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My name is Alan Wake. I'm a writer. |OT|
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LordPhoque
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MMaRsu said:The Manuscript pages I found of The Sudden Stop, the voice actor is Max Payne right?? It's like a red herring right? Or whatever
They are Max Payne easter eggs I guess.
Alex Casey seems to be some kind of Max Payne himself.
Alex Casey seems to be some kind of Max Payne himself.
HixxSAFC said:
Im loving the woods, i dont see it as trudging along, i view it as trying to survive through lush environments with lots of unknowns. Im always on the edge of my seat, hoping,praying for light sources. I keep running out of ammo, and end up relying on dodge. I said this before but im a wreck when i reach save points.
Im playing it on Hard on my first playthrough, in the dark, with 5.1 turned up. Half way through ep 2 and its turning out to be the best game i've played this year. I haven't felt this good about a game since Arkham and RE4. Great stuff.
mescalineeyes said:
I appreciate what you're saying..... I suppose (as ever) our perceptions of the game come down to individual expectations, needs and taste.
Like yourself I have no problem with AW's Sub HD and the character faces. The thing is I also find the HUD and driving to be perfectly acceptable (though I have noticed the jerky car animations in the cut scenes too).
For me the atmosphere, story and character in this game are king. I love the feeling of isolation and anxiety at night - the sights and sounds of the forest and the stunning engine that drives it all. Not to mention the contrast of Bright Falls during the day and all its odd ball residents.
Remedy have just blown me away.
However from the reviews alone we knew this game would split opinions. Even the players who love AW are split into those who think it's fine as is and those who think it needs more polish.
But enough waffling from me
I'm knackered and it's time for bed...
with a torch by my side and every light source in the house switched to on ;-)
Keyser Soze
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Found a cool easter egg at the start of episode 4, not hidden but a nice extra
http://i42.tinypic.com/e0pt07.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/e0pt07.jpg
snoopeasystreet
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Played through chapter 2. It's pretty outstanding so far. I love the way the game telegraphs the future through the manuscripts. Every time I read about something that hasn't happened yet, I start getting paranoid.
I bought the special edition (which is super cool) and I'm wondering if there's any reason I should put in the bonus disk before finishing the game?
I bought the special edition (which is super cool) and I'm wondering if there's any reason I should put in the bonus disk before finishing the game?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Reckoner said:
Not to shit up the thread but I personally find it very obvious. I don't care massively either though. Metro 2033 is probably the best looking 360 game imho.
With all the lighting and particle effects, I'm not sure how people are actually noticing either. Sucks for them.Reckoner said:
Lots of folks have been comparing this game to Uncharted for all kinds of reasons (gameplay, level design, story, etc). I think its graphical prowess on the platform is yet one more point of comparison. Definitely wins my vote for best looking 360 game.
JimmyRustler
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No. Wait until you finished the game. There are a lot of spoilers on the bonus disc.snoopeasystreet said:
Just finished it. The ending kind of annoyed me actually. It isn't even a cliffhanger really, it's just more like 'a bunch of random stuff and a cryptic last line happens and we'll explain it in DLC/Alan Wake 2.' One of the devs on the forum is saying that they'd still be happy with the ending if the DLC or sequel never came out but I think that's rubbish to be honest, it doesn't hang well together as a conclusion at all. It's left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth actually.
But to be honest the story after about Episode 4 was simultaneously silly and unremarkable. I went into the game expecting something quite mature and well-plotted and came out thinking maybe I should finally try Silent Hill Shattered Memories since I've heard that has a great story. Shame, I really expected something better than what we got, plot-wise anyway.
But to be honest the story after about Episode 4 was simultaneously silly and unremarkable. I went into the game expecting something quite mature and well-plotted and came out thinking maybe I should finally try Silent Hill Shattered Memories since I've heard that has a great story. Shame, I really expected something better than what we got, plot-wise anyway.
the ending makes sense on its own. if you read the manuscripts and play through it a second time, you notice a lot of stuff that helps putting things together. i really dont want dlc that explains the ending more, the ending is perfect.Majora said:
and the story was not mature and well plotted? really?
snoopeasystreet
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Ugh. After playing the game for about an hour, I realised that I left my ipod in the car and I want to listen to something. It's 1 am here and I live in pretty much the Irish equivalent to Bright Falls. It's gonna be fairly tense walking down my driveway with flashlight in hand.
Yup. I didn't feel like it was a "cliffhanger" at all. Maybe a bit ambiguous and dense (and undeniably silly), but definitely not a cliffhanger.S1kkZ said:
I really wish they had tightened up the late-game plot points a bit and cut out some of the extraneous twists because up until that final episode, the game is tackling some seriously ambitious storytelling (and does so with subtlety and skill). But in that last hour or so, it devolves into much more typical and unremarkable video game storytelling. A bit of a mess in the end IMO.
