MGS 5 or Witcher 3?

Get to the awful second half of Metal Gear and see if you have that same tone.

They are literally opposites. Witcher gets stronger over time. Has a great narrative and tries to add meaning to each quest. However the combat is rather clunky.

MGS5 might be the best stealth game ever made, but completely stumbles over itself in a disjointed narrative and one of the worst second halfs of any game out there.

I love Metal Gear but I've never turned on a game harder. It's an unfinished game with no satisfactory conclusion, and a story that never ever comes together.

Glad someone said it. At this point I feel more like "Big HR" rather than "Big Boss".

Were the gameplay not so good in MGSV the writing, that at this point I am convinced is literally trying to kill the game intentionally, would have succeeded. Points for that I guess.
 
Just one thing about The Witcher 3: marking Points of Interest on the map was a mistake. Turning them on by default was a HUGE mistake.

The FIRST thing you MUST do is turn them off and forget they exist. And there you have it, one of the best games ever.
 
I think it's a pretty interesting discussion even if the games aren't directly comparable since mostly everyone here is in a qualified position to talk about the strengths and weaknesses of each game. Since its multiplatform I'm assuming most people in this thread have actually purchased and played both of them (me)... rather than just saying gears is better than uncharted ad nasuaeum because that's their platform of choice.

You just get another brand of stupid in these kinds of discussions.
 
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Im gonna get Witcher 3 for now, and it
being only $40 at Best Buy right now is icing on the cake! Im still gonna pick up MGS5 at some point too when i have more cash.

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Noooo, MGS crew, we have failed...

Hope you enjoy Witcher
 
This is why i love GAF so much, thank you all!!!

Im gonna get Witcher 3 for now, and it
being only $40 at Best Buy right now is icing on the cake! Im still gonna pick up MGS5 at some point too when i have more cash.

Thanks again you all!!! :))

Good choice. You really won't go wrong with either - they're both incredible in their own right.
 
I still haven't finished Witcher. I don't know if I ever will. It's too long, the combat is janky as fuck, and there's way too much micromanagement.

Mgs5 is really amazing though. It's better than Witcher in nearly every way. But most importantly, the actual gameplay is fun.
 
i'm actually surprised by the number of MGS5 fans that totally crap on Witcher 3.. i thought there would be more overlap where both are held in high regard.

There's an equal number of people against MGSV too apparently. Both are fantastic games which do different things.
 
This is why i love GAF so much, thank you all!!!

Im gonna get Witcher 3 for now, and it
being only $40 at Best Buy right now is icing on the cake! Im still gonna pick up MGS5 at some point too when i have more cash.

Thanks again you all!!! :))

You'll love it. But do pick up MGS V as well somewhere down the line. It's a good game, if not a great one.
 
I still haven't finished Witcher. I don't know if I ever will. It's too long, the combat is janky as fuck, and there's way too much micromanagement.

Mgs5 is really amazing though. It's better than Witcher in nearly every way. But most importantly, the actual gameplay is fun.

errr....

wait 'till you have to repetitively go through a menu ~200 times doing the same thing ad infinitum. Those that have finished MSGV know what I'm talking about.
 
I'd say if you want to spend 40 - 50 hours in a game pick MGSV but if you want to spend upwards of 100, go with Witcher 3.
 
Both are great so it ultimately depends on what your looking for. TW3 is a more story oriented title which features an open world containing a pretty big variety of different things to do (Gwent's just the best). The quests and side-quests are pretty great and the world is pretty well-realized. Where it falters is the mechanical side of things. I found the combat to be poorly refined, though far better then TW2's but still quiet simplistic and poor. It's not a very difficult game either and some of the later-game boss fights are straight up tedious. Overall, a fantastic title held back by its mediocre gameplay components.

MGSV, I feel is the opposite. It's fantastic because it gives you a sandbox (I don't consider it an open world really) that gives you a variety of different ways to tackle any given objective or mission. This gives it both a great amount of replayability and kind of pushes me to "perfect" missions in my own style. It's MGS, so I won't even bother mentioning the story. And the gameplay is simply polished and top of the line. Stealth games don't really get a whole lot better then this.

