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My Hero Academia S2 |OT| This is Going to Stain my Hero Record. No Manga Spoilers!!!
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But the japanese voices get ridiculous sometimes. Deku sounds way so young that when he needs to make Deku sngry it sound like other character. Dub Deku nailed the tone imo.
Because his voice fits his character more. Watched some of the dub and I like the sub voices better.
You watched the video? It isn't about the voice, it is about how Dub deku is less depressive and more confident without being delusional while sub Deku seems almost suicidal. Many people bash deku for being whiney and a crybaby but it is only true about the sub version imo.
Just to be clear sub!=japanese. I don't know if the subs is different from the original
About the voice I just disagree. Justin Brinnerdoes a great job capturing the character while the japanese voice actor uses almost the same voice he uses for other shows like the photographer kid from Shokugeki.
PhantomKnight
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According to @Yonkouproduction on Twitter, season 3 is confirmed.
Took too long, I'm reading the manga now ;D
But that's Deku. I don't need the dub to change his character because he's actually like that. You might like that the dub makes him more confident but that's not much of a positive for me
I think the dub is closer to the character from the manga.
It is the same thing about All Might but reversed. Sabat does a good job but the Japanese All Might incorporates perfectly what I see when I read the manga.
Afaik the sub is basically taking what's being said in the manga and just using that so i'm not sure how the dub would be closer if it's changing things slightly from the sub
He's not talking about the direct lines, but the voice acting.
I haven't listened to the dub, so I have no opinion on this.
Yeah in terms of what's being said, the script seems the exact same, I just listened to the first 5 min of the first episode again and you can literally use the Japanese version of the manga as subtitles.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Sub voices are unquestionably worse, IMO. Even without getting into the characterization tweaks (improvements).
"They just sound right" is more about which you listened to first or if you're going in expecting Japanese or English, imo.
"They just sound right" is more about which you listened to first or if you're going in expecting Japanese or English, imo.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Wow I as hoping for a surprise finale episode teaser.
This is really strange to me, because I feel like JP All Might is by far the best voice actor in MHA. Shigaraki, All for One and Ochaco are my other favorites, but I feel like AM is in a league of his own with the range he's shown so far. His dialogue with Deku about All for One especially elevated him for me.
Literal translation is almost always worse than adaptation. I doubt the original intended to have Deku seem suicidal for example.
Honestly, today is the first time I hear about Deku being suicidal and I've been following manga since chapter 1 and lots of discussions on the series for almost every each chapter and each anime episode. I feel like someone "forced" Deku being suicidal thing recently and people bandwagoned on it. I feel like someone's looking into it too much. I've rewatched each episode 5-8+ times depending on the episode thanks to live reactions (got too addicted to them) and never got such an impression.
Yeah, I've literally never heard of that before today.
I didn't think so before watching the video but I had to agree afterwards. Even so almost everyone that bashes Deku calls him a crybaby and whiny.
PixelatedBookake
Junior Member
I spent all of season 2 watching the dub on Funimation and only recently started watching the sub for about three episodes. I did watched season 1 all subbed but I honestly prefer the English dub over the sub. The Japanese sub the original, but I'll be damned if I don't enjoy these characters better in a language I understand.
But if it's a literal translation Deku's character is by definition more in line with the sub and not the dub. If you like the dub better it's cool but you're making weird justifications for it imo
Literal!= more in line. Literal translation doesn't mean the most correct. And my justifications aren't weird, I explained my point several times here why I think dub Deku is better. In fact I have yet to hear a good argument why sub Deku is better.
SonicX_Zero
Member
Shit I never saw Deku's character as suicidal especially in ep.1.... I have been watching MHA the wrong way this whole time!!! Fuck. 
Oooh, get em guys
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I like all the incarnations of Mineta.
None of the reasons you're giving for the dub being better aren't good to me either. I 100% disagree that dub is closer to the manga than the sub, and the change to Deku isn't good. Saying Deku seems suicidal is also just wtf entirely, no idea what that's about.