Dabanton said:
I just beat ep 2, averaging 2-3 hours per episode, and im missing out stuff because im too bloody scared to investigate.
Rickety old cabins are a mind trip for me, especially when the rear speakers emphasizes someone elses breathing in certain areas. You feel like your always being watched, God damn im trying to hold it together.
Im calling it a night now, the Amir Khan boxing match is on soon. Got to get some coffee in for that.
Omotesando
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This game is not scary at all. The taken are kinda cheesy. Alan Wake needs to shut the fuck up, his comments really get on my nerves.
Great atmosphere though, one of the most authentic looking videogames ever created. The gameplay thus far is solid.
Mixed feelings so far going into chapter 3, this game has some serious tonal problems to overcome.
Great atmosphere though, one of the most authentic looking videogames ever created. The gameplay thus far is solid.
Mixed feelings so far going into chapter 3, this game has some serious tonal problems to overcome.
LordPhoque
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I liked Alan's comments too. I think he was a great character, not as tortured as Max Payne but still very likeable. He's not going too far in the "oh crap" stuff like Nathan Drake, I appreciate that.
Yeah, I will need to play it again so I can understand it fully. I am thinking all the time about this game. That never happened in a videogame before for me.
Damn, I just looked at the statistic and I am missing 40 maunuscript pages and one (!) TV show. :lol
Damn, I just looked at the statistic and I am missing 40 maunuscript pages and one (!) TV show. :lol
It really is. It is just in the sweetspot for me, perfect.S1kkZ said:
I don´t know. When I read things like this then you are not fully into it and "just playing a game". I think it really depends on your gaming preferences. This is story driven and you are getting a lot of story and narrative thrown at you. If you do not like it, it may be a sign of overtaxing?Omotesando said:
fedit: sorry for double post, wanted to edit it in.
Mee too.derFeef said:
Can't take the game outside my mind. For example, I was in a conversation with a friend of mine via Skype, some minutes ago, about what we've seen about the story so far. It took something like three hours and we haven't talk about everything because he had to go.:lol
Alan Wake's story is a mind fuck.
Just my opinion.watership said:
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whatevermort said:
:lol :lol :lol
Big Papa Husker
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Does it look like this LE will actually be limited like the ME2 one, or will it be like Halo 3 and be on clearance for 75% off a year or two from now?
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Big Papa Husker said:
Hard to tell. New IP LE's usually end up pretty rare
Pretty sure Bioshock/ME1 LE's are rare.
L0st Id3ntity
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I've been avoiding this thread for spoilers, and then I came across the scattered pages in the game... What the fuck? :lol
What is the general consciousness about these pages? What is the purpose of ruining events before they actually happen?
I'll keep on collecting them, but I'm not reading any of that.
What is the general consciousness about these pages? What is the purpose of ruining events before they actually happen?
I'll keep on collecting them, but I'm not reading any of that.
Just started Chapter 5 and I have to say I'm definitely disappointed in the game. I set my standards too high, so it's really my own fault. Graphics are very good (although expressions are absolutely terrible and damn near laughable), atmosphere is the best asset, music is great, gameplay is pretty good. My major gripe is with the story. That's really all I cared about for this game, and I'm extremely disappointed. So far, it's been a convoluted mess and not interesting in the least. At this point, I'm playing it just to see where the hell they're gonna take this.
disappeared
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TWO MORE DAYS FFUUUU
Backfoggen
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Yeah, I don't read them either. It's like the game spoils itself. :lolL0st Id3ntity said:
silenthill1979
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This game will have a significant impact in the genre of horror games, just like Silent Hill.
Remedy saved a whole genre from being redundant.
Thank you guys
Remedy saved a whole genre from being redundant.
Thank you guys
Yup. Me and a friend of mine both have the game he is into these type of games BIG TIME. Also horror movies.silenthill1979 said:
He was like well Resident Evil 6 team has their work cut out now. Because this is the new way to make these type of games. He really dislikes RES5 because it's not horror/survival anymore.
And he played them all.
whatevermort
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FTWer said:
Why was that funny? It is the better game. I'm about to finish Chapter 5 of Alan, and there isn't a single element (bar those gained by being on the 360 (frame-rate, graphics)) that is better than Shattered Memories, and the game itself is pretty damn similar - walk around, explore with torch in dark places, panic when shadowy things attack. And the stuff that Shattered Memories does with narrative is far, far more interesting than anything Alan Wake does in the exposition-heavy cutscenes.