My own preference would be MGSV, as I value mechanics and gameplay above all else and I felt that that was TW3's biggest weakness.
 
Yeah, except I'm given a variety of options to get to that. In the Witcher I can swing my sword in some half-assed sword play or use the two magic spells the game's leveling system let me level up all the way.
Well no. In Witcher 3, you could sometimes talk your way out of combat or manipulate target with axii. There is at least one major confrontation that involves Triss that player should avoid fighting. There are also multiple ways player can approach certain plot area. For example, it's possible to anger Bloody Baron's men and you have to sneak in from a different route.
 
Glad someone said it. At this point I feel more like "Big HR" rather than "Big Boss".

Were the gameplay not so good in MGSV the writing, that at this point I am convinced is literally trying to kill the game intentionally, would have succeeded. Points for that I guess.

Most people are probably too early in the game to see all of this unfold. I expect once people actually start finishing the game, a lot of polarizing opinions are going to emerge. The spoiler thread already has a lot of criticism and back and forth talk about the huge drop off this game has.
 
Glad someone said it. At this point I feel more like "Big HR" rather than "Big Boss".

Were the gameplay not so good in MGSV the writing, that at this point I am convinced is literally trying to kill the game intentionally, would have succeeded. Points for that I guess.

Personally I think the last act in Witcher 3 is easily the weakest as well. Love the game overall, but the last arc and the villains was something of an anti-climax.
The Wild Hunt and the Red Riders are pretty generic and uninteresting when the mystery is pealed back

Haven't played much MGSV but the intro is really intense. More impressive than the W3 intro that is for sure.
 
Every fight in Witcher 3 basically boiled down to the same thing for me, keep my shield up, roll around, stun with Axii and attack. This is was on the hardest difficulty too. I tried using bombs + signs, but most of them felt far too ineffective. Alchemy was too much of a pain to use before each fight, especially when without it the job got done just as easily. The combat systems basically gives you no reason to not do what works. With MGS I can at least stealth, then when I get caught and all shit breaks lose I have to improvise with what I have. The same thing gets done, sure, but never in the same way.

Also the horse is way better in MGS.

Lets not do this, you can tell what you dislike about a game, but making a list like you did is reductionist to what the game is, and I could very well make a same list for MGSV, at the end, Open World Games will use repetitive task, MGSV even if YOU feel it doesn't do that, it does in fact have repetitive task, it doesnt matter if YOU decide to do the same task over and over with different approachs.

Then How you played Witcher 3 is up to you, if you decided to put your shield up and Axi attack, I pretty much can say I could go and do every mission in MGS by luring the guards and then Tranquilizer gun, at the end is the player that decides how he will complete his task, but at the end both Witcher and MGSV will have repetitive task to do and is up to the player to choose how to complete it
 
Most people are probably too early in the game to see all of this unfold. I expect once people actually start finishing the game, a lot of polarizing opinions are going to emerge. The spoiler thread already has a lot of criticism and back and forth talk about the huge drop off this game has.

is the drop off due to the story or the gameplay? if it's the former, it doesn't bother me

Lets not do this, you can tell what you dislike about a game, but making a list like you did is reductionist to what the game is, and I could very well make a same list for MGSV, at the end, Open World Games will use repetitive task, MGSV even if YOU feel it doesn't do that, it does in fact have repetitive task, no matter, if YOU decide to do the same task over and over in a different approach.

Then How ou played Witcher 3 is up to you, if you decided to put your shield up and Axi attack, I pretty much can say I could go and do every mission in MGS by luring the guards and then Tranquilizer gun, at the end is the player that decides how he will complete his task, but at the end both Witcher and MGSV will have repetitive task to do and is up to the player to choose how to complete it

the fact is that mgs sets up situations for you to vary your gameplay, the witcher doesn't.
 
