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How dare you!

These two are a great exclusive for sure.
Still, great exclusives are much less (<8-9) as compared to the previous gens that most of us were used to (35+).
I don't know whether COVID is to blame for this trend.

I think I will wait 1-2 years to know if Sony PS is really worth sticking to. Otherwise, I will invest in a decent gaming rig and stick to PC gaming (and maybe Nintendo Switch2).

Currently, PS5 reminds me of the 3DO era about three decades ago. The 3DO was I believe the most powerful console of the time (93-94) with great-looking games at that time. But, there were so few good exclusives that it died in the end (1996). Interestingly, it was also priced at US$699.99 at launch.

 

[SlimySnake]

I traded in my ps4 for around $300 so the pro was only $100. even if i get $400 for my ps4, i would still have to pay $380 for it.

 

[Eszti]

Damn…internet was s mistake

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

another dumb take. The 350 you get from the ps5 doesn’t magically disappear you still spent 700 bucks. Incredible

Plus I'm assuming this means trade in your disc PS5 for a digital PS5 Pro.

 

[Topher]

Three jobs and a console trade in, gets you a PS5Pro.

You work in China?

 

[Unknown?]

another dumb take. The 350 you get from the ps5 doesn’t magically disappear you still spent 700 bucks. Incredible

People don't care, they buy to rent all the time and love the interest!

 

[kungfuian]

Gotta love when millionaires pretend to be human. Tone def let them eat cake moment for Mike.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Trade in's have always been instrumental to new consoles.

 

[DeepSpace5D]

I agree with him at least for some users. It’s pretty much where I’m at already having two standard PS5s in the house. I have one disc version and one digital, and I’m contemplating trading in the digital one and upgrading to a Pro. Getting ~ $400 at Gamestop doesn’t sound too bad.

But I’m still going to wait until real results in games are shown. If the improvements in performance are worth the extra $300 to me, then I’ll probably upgrade.

 

[Eszti]

Plus I'm assuming this means trade in your disc PS5 for a digital PS5 Pro.

If you have a slim you can use that disc drive.

 

[Eszti]

People don't care, they buy to rent all the time and love the interest!

If they would nor care they would not lie themselves.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

He’s spot on. MS should release their real next gen console in 2026.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

If you have a slim you can use that disc drive.

You think they're giving the same value for a disc PS5 vs. a no-disc slim? I honestly don't know, I haven't looked at the TIV.

 

[NickFire]

If the base trade value is still 410 when pro launches it becomes a no brainer for me. 290 plus tax is fine regardless after seeing the IGN comparisons this morning. Day 1.

Wait a minute. I forgot about that disc drive. But still, those graphics were noticeable.

 

[existensmaximum]

Yeah, let's pretend every country is USA why don't we. With the same prices and possibilities of trading in your consoles.

 

[Eszti]

You think they're giving the same value for a disc PS5 vs. a no-disc slim? I honestly, don't know, I haven't looked at the TIV.

Obviously not but i never said so.

 

[havoc00]

Depending on what happens in the next few months I just might trade in my series and ps5 for a Pro. Dunno

 

[cash_longfellow]

Wild that consoles used to cost $350-400. Now we're asked to cope with trade in deals lol.

Wild that gas used to cost $.98 a gallon…yada yada yada.

 

[TGO]

I find it funny they say the hardcore will trade-in their consoles to upgrade, and that's who it's aim at "the hardcore"
What fucking hardcore gamer sells their consoles?
Those are trophies for display bitch.
You're talking about some casual bitch ass motherfuckers trading in shit for their next fix!

 

[Topher]

You think they're giving the same value for a disc PS5 vs. a no-disc slim? I honestly, don't know, I haven't looked at the TIV.

Not the same value at GameStop currently, but not a huge difference.

 

[Self High Five]

You don’t have to though. Those are optional choices and by the looks of online retailers those that are interested have already prepared for that.

*looks at the dozens of physical ps4 games on the shelf*

 

[Draugoth]

you can always use Mercado Livre or Olx to sell it. You just need to dodge the thieves/scamers, and be willing to deal with proposals like "I'll trade you this gamer PC with a GTX980 plus inflatable pool".

A dude once offered me an infant python on my Steam Deck (i really wanted that python)

 

[nashman]

Ybarra tweets like he thinks HH or Phil will be fired tomorrow and he wants his job.