L0st Id3ntity said:
In Chapter 1 they do tend to ruin things in a bit. But after that I would really recommend reading them through, they flesh out a lot of characters backstories, show events from other characters perspectives, tell you about events that occur in different parts of the world which you never otherwise see etc...a load of information you would never otherwise get. Personally after Chapter 1 I thought the foretelling of events was done quite well but I can understand why people wouldn't want anything spoiled.
whatevermort
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L0st Id3ntity said:
Spoiling? That's the point! They've been put in by the developers at specific points to tease and draw you along, and you're meant to read them! They're not ruining events; it's the way that they wanted to structure the narrative, in this way that you have constant peeks into what's going to happen but you don't know when they're going to hit, or the context. (The
Tor & Odin ones
If you're not reading them then you're not playing it as the devs intended. Not saying that's right or wrong, but they're very definitely targeted at giving you info at certain points.
S1kkZ said:
Do you mind explaining how you interpreted the story then? Putting it in spoiler tags obviously. Because I don't think it is easy to understand. I looked at the official forums ending discussion thread and everyone has a different theory so I think that in itself shows it was convoluted and not well-explained. In particular what I don't understand is:
- What was the Mr Scratch stuff all about? Is it somehow related to the Night Springs Episode about alternate realities?
- Are we to assume Alan sacrificed himself to maintain balance and save Alice? How does Mr Scratch 'taking his place' tie into this?
- The ocean line, to me, could be interpreted in about 100 different ways, what do you think it means?
- Who is actually writing the story? Alan or Tom? How did Tom write the line about the clicker and Alan's childhood unless Tom is the ultimate writer and creator of what happens? In which case, is any of the gameworld real at all? Is it all a story being told by Tom? I found this very confusing. I didn't understand how, in the end, Alan could write the cabin back into existence. What did he write it in with, he didn't have a typewriter.
- What exactly is the darkness? Or are we just to accept it's an evil force and not worry about what it is or where it came from? Do we accept that the darkness just made the cabin and island on the lake appear in order to take Alice and lure Alan into writing a story. Which is fine if so, I just naturally seek solutions to everything :lol
- Are we to assume Alan sacrificed himself to maintain balance and save Alice? How does Mr Scratch 'taking his place' tie into this?
- The ocean line, to me, could be interpreted in about 100 different ways, what do you think it means?
- Who is actually writing the story? Alan or Tom? How did Tom write the line about the clicker and Alan's childhood unless Tom is the ultimate writer and creator of what happens? In which case, is any of the gameworld real at all? Is it all a story being told by Tom? I found this very confusing. I didn't understand how, in the end, Alan could write the cabin back into existence. What did he write it in with, he didn't have a typewriter.
- What exactly is the darkness? Or are we just to accept it's an evil force and not worry about what it is or where it came from? Do we accept that the darkness just made the cabin and island on the lake appear in order to take Alice and lure Alan into writing a story. Which is fine if so, I just naturally seek solutions to everything :lol
Honestly if someone wants to show me the story is actually explained and makes sense that's great. I'm planning to play through on Nightmare anyway and hoping things come together but my initial reaction was one of disappointment.
JimmyRustler
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I agree with Majora. The story is a total mess and way to many things do not really makes sense. The more I think about it the more holes I find in the plot. And it's not even concerning the ending but the things that happen throughout the game. For instance:
I mean, I'm ok with it that some things are not explained but this is just way to much if you ask me.
And btw.: Does someone know how the book from the LE fits into the whole story? Is it supposed to be an offical part of it or not? If yes I don't understand why some of Nightingale's notes in the story and some don't.
- How does Mott know Alice has disappeared in the first place?
Where does he have his phone number from?
- Why is Nightingale after Wake?
- Why does the lake make art come true?
Where does he have his phone number from?
- Why is Nightingale after Wake?
- Why does the lake make art come true?
I mean, I'm ok with it that some things are not explained but this is just way to much if you ask me.
And btw.: Does someone know how the book from the LE fits into the whole story? Is it supposed to be an offical part of it or not? If yes I don't understand why some of Nightingale's notes in the story and some don't.
The problem with the story is that at the end (I guess this'll be clear in the DLC, especially the second episode) it's not really clear whether
. Also, the book fits for the most part by filling a bit of what happens to other characters in the first few chapters, it also implies
.
Alan is just a writer (Tom?) who is writing the events of the game because Alice left him for being such a mess or if he really is there in the island and writes himself into the story, disappearing at the end
that everything happened and Alan has been missing since... which shouldn't be possible if he seemingly reset time at the end, but then again the ending shows the Deer Fest which is chapter 5 and the book only goes as far as early chapter 4