Surprised to see so many people prefer The Witcher 3's writing over MGSV. They're both schlocky genre nonsense but at least MGS is self-aware and bizarre, therefore interesting.
 
Both are flawed in some very unique and begrudging ways, but Witcher 3 ultimately left me far more satsfied despite.
 
I was really bored playing the witcher but I can't put mgsv down, so... You know my vote.


Yup, I'm the same way. Witcher 3 is a fine game, but for some reason the content loop just didn't grab me. MGSV does an incredible job of interlocking deep, rewarding missions with gameplay systems that keep you playing. There's always something to do, and you're always progressing towards something.
 
Depends on whether you want:
a) Good gameplay
b) A good story
c) A good open world to explore

If it's a), go with MGS. If it's b) or c), go with The Witcher 3.

Ultimately I'd advise the Witcher.

MGS V has really good stealth gameplay but The Witcher 3 does everything else (open world, writing, story, side-activities) much better.

So The Witcher 3 is an easy choice for me.

This about sums it up.
 
Personally I think the last act in Witcher 3 is easily the weakest as well. Love the game overall, but the last arc and the villains was something of an anti-climax.
The Wild Hunt and the Red Riders are pretty generic and uninteresting when the mystery is pealed back

Haven't played much MGSV but the intro is really intense. More impressive than the W3 intro that is for sure.

If you played the prologue of MGSV...

Anyway it will be interesting which climax you think was most anticlimactic. I very much enjoyed the tone and themes of MGSV overall, but I'm not sure anybody can defend the ending of the game as strong.
 
MGSV easily imo

MGSV has the skeleton of a great game with slightly underwhelming flesh, TW3 is the opposite. Not played it since the patch, but controlling Geralt just feels like a clunky means to an end, where simply being in control of BB and getting on with things is a joy in and of itself.

Not completed either, put about 100 hours into TW3 and 40 into MGSV so far. Will go back to TW3 after finishing MGS and Until Dawn I think.
 
is the drop off due to the story or the gameplay? if it's the former, it doesn't bother me

It's both. Entire second half is mostly comprised of
repeats of old missions on harder difficulties, and revisiting old locations for side-ops. The story is unfinished and has no ending. It leaves multiple threads open.

That IMO to me is one of the biggest sins a game can make. It's almost worse than the bland shit that Ubisoft pulls off with it's activities systems.
 
Like both games, but I have way too much investment in the Metal Gear Solid saga to not pick it. Both in my opinion put the Triple AAA games industry to shame though, a lot to do and non of it is tedious. I'm looking at you Watch_Dogs.
 
This is why i love GAF so much, thank you all!!!

Im gonna get Witcher 3 for now, and it
being only $40 at Best Buy right now is icing on the cake! Im still gonna pick up MGS5 at some point too when i have more cash.

Thanks again you all!!! :))

MGSV is a better game, but you are making the most cost-effective choice since you plan to play them both at some point. Go for it.

Also I would be surprised if it's not available for even cheaper than $40 somewhere, though I don't know for sure.
 
Surprised to see so many people prefer The Witcher 3's writing over MGSV. They're both schlocky genre nonsense but at least MGS is self-aware and bizarre, therefore interesting.

I don't see what is so surprising. The writing in TW3 is generally considered one of the high water marks in videogame writing.
 
If we pointed out every mundane aspect there wouldn't be an actual aspect to enjoy because everyone would have different views on which is more mundane. I see why they say "a waking simulator", but in reality its defamation of the genre itself by alluding to just one aspect.

It isn't taking the first person view or so forth into question, so I wouldn't like to put one game above the other. Rather I'd say which world or fantasy would you rather have.

They both do tremendous jobs as being 3rd person games. They also do a great job at delivering aspects of the world or timeline they're in too.
 
But yo TC real talk although I said mgs V is better they are both 10/10 games. You can't go wrong with either.so get what you like bro.
 
is the drop off due to the story or the gameplay? if it's the former, it doesn't bother me



the fact is that mgs sets up situations for you to vary your gameplay, the witcher doesn't.

You still will do repeated task that can be solve using the same means, just like the Witcher, and it was the point of your whole original list to begin with.
 
Surprised to see so many people prefer The Witcher 3's writing over MGSV. They're both schlocky genre nonsense but at least MGS is self-aware and bizarre, therefore interesting.

The Witcher 3 respects your time, has characters with actually human and believable motivations that you care about and a defined beginning and end. Those points alone put it an order of magnitude ahead of MGSV before we even get into the quality of the dialogue, voice acting, pacing, quality of side-stories etc.

Witcher 3 runs like shit on PS4 so avoid at all cost.

I thought it ran just fine. I wouldn't be swayed by performance points unless your a pixel-peeper. The game is far more beautiful than MGS due to being 30fps and I think it's a good trade.
 
Well both are great games. If your into fanstasy rpgs get W3. If you like stealth action with rpg like elements then go for MGS5. On the plus side both will get more stuff added to them like W3s upcoming expasions and the free dlc. MGS5 will get MGO later on and the invasion like pvp looks fun. Either way your not making a bad choice with either one. They are both time consuming and worth the purchase.
 
I'd say The Witcher 3 since I'm not enjoying MGSV anywhere close to the same way I liked Witcher 3. Don't get me wrong MGS is a good game, but The Witcher 3 was fantastic from start to finish and there was so much more to it.
 
Both are amazing. I prefer the Witcher 3 since I enjoy a more narrative-focused game, but MGSV's gameplay is top notch and hella fun.
 
Witcher 3 is my GOTY for this year so far. Absolutely incredible game.

Haven't played MGSV yet but I'm sure it's great as well. Really can't go wrong with either but it just depends what type of game you're looking for right now. They both offer drastically different experiences.
 
the fact is that mgs sets up situations for you to vary your gameplay, the witcher doesn't.

Hum, yeah it does?
For example, you played a Geralt focused on swords; you can play full potion, it's perfectly viable
(and actually more powerfull than the sword with the correct concoctions)
. Just because you didn't use the possibilities doesn't mean they aren't there.
There's also a couple quest where talking and dialogue choice actually completely changes the quest.

Just one thing about The Witcher 3: marking Points of Interest on the map was a mistake. Turning them on by default was a HUGE mistake.

The FIRST thing you MUST do is turn them off and forget they exist. And there you have it, one of the best games ever.

OP, as you've chosen TW3, listen to this man.
 
Everybody seems to be missing out on my point. When someone called TW3 side quests repetitive, I replied with how MGS V's side quests are also recycled. Sure you can tackle them however you want, and that's great. I prefer some story to my side quests, while others prefer freedom of execution. And TW3 definitely delivers on the story front.

It's a video game though. I understand story context but if it isn't fun to play who cares?
 
Everybody seems to be missing out on my point. When someone called TW3 side quests repetitive, I replied with how MGS V's side quests are also recycled. Sure you can tackle them however you want, and that's great. I prefer some story to my side quests, while others prefer freedom of execution. And TW3 definitely delivers on the story front.

It's not about freedom. It's about tactility and responsiveness. The things that make pressing buttons fun. In Witcher you just kind of slide through the game. In Metal Gear there's a rigidity that you can hold onto thanks to the gameplay.

Not saying Wither is a bad game, just expressing the difference between them.
 
It's a video game though. I understand story context but if it isn't fun to play who cares?

MGS V side ops are boring as shit as well though.
"Run about until you find and blow up the land mines!"

I ain't played The Witcher III so I can't answer the OP, but let's not pretend (as very very good as it is) that MGSV isn't slightly lacking in some aspects.
 
Witcher 3 is the better game, has an actual decent story and amazing graphics, though I played on PC where performance isn't really an issue and would hate to play W3 on PS4. So if PS4 is your only option, I'd go with MGSV simply for the 60 fps.
 
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