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[Disaster Nebraska]

who is misterxmedia?

He uses terms like "local Cloud power" to try to explain how/why the X1 hardware is going to outperform the PS4's hardware.

 

[rokkerkory]

I am just hoping for even a 5-10% improvement for X1.

 

[ekim]

There is someone who see this article ---> http://gamingbolt.com/dx12-may-allow-xbox-one-to-save-gpu-time-render-ray-tracing-superfog-and-custom-effects ?

If anyone can comment on this article?

The source on reddit simply used ray tracing and superfog as examples - he could've also said "DX12 FeatureXYZ". I don't know how that "journalist" sees that as a proof that there is an actual DX12 SuperFog feature. lol

 

[kensama]

It's the real deal.

Don't know how interpret your picture

 

[kensama]

The source on reddit simply used ray tracing and superfog as examples - he could've also said "DX12 FeatureXYZ". I don't know how that "journalist" sees that as a proof that there is an actual DX12 SuperFog feature. lol

Yes.
In fact the article on Gamingbolt has as source reddit. It can explain it.

 

[Dark_AnNiaLatOr]

I really hope some miracle can happen and the Xbox One does indeed somehow become more efficient and outputs better graphics. I know graphics aren't the most important thing, but it feels bad to have a console more powerful than the one you own, although I don't own either yet. PC users might reply to this post, but that's something I don't care about. I'm only talking about the superHD twins.

 

[polyh3dron]

So DirectX 12 will allow devs to get a little closer to the hardware, that's what I'm gathering from this.

 

[Jedi2016]

So DirectX 12 will allow devs to get a little closer to the hardware, that's what I'm gathering from this.

On PC, sure. They needed something to go up against Mantle. They're already doing it on console. They always have been, for decades now. That's kinda what consoles do.

 

[jbug617]

Phil Spencer says wait till GDC about Xbox One and Direct 12.

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/442737759308877824

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Phil Spencer says wait till GDC about Xbox One and Direct 12.

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/442737759308877824

This is basically what's in the OP, but it's good hearing it from Phil.

March 20th is the day to put on your calendar. 11 more days!

 

[meanspartan]

So are they going to keep their underpowered console in the graphics race by manipulating the software side of things? Gross, if so.

Not gonna work if ps4 has the larger install base and devs just focus on making games optimized for it.

 

[Quasar]

On PC, sure. They needed something to go up against Mantle. They're already doing it on console. They always have been, for decades now. That's kinda what consoles do.

Which is kind of why I expect 12 on PC just to be taking a bunch of stuff they already built for the XBone and bring it to PC (and guess Windows Phone). Not some thing that will magically improve XbOne graphs performance.

 

[Chettlar]

This is basically what's in the OP, but it's good hearing it from Phil.

March 20th is the day to put on your calendar. 11 more days!

I can't wait for the 20th. Expect exciting things, I would say.

Spoiler

No, I am not implying I'm an insider at all, despite me saying this a number of times. Just hopeful. [can't be to careful, eh]

And who, only 11 more days. Seems weird for some reason.

 

[dgrdsv]

Which is kind of why I expect 12 on PC just to be taking a bunch of stuff they already built for the XBone and bring it to PC (and guess Windows Phone). Not some thing that will magically improve XbOne graphs performance.

This is the most likely scenario.
Also - any performance improvements from software on XBO will also happen on PS4 and they probably will give PS4 more absolute increase in performance (due to how GPUs work). Anyone who's still thinking that the gap will be somehow less going forward should stop dreaming really. PS4 will always be a lot faster than XBO.

 

[d9b]

I hope this is not just another glorious plan/ empty promise/ PR spin to push few more sale figures. It's time to stop talking and start delivering for Microsoft.

 

[jbug617]

sorry for the bump but there is going to be a Turn 10 software architect on the panel at the Direct X 12 reveal.