 

[adamsapple]

A dude once offered me an infant python on my Steam Deck (i really wanted that python)

So let's see the pictures of that infant python now.

And no this is not an euphemism for sending me dick pics over DM.

 

[Fess]

But no......for anyone who is unsure if they want to stay in the PS ecosystem.....the PS5 Pro is automatic "no" at this point.

I’ll stay in the PS ecosystem, on PC.
There is a Playstation publisher sale on Steam now, just bought two more of their PC ports

 

[Topher]

I’lll stay in the PS ecosystem, on PC.
There is a Playstation publisher sale on Steam now, just bought two more of their PC ports

I'll do that if/when they port to PC day one. Getting Platinum trophy for Ghost of Tsushima on PC (double dipped) was so cool

 

[Raven117]

i just… man… there really hasn’t been enough stuff this generation to push the limit of the base model. Unless I see some damn good reasons (and games) the beg to have higher performance….nah.

I’m happy with my ps5

 

[Fess]

I'll do that if/when they port to PC day one. Getting Platinum trophy for Ghost of Tsushima on PC (double dipped) was so cool

I use my old PS5 when I can’t wait, like with Astro Bot, but otherwise my PC acts as my PS5 Pro. Annoying to wait on games but I can’t justify paying €800 to play games early knowing I’ll want them on PC anyway when a higher end PC version with all DLC arrives.

Ghost is one of the Steam sale games I bought, played it maybe 20h on PS4. Should be a nice upgrade!

 

[Fbh]

If I could trade in my PS5 and get a Pro for $350 I'd do it. Seems like a reasonable price for the upgrade.

Sadly I live in one of the regions that gets completely fucked by Sony pricing and has high sales tax so at launch it's probably going to be more like "trade in your PS5 + $700"
And that's an easy skip

 

[Allandor]

How does this work with 800€? Also, it is only a digital edition. So I don't think that even in the us it will just be a $350 upgrade. You than still need to buy the disc drive.


I really don't get this. If you sell your device and by a PS5 pro, Sony Gaines a customer who bought the used PS5. If a company in between gives you "money" for it, they must find a new customer first before they gain some money. It would be much cheaper for Sony just to sell the pro console for a lower price before they start such deals.

 

[Iced Arcade]

This is why you lost your job mike

 

[OuterLimits]

To be fair, there is a point to be made here. For an existing PS5 owner, the marginal upgrade cost is 350. This is notable when comparing the costs to a PC upgrading its graphics card, which usually sees people swap a component out and potentially sell the old one. This is a conversation worth having especially in the context of the age-old "PCs cost extra to upgrade, unlike consoles" mudslinging.

True. However, that cost becomes higher than $350 if the person wants their new premium console to also have a disc drive and vertical stand. With those included you are getting far closer to once again spending the original cost of the base PS5.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Add in a $30 stand and an $80 disc drive too to match. If you put your system flat or are 100% digital then a moot point, but still youre losing value.

As for the trade in value difference, he is right. When yo buy a car or house, your cost isn't the full value. It's the difference between it and selling your current gear (unless you are buying for the first time with no resale product).

But pending the price of the new product, it can look bad and the higher it is. The pricier it is, the higher money you need as the gap gets bigger in pure dollars. And at $700, the gap gets bigger because the trade in values wont go up to compensate the same amount.

If you buy a car for $50,000, your old car might be worth $20,000. You need $30,000 difference. If cars are jacked up to $70,000, your trade in value is not likely to be $40,000 so you need the same $30,000.

 

[Fabieter]

So many people who try to justify the cost means that's it's indeed too high.

 

[Inviusx]

Of course I will be trading in my PS5 for the Pro. Why would I keep a base model I will never touch again? He might be wrong about the trade in value in 2024 but he's not wrong about the behaviour of most people wanting to trade and upgrade. That's common sense.

 

[adamsapple]

This is why you lost your job mike

 

[StreetsofBeige]

For any of you Yanks getting offered $350 US by GS for your PS5, consider yourselves lucky.

GS Canada is offering $350 CDN max for a PS5 from their online trade in value tracker. And PS5 Pro will be $960. So excluding any special promotions they might have, the difference is $600. And that doesn't even include anyone wanting a matching disc drive and stand.

 

[Shakka43]

So many people who try to justify the cost means that's it's indeed too high.

It really isn't to be honest. The price on everything has gone up these past few years and we expect consoles and games to stay the same price for some odd reason, hell food which is a more important matter has gone up two or three times higher than it used to be. Things are just that fucked.

