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Military personnel on Xbox One; Microsoft responds
- Thread starter RobbieH
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She's technically an NBC employee, but you're right; it's not a good look.
And it isn't going away any time soon.
shinobi602
Member
No one is saying to take away digital downloading...
I'll forgive them for their transgression if they reverse this nonsense. I want a Xbone and PS4.
Impeccable
Member
Incoming PS2 era and MS jumping out of the console space.
entremet
Member
It's funny cause they don't seem to care lol.
cleveridea
Member
As immune to caring as high level execs at Microsoft are, this has to be just awful for the troops working in their internal studios.
haha no...
I'm so confused by this again. But I wasn't even referring to this. I think I read a article quote a few days ago that said Microsoft was looking into making special Xbox One's specifically for military members that didn't require the check-in for games.
That was a "Polygon source" a while back when they were in full on damage control mode after their reveal. It might be true, but with those quotes from PR...
soulassssns
Banned
This sailor has already preordered a PS4 and has no plans to purchase an Xbox One.
No, it's not. It's been selling significantly higher than the other two consoles for years now and it definitely has much higher software sales.
I don't even own an Xbox 360 but it is the incumbent brand guys.
You're going to get blindsided by this holiday if you think the PS4 is on its way to immediate market leadership.
I'm with you. I primarily prefer the Playstation, but I've had great times with my 360 this generation. There have been some undeniably fantastic games, and having another generation of Xbox games sounds freaking great. But not like this.
Interfectum
Member
I don't think that's possible. It would be a matter of months before those systems got out to the public rendering half of their XBL shit useless.
I'm not sure, I read that as MS' rep completely forgetting about the daily check.
As long as I don't see "Xbone won't require an internet connection for the military" written in huge shiny letters on its website, I won't believe it. And then I'll criticize the fact that they won't do it too for non-military guys, until the day that they do.
Offline, small, lightweight, no large required accessories, no powerbrick.
Sony should just donate a ton to the military.
that's true
someone at MS said as much on reveal week, they just don't have the details of how it will work yet like much of their plans it's 5 mos away, plenty of time
Your point is 100% valid, but look at it this way:
If MS doesn't respect the Americsn military, then who do they respect?
Escape Goat
Member
They dont care. Let the free market decide.
You can already do that today if you just buy digital instead of retail.
With no 24 hour "can I please have permission to play my games" BS
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Not been a year late to the party.
Not been $300 more expensive.
Not pissed in peoples' faces and called it rain.
Military will be able to still play offline content, as well as multiplayer(when allowed) content on the PS4. Sony has stated this is a focus for offline players. That hasn't changed from last generation at all. Military not being able to download DLC,is the same problem they had last gen, or any time without the internet.
Its significantly worse to own a xbone and be in the military, thats not equal across the board. Its heavier, more parts as well.
Can you talk about what country you're referring to? My understanding is the PS3 has a sight lead worldwide, but not in the US. I don't know software sales.
fabricated backlash
Member
It's not so much the loss of buyers among the military personnel, but the Image problem this creates. The US has this huge cultural veneration for their (active) troops, so any policy that is perceived as harmful or disrespectful against them is also going to affect buying behaviour in the US.
mangochutney
Member
To help me put this in perspective - how many military personnel does the US have?
Like how many people are MS going to be pissing off here.
Edit: didn't spot the 1.4 million figure, quite a lot of people then.
Like how many people are MS going to be pissing off here.
Edit: didn't spot the 1.4 million figure, quite a lot of people then.
JCreasy
Member
How can they say this when the Xbox One bricks once it's disconnected from the internet for 24 hours.
BlazingDarkness
Member
The whole military angle is pretty much a media shit storm waiting to happen.
MS would do well to nip that in the bud pretty quickly - maybe offer hardware that doesn't require the check-in and whatnot for military bases?
MS would do well to nip that in the bud pretty quickly - maybe offer hardware that doesn't require the check-in and whatnot for military bases?
1.4M military
3M their friends & family
20M people without internet
xM people put off by draconian DRM
And all their friends...
it adds up.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
It could be 500 people. Actual servicemen saying "Company X doesn't care about the military" is a huge blow from a PR standpoint. And their weak response doesn't help matters.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Good points, but I do think the opporunity is there for them to come back from the brink. A price cut or value added along with a firm commitment to remove the 24hr check in would see the backlash soften, but it won't repair the significant damage that's already been done.
I'm not sure what they could do to repair that, perhaps give everyone a year of free gold along with a game of their choice? Would it work? People can be very forgiving when they are given free shit...
Offline, small, lightweight, no large required accessories, no powerbrick.
Sony should just donate a ton to the military.
Sheeeit make a special digital cammo version and watch that shit fly off the shelves.
SolarPowered
Member
Sony should donate some launch units to the military. It'd be great PR.
Oh, and fuck MS if they make exceptions for anyone else and screw normal people. They can go to hell even harder.
Oh, and fuck MS if they make exceptions for anyone else and screw normal people. They can go to hell even harder.
You need to ask...?
I think you underestimate America's "support the troops" attitude. If word spreads that Microsoft is basically telling the military "sucks to be you", I can see a lot of civilians unwilling to support an anti-military company.
I'm not even in the military anymore, so technically a civilian, and I'm not getting one for this very reason.
This is going better than expected
Why are they doing those things? Please somebody explain.
Yes, I referred to the US market several times, which is the market that determines significant Western developer support.
More specifically, it determines the developer support that drives Microsoft's business.
SwiftDeath
Member
You know Microsoft might be the best company at tanking the press relations for their own product ever
I mean maybe the X1 isn't evil incarnate but damn if they don't just keep making bad press
How can it can even worse press at this point?
JetBlackPanda
Member
This is a PR nightmare and will piss off a lot more then just active service members who want to play COD at sea.
It's a perception issue. The continued negativity can cost them far more sales than that.
Duane Cunningham
Member
She may not have literal balls, but she has figurative ones, lol.
Except, as a few pointed out, I guess MSNBC is now Microsoft-free as of just about a year ago (after looking it up). They should change the channel's name to NBC News, but evidently they already have with their website, apps etc. So I bet it's only a matter of time before they do.
what vid is that from?
Offline, small, lightweight, no large required accessories, no powerbrick.
Sony should just donate a ton to the military.
The region locks and the 24hr authentication requirement are not the only issues for service men and women.
As others have mentioned, the the requirement to always have the kinnect camera/mic system on would most likely not be allowed on military facilites, ships, or subs where there is a risk of sensitive data spillage.
As others have mentioned, the the requirement to always have the kinnect camera/mic system on would most likely not be allowed on military facilites, ships, or subs where there is a risk of sensitive data spillage.
You woke up my Watch dog fan side~
Adam, are you reading this? You should read this.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Saw this coming a mile away. It's pretty shocking how much gaming goes on in the military and (especially) the Navy. Sony should literally just send free PS4s to various US and EU bases.
I'm a PCmaster race gamer so I won't be buying either of the two next gen systems this gen, and normally don't pay much attention to consoles...but I must say I'm shocked at how MS has handled this. This rollout is already being discussed in business schools, and I'm sure many papers will be written about it in the coming years (assuming MS doesn't retreat). They have basically created an America Box, and even that name isn't completely accurate considering there are tons of areas throughout the US with limited internet (especially during the winter).
I'm a PC
Interfectum
Member
fart town usa
Member
You're kidding right?
XBL may set the standard for what speed and connectivity within the console market should be but to think the 360 is, "driving the industry" is laughable.