Eric Demers | Vice President, Engineering, Qualcomm
Anuj Gosalia | Development Manager, Windows Graphics
Raja Koduri | Corporate Vice President of Visual Computing, AMD
Eric Mentzer | Vice President, Platform Engineering Group, Intel
Tony Tamasi | Senior Vice President of Content and Technology, NVIDIA
Chris Tector | Software Architect, Turn 10 Studios

http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828184

 

[Pakoe]

I am now convinced Halo 2 Anniversary or some new game MS has in store will be used to showcase DirectX 12.

Mark my words.

Don't do this to me.

 

[LordOcidax]

I have a question... Why a console need a PC API?.. Fixed hardware like the Xbox One or the PS4 or any other consoles, for what i understand can accept direct functions. In other words the PS4, doesnt neccesary needs the DX12. To obtain the same effects or techniques (Updated devkits). Or this is more PR BS?. Correct me if i am wrong. Sorry for my english.

 

[vxXJordanXxv]

I have a question... Why a console need a PC API?.. Fixed hardware like the Xbox One or the PS4 or any other consoles, for what i understand can accept direct functions. In other words the PS4, doesnt neccesary needs the DX12. To obtain the same effects or techniques (Updated devkits). Or this is more PR BS?. Correct me if i am wrong. Sorry for my english.

Makes it easier to port games from the Xbox One to PC. It's a win for PC gamers mostly. PS4 uses OpenGL wrappers for DirectX.

 

[dgrdsv]

I have a question... Why a console need a PC API?.. Fixed hardware like the Xbox One or the PS4 or any other consoles, for what i understand can accept direct functions. In other words the PS4, doesnt neccesary needs the DX12. To obtain the same effects or techniques (Updated devkits). Or this is more PR BS?. Correct me if i am wrong. Sorry for my english.

It doesn't. And it most likely won't.

Make it easier to port games from the Xbox One to PC. It's a win for PC gamers mostly. PS4 uses OpenGL wrappers for DirectX.

Could you name any Xbox One game that isn't on PC because of how hard the porting is?

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

..

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

I wonder if we'll have to pay to unlock it...

Kinda, have to pray to the cloud and really mean it

 

[USDF]

Yawn, Microsoft are becoming tiresome where has all that 360 kick ass goodness gone ?

 

[LordOcidax]

It doesn't. And it most likely won't.

Ok. Thanks

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Yawn, Microsoft are becoming tiresome where has all that 360 kick ass goodness gone ?

They left for other employment

 

[ekim]

sorry for the bump but there is going to be a Turn 10 software architect on the panel at the Direct X 12 reveal.




http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828184

Interesting. Will this stuff be streamed or at least live blogged?

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Interesting. Will this stuff be streamed or at least live blogged?

Don't think anything from GDC is being streamed AFAIK. They might add some stuff to their site after the fact in the vault to watch, but that's a long shot. Live blog on some site is your best bet...or just have twitter open, same thing .

 

[goonergaz]

I can see this being more over-promising from MS and then 'more secrets revealed at E3' to keep misterx + co 'on the hook'

 

[MCD]

sorry for the bump but there is going to be a Turn 10 software architect on the panel at the Direct X 12 reveal.




http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828184

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/p/directx12.aspx

Added here too.

 

[vxXJordanXxv]

It doesn't. And it most likely won't.


Could you name any Xbox One game that isn't on PC because of how hard the porting is?

*"Makes it easier" Sorry about that.

 

[ekim]

edit: oops - wrong day

 

[Green Yoshi]

So will it be more powerful than PS4 with DX12?

No, because the AMD APU probably won't support all DX12 features.

 

[TheLaw]

Looking forward to this

 

[pottuvoi]

edit: oops - wrong day

Has there been any announced stream of the presentation?

 

[ekim]

Has there been any announced stream of the presentation?

No stream so far but PCPer is live blogging it:
http://www.pcper.com/
(the box on the right)