 

[Codes 208]

Trading in consoles is the new get a second job

 

[SkylineRKR]

Ybarra is completely right. Many of us already have a PS5, you're not going to keep it for decoration next to your Pro. You are going to sell it towards the Pro. Unless you give it away or something, but then it saves someone else having to hand over. Most hardcore Playstation gamers aren't going to hand over 699.

In the PC space this is common; after a few years you upgrade your hardware. In the console space this choice is also possible nowadays. I think its not a bad outlook. I did upgrade to the PS4 Pro back then and was happy with it. The PS5 Pro i am not sure about, because I feel less urgency right now. But the option is there should I want it.

 

[Arsic]

Damn GameStop giving a nice chunk of change for the PS5 is wild.

I thought they’d give you like $179.

$350? That’s legit good.

Pro for $350 I will do if that deal exists when it actually launches.

 

[DenchDeckard]

So I trade in my ps5 with a disk drive and have to buy a disk drive and stand for this "premium" device.

Words can't describe how much I'm learning to hate the console business. Don't let me down nintendo.

 

[SkylineRKR]

People saying 350 used to be the price of a console. I know right? There used to be so many things I paid like half for just a few years ago. Go out and buy a PS5 amateur, it'll set you back 500 as well. If I had no PS5 yet, what to do? A 4 yr old system for 500 or the Pro for 700? For me the choice wouldn't be hard in this case.

The disc drive is the only caveat I have, since you are kind of forced to buy one if you have a Disc edition already.

 

[GHG]

Ybarra tweets like he thinks HH or Phil will be fired tomorrow and he wants his job.

They both should, for different reasons.

 

[Filben]

Can I keep my disc drive from the OG base PS5? No... So more like 570EUR for that trade-in calculation (920EUR minus maybe 350 for a used PS5 in my country)

These calculations as a general rule are rather meaningless since anyone can do that on their own and varies per region and personal preferences. Personally, a console without a disc drive is out of the question, since the PS5 is my Blu-ray player for movies and series and 80% of my library is on disc, making a disc drive practically mandatory.

 

[Fabieter]

It really isn't to be honest. The price on everything has gone up these past few years and we expect consoles and games to stay the same price for some odd reason, hell food which is a more important matter has gone up two or three times higher than it used to be. Things are just that fucked.

Because other companies are greedy too isnt an excuse for Sony to do the same. It would be fine if they would have the stand and the discdrive included tho in that price.

The disc drive for example is 50% more expensive in eu than in the us. Like wtf. Sell this shit for 799 with everything included.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Can I keep my disc drive from the OG base PS5? No... So more like 570EUR for that trade-in calculation (920EUR minus maybe 350 for a used PS5 in my country)

These calculations as a general rule are rather meaningless since anyone can do that on their own and varies per region and personal preferences. Personally, a console without a disc drive is out of the question, since the PS5 is my Blu-ray player for movies and series and 80% of my library is on disc, making a disc drive practically mandatory.

Yes you have to downgrade to digital only. This is the biggest problem. But in theory you can buy the disc drive now, and not in November. A disc version would likely fetch a higer trade in or resell value.

However, especially in Europe this all is going to cost you. US however, I think they got a decent deal. When 4 Pro launched it was 399, but the PS4 returns were only 150-200 ish. I still had to hand over 200+.

 

[RespawnX]

well known shop; quick search..

Complete with box:

• Base €357.00
• Slim €386.00
• Slim Digital €306.00

Slim ROUTE A

799,99 - 386.00 = €413.99*
*Sell all your physical games to reduce the price further

Slim ROUTE B

799,99 - 386.00 + 119.99 = €533.98

Slim Digital

799.99 - 306.00 = €493.99

Dream deal Mike dream deal!

+100 for disc drive

Thats a RTX 5070.

Base PS5 is fine for me, 3 years until PS6.

 

[dreamstation]

Sweet so it sounds like I'm going to get $680 AUD trade in for my launch PS5 according to this guy seeing as the Pro with disc drive is $1360 here in Australia.

 

[FeralEcho]

Oh I see, so you just give them the thing you already paid $499/£449 for and it ain't that bad because you only have to pay $350 for it

It's natural for CEOs or executives to exhibit retardation syndrome. It's from the abundance of lies they are hardwired to tell everyone.

In other words being a cunt is normal for them.