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NBA 2k10 official thread of git your ass back on the ship!
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Shawnwhann
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Oh lord the online experience is going to be shit again. No ranked lobbies and I'm enduring this fucker stalling using TOs and pauses while he's down by 25 points....
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EDIT- Plug pulled :lol
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EDIT- Plug pulled :lol
Herpes Reasons
Banned
Shawnwhann said:
If you are talking about Live it is the exact same as last year. Producers said they focused on Dynamic Season and Live Run this year. Only change was "tweaked player progression." That's pathetic IMO. For offline franchise players, 2K is the only way to look. The gap between the two is massive.chaoticprout said:
KolosLazar16
Member
Shawnwhann said:
you got live 10 right?
Knux-Future
Banned
thmst30 said:
but then what did 2k add to franchise???...
I was wondering why neither are saying much about that this year.
Knux-Future said:
- In-Game Saves
- D-League
- Restriced Free Agency
- Player Progressions based on Minutes/Production as opposed to just Potential rating + development drills
- NBA Today Commentary
- 10 Day Contracts
I'm sure I'm missing some, but that's the gist of the additions.
EDIT: Forgot the most important addition, the ability to create and import your own Draft Classes.
CartridgeBlower
Member
How does the jump from 2k9 to 2k10 compare to previous year's jumps? What would you liken it to?
jordan0386
Member
Live does have 'actual' players to choose from. So that bullet point might be moot.
anachronous_one
Prologue Type S Alpha
Shawnwhann, over on Operation Sports, Momentous and Pared were saying that slowdown was relieved a bit by turning off the "zoom in the key" camera. Have you tried that?
Also:
1) Is 2K cam playable (without lag) online (or offline, for that matter)?
2) Any glitches regarding inbounding the ball? I noticed the demo for 2K10 that if the ref tosses the ball to a player on an inbounds play, and the ball touches the court more than once, the player inbounding the ball will returnthe ball to the ref. This resulted in one instance where the ref and Odom passed the ball back and forth seven times before they were close enough to each other that the bounce pass to Odom only hit the floor once before reaching him. Play resumed as usual from there. Seen anything like that?
3) Are leaners and drifting shots easier to execute than in the demo?
Thanks in advance.
Also:
1) Is 2K cam playable (without lag) online (or offline, for that matter)?
2) Any glitches regarding inbounding the ball? I noticed the demo for 2K10 that if the ref tosses the ball to a player on an inbounds play, and the ball touches the court more than once, the player inbounding the ball will returnthe ball to the ref. This resulted in one instance where the ref and Odom passed the ball back and forth seven times before they were close enough to each other that the bounce pass to Odom only hit the floor once before reaching him. Play resumed as usual from there. Seen anything like that?
3) Are leaners and drifting shots easier to execute than in the demo?
Thanks in advance.
WITNESS2K9
Member
yo can i get in this league
Future PhaZe
Member
rinse82 said:
You should play Shawn.
See how the game feels without cheese abusers!
Shawnwhann
Banned
Alright guys, here's some early impressions.
The Good
+ The gameplay feels better than the demo. With a few clicks on the Broadcast camera zoomed in, and a full complement of strategy and play-calling options, it's a whole other experience. 2K just needs to stop putting out demos
+Playcalling system and on court diagrams is much better than last year. In addition to quick plays, each player has their own set of plays you can select from.
+ Offball movement is very good. Guys cut off screens and into open spaces quite frequently. You can totally play freestyle offense and watch for players posting up, running backdoor screens, and getting into position for early hoops
+ Not a huge fan of the point and click menu navigation, but it looks a hell of a lot more solid than last years ugly menus
+ In game presentation layers are integrated smoothly, listening to the dynamic commentary is as awesome as the videos Momentous at OS made. The announcers talked about how the Lakers led the season series against the Sacramento Queens 2-1, how Fisher was ranked 4th in FT percentages, and conference records of both teams amongst other things
+ Loving the game soundtrack, a bunch of hip-hop bangers!
+ The stamina/turbo meter is the best thing ever, definitely helped against the online guy I played
+ Association Mode is one of the most impressive and overwhelming Dynasty modes I've ever been in. There's so much to see and do making you at a loss for where to start. I could write a whole 800 word post just detailing the depth here, simply staggering. It begs the question of how sound is everything under the hood though...
+ In simming half a season, a bunch of crazy stuff went down. Bynum and Gasol both got minor injuries, the Knicks offered David Lee and Nate Robinson for Pau Gasol, Farmar wanted to be traded, and I got points for going a 5 game win streak.
+ Post game is 1000000x better than Live's post game. There's so many options here from shimmys, different types of fakes, pivot moves making it a really cool chess game. Going to enjoy getting into this more.
The Bad
-FG %'s are high, but we already know this.
-Help defense is a little annoying. It's like my players drift away from perimeter shooters for no reason giving the CPU too many wide open shots. I literally have to anticipate where the ball may go, switch to the defensive player, and try to contest everything because the CPU help does a shitty job of staying put. This is with "Help D" turned all the way down too.
-Player faces have the zombie look on the cutaway screens. Makes them look eerie as hell. Played three games with my Lakers, and I'm still waiting for that Kobe mean face!!
- Slowdown in the Cavs arena was brutal but appears to be an isolated issue. In playing in Portland, Sacramento, and Staples Center, there wasn't any slowdown. But I do still think that Live has the upper-hand on overall graphical fidelity. You'll see some sharp elbows here and there.
-Post game is ridonkulously unrealistic with it comes to capabilities. Scrubs on the Queens were doing up and unders on Pau like they were Kareem
- Isomotion needs to die a slow and painful death after this year. They say it's simplified, but it's still way too hard to remember all the move combinations. It's stiff, unintuitive, and not entirely responsive. They can easily use the L Trigger as a modifier allowing the R Stick to be used for dribble moves.
- Leaners and momentum shots are hit n miss in execution. Sometimes they work, but most times they don't.
- Alley-Opps are dope, but they are way too easy to pull off in traffic.
- Post game stats and diagrams are buggy. The shot maps don't accurately show off misses and makes. In a game I shot 13 times with Kobe, there was only 2 greens and 2 reds... Sloppy!!
- Online gameplay vs randoms will be frustrating again. