the game was kinda pants, but they did a few things right at least.
Cuz it was legit good, MoF and LoS2 tho ...
FloweryMarston
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i loved lords of shadow. Mostly because of the environments, full of pretty scenes
balladofwindfishes
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Wall jumping could be made a bit easier to do. A hot key for firing missiles, like Fusion, would be nice as well.
These are not important enough fixes to remake a game, though
Is that by design or due to the limitations of those machines? Considering that every design cue the series has had comes straight from Super, I'm inclined to believe the latter.
If they remade Super, it would be worse. There's no question about that.
IMO, Sakamoto needs to make a Metroid that focuses on exploration. Not story or combat. But I get the impression he won't, because that's not what he wants to do with the series. And until he does, Metroid's not evolving past Super Metroid.
ThePeoplesBureau
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Give it a year or two, the 3DS is destined to become the subject of hundreds of 'top 75' lists decrying it as yet another system of 'hidden gems', the majority of which were all clearly in plain sight during its lifetime.
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It's interesting to me how there is a divide on this game between those that love it and those who are disappointed. That variance is probably good and what we should realistically expect to see with more game reviews, though.
I'm only really seeing that divide in 1 or 2 reviews. The vast majority of them fucking love the game.
dancrane212
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I'm still not sold on the art style or combat but I'm pleased to see this score so well. Metroid II was my entry point to the series so getting to play a second remake/reimagining is more than welcome.
For Metroid 1 at least, it was by design. They made the levels then increased Samus's speed a bit and found out that she was too fast to maneuver in the space. Something to that effect at least.
Edit: No I'm wrong. They thought Samus moved too slow, increased her movement speed, then also made bigger levels.
Took me 19 hours to 100%, but I heard someone else say they got 100% in like 13 hours. I know someone else who finished it in 7.5 hours (not going for 100%). I imagine if you know what you're doing, you can blaze through it fairly quickly (3-4 hours?).
It's likely the design changed as the series progressed, in the same way we've long abandoned the floaty jump still present in Super Metroid.
Looks a blind playthrough is 6-7 hours without going for 100% items, with that one looking to be 10+ hours. Very meaty for a 2D Metroid, to say the least.
That's longer than/as long as Super Metroid. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a significant post-Queen addition.
The only remake that should be left for Metroid is Metroid Prime Trilogy HD with new controls. The 2D games are totally ready for a new chapter.