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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate |OT| If at first you don't succeed, try Tri again!
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WheelHoss1
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Never played Monster Hunter before. Picking it up tomorrow. Is the combat at all similar to the Demon's Souls series? It seems like it might compare in that Demon's Souls and Dark Souls is all about learning when you are open to being attacked and how to avoid taking damage (at least for my play style it was). i loved those games and am hoping that MH has some of those elements in its combat (vs. spaz style combat of games like Skyrim).
Wolf Akela
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Combat as in the way you described it? Yes. It's much deeper than the Souls games since there are a lot more factors you have to consider, like hitzones, sharpness, and so on. Every weapon type has their own weight and feel, and all moves are available from the start.
If you like the Souls games for the adventure aspect you'll be very disappointed though.
WheelHoss1
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In what sense will I be disappointed? I liked Dark Souls for both the combat and the exploring...
There's really not much exploring in MH...
WheelHoss1
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So it's all just get quest and go kill monster, do stuff in town, repeat. That seems ok if the combat is as sick as it sounds...
Wolf Akela
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There really isn't much to the series when it comes to exploring. You won't find a rare piece of item or equipment when you try to look for secret areas. You can just think of MH as a boss rush game that plops you into an arena composed of ~8-12 zones.
Gamer @ Heart
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A little bit. It is more about hit and run tactics than the souls games. You need to learn patterns, line of attacks, how to dodge, things like that. Souls games are more offensive.
Both I'd say. There's worse games for exploring than Monster Hunter, but once you go over each area there's really not much else to see in that regard, and the combat... you know, it's tired but I actually think I'd like a bit of the Dark Souls combat feel taken into Monster Hunter, in some ways it DOES feel like a more refined version, albeit with less moves and lock on, if you combined the best of Dark Souls as applicable to Monster Hunter (IE no lock on) you might really push it forward.
Then again Dark Souls is all about more human-esque foes rather than facing animals, namely giant ones, so it may not really do much for Monster Hunter.
So like a lot of folks this will be my first real foray into MH. After trying most of the demo weapons I think I am currently between Hammer and Greatsword. Both seem fun and satisfying to hit with. The running charge on the hammer did lend a nice cadence to the fighting. But the sword looks cooler. And is a sword. Hmm.
Wolf Akela
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Oh yeah, have you fought Sanctuary Guardian in Dark Souls? MH bosses are pretty much like that.
I live outside out of the continental US so my info won't help you! D:
tomegatherion77
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Are we going to be setting anything up for player info like we did with Tri?
If we did already, I didnt see it. Thanks.
If we did already, I didnt see it. Thanks.
Target...B2G1...get on itThe hype for this is crazy.
I'm going to have to give the demo another go. I can't afford this, LCU, AND Luigi's Mansion. Something has to be let go.
Sanic
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That ends the day before Luigi doesn't it?
Oh yeah it does, but if you're feeling adventurous you can probably pick a full priced free game and exchange it for LM, that is my plan for this week
Sanic
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MagicWithEarvin
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West coast time here... that means 4 more hours for me.
This is the worst thing.
samus4ever
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Got my 3ds copy preorder and can't wait to pick it up.
I am in the same boat.
Wolf Akela
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It does. AFAIK even the demos for KH3D and RE:R don't support CPP but the full games do.
Yes, the demo is just a translation of a really old one that was released in Japan before the CPP was available.
Alcotholic
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It should go up tomorrow.
Well, guess what came in the mail!
Whoever I streetpassed today that said "preorder mh3u": gotcha covered buddy.
Can we talk skills? I was looking over the armours and it seems like all the low ranks have are Attack Up. Since I can't get Crit Draw, what else is good for GS? What about HH or DS?
Whoever I streetpassed today that said "preorder mh3u": gotcha covered buddy.
Can we talk skills? I was looking over the armours and it seems like all the low ranks have are Attack Up. Since I can't get Crit Draw, what else is good for GS? What about HH or DS?
Hrrm, been playing the demo some more and thought about what weapon to use in retail version and I'm still not entirely sure. Back in Tri I would use the SA and for most of 3rd I'd use the LS (with some Lance mixed in) but I'm this time considering going S&S. Unlike Tri I'll be playing solo on my 3DS and I'm curious if a S&S user would work well solo? The status ailments seem interesting and would offer something new to this playthrough since I've honestly rarely dabbled in that previously but I'm not sure if it's more of a multiplayer support thing that would be wasted playing alone?
Any input would be appreciated
Also while on the topic of stuff I've never quite gotten around to, barrelbombs, how are you actually supposed to use them? Only against trapped targets or do some of you use them against moving targets? Seems like they only trigger when attacked so should I bring throwing knives and such to trigger them without taking damage?
Spent hundred of hours playing Monster Hunter and yet stuff like this I still feel completely noob about
Any input would be appreciated
Also while on the topic of stuff I've never quite gotten around to, barrelbombs, how are you actually supposed to use them? Only against trapped targets or do some of you use them against moving targets? Seems like they only trigger when attacked so should I bring throwing knives and such to trigger them without taking damage?
Spent hundred of hours playing Monster Hunter and yet stuff like this I still feel completely noob about
soxinthebox
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Tried out the RE:R demo last night and it definitely can use the CPP
Any weapon should be viable for solo. SnS is more based on element or status damage, so keep a lot of them with different elements.
Remember, if the armour is weak to an element, the monster probably is too.
For barrel bombs, the absolute best way is to put the monster to sleep first. Then you lay the large bombs and set them off with the small one. A sleeping monster takes triple damage.
Bounce bombs shoot upward (+ shoots a little bit forward) so you should use them under a big monster.
Thanks for the reply. Could you use a S&S with sleep status effect instead of sleep bombs? I wouldn't mind carrying around sleep bombs since what you described sounded really useful but I guess I'm curious just how effective the status debilitating effects on weapons are (say I have the Gigginox armor set with improved status effect activated) or if I should stick to something like poison and elemental stuff just for the damage.
I think I remember reading that people have seen MH3U on shelves by aren't selling them today, so you should be good for tomorrow.
I'm really excited for this game on both Wii U and 3DS.
Those of you on the fence about buying a Wii U or not I would strongly suggest doing so. Online play with others is pretty essential to these games.
If you know enough people to local co-op on the 3DS more power to you, but online with the Wii U is going to be sick!
Those of you on the fence about buying a Wii U or not I would strongly suggest doing so. Online play with others is pretty essential to these games.
If you know enough people to local co-op on the 3DS more power to you, but online with the Wii U is going to be sick!
sweet. too bad I can't think of a 3rd game that I want.
I think you're confused. To my knowledge, there are no sleep bombs. The way you get a monster to sleep is by attacking with a weapon with a sleep element, laying drugged meat, or by using sleep shots with a ranged weapon. After the monster falls alseep, the next attack does triple damage (so laying a bunch of large bomb+ will do very well).
EDIT: But yeah, a sleep SnS will probably get a you a few sleeps, depending on your proficiency and the monster. Remember, the amount it takes to make them sleep (or any other status effect, like paralyze or poison), goes up each time you inflict it. So for most monsters you won't get more than 3 sleeps, I believe...If that, if you're on your own. Someone who used a sleep SnS more than I can probably be a bit more specific though =)
I don't remember there being sleep bombs... I assumed you'd be using a sleep SnS. I suppose you could also craft sleep knives, but I don't think it's worth the time.
Unrelated comment: Duramboros armour looks like something out of Tekkaman Blade. I want it.
I think Bento meant tranq bombs for trapping a monster, and like you explained, sleep is a different status effect from tranq.
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