Linkstrikesback
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That's not how translation works. "Literal translation" as in word for word (but made in to sentences in the new language) is bad translation. Things simply do not carry over between languages directly. A good translation will make changes to the literal translation so that the original intent carries over in the new language, not the words.
This stuff about Deku being suicidal though, nah, that's not right.
Trojita
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I watched this the day you posted the video. The video is trash. 3.5 minutes he hasn't gotten through a single thing of any depth. 4.5 minutes in and the guy prefers the dub because they change the original source dialogue and make Deku a less complex person. What
Also the fuck at people looking at Deku as suicidal. Are they projecting?
The subs are the same as the dialog in the manga. It's not a literal translation in they way you're thinking.
Yeah, Im gonna have to reread the early volume(s) because Im not sure where this notion even came from.
Yeah I don't see how he would be suicidal. He was bullied and cried a lot but that doesn't mean suicidal.
Trojita
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Whether people like it or not, Deku wanting to be a hero but being delusional about his prospects is depth of character. The way that youtuber puts it, he wants Deku to literally act like a generic as you can get Shounen Protagonist.
I'm wondering if some people took too much stock in the scene where Bakugou basically tells Deku to kill himself. Deku kind of has a fearful retort along the lines of "If I did, you'd get in trouble". He was trying to talk back to a bully with the only ammo he could use.
I'm wondering if some people took too much stock in the scene where Bakugou basically tells Deku to kill himself. Deku kind of has a fearful retort along the lines of "If I did, you'd get in trouble". He was trying to talk back to a bully with the only ammo he could use.
How he didn't go though a single thing of any depth? And how is sub deku a complex character?
And you guys are blowing up too much the bit about Deku being suicidal, I didn't get this impression but I can understand why he did.
How many people here watched both versions anyway? Because I watch both and the video is saying nothing that is trash.
I disagree, he being delusional is way more generic. Delusional protagonist are way too common.
Still, the way the dub Deku said the line was much better.
Yeah, Deku was delusional, not suicidal.
Him repeatedly nearly getting himself killed on accident is not the same thing.
That's a lot of ground to cover in one season.
Actually it isn't it is about the same amount covered this season, iirc it is even a bit less.
But wouldn't we be almost completely caught up to the manga by that point?
Especially since the part between #2 and #3 is essentially its own arc.
it would be right before the current arc which also happens to be the longest one so far (I think) But it seems to be almost done and there is at least half a year till the anime will return so the manga will get even further.
Trojita
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"Deku struggles with being a quirkless fanboy in a land of super gods, put simply for 'E-Deku' becoming a hero is an aspiration, for 'J-Deku' it's a fantasy. While both would be heroes show a sense of dedication, the language used by 'E-Deku' is far more definite and future oriented than that used by 'J-Deku'. It makes it clear that 'E-Deku' has a goal in mind, a solid motivation behind that goal, and a general idea of how he's going to go about how to achieve it (how?). 'J-Deku' on the other hand uses his dream of becoming a quirkless hero mostly as an outlet to vent his frustrations about being bullied in school and permanently denied the one thing he's wanted for his entire life. He would never admit to himself that becoming a hero is a pipe dream, but he does understand the world that it is would simply not allow him to pursue that dream to any serious degree".
One of these is the real Deku, and it isn't the one that starts with an "E". E-Deku characterization is as shounen generic as you can get. They literally changed everything about the origin of the property and character. What was this general idea of how he's going to go about achieving his goal?
Deku was a kid with a broken dream that continued on with his fantasy.
Sorry
"Real" deku depends of how you see it. In my mind the E-Deku is the real one. And I still don't get it how E-Deku is generic and J-deku isn't.
It is ok to not like dubs, but cmon let's not say that the opinions of who like are trash ok. The dub changed Deku and the result is much better character imo. J-deku isn't strong enough to carry the show as a protagonist.
Trojita
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I never said fans of the dub are trash, I said that video was. Took way too long to get to their point while throwing in frivolous images all over the place. I'm not a huge fan of the dub of what I've seen. Dub Deku's voice is fine with me, it is some of the others that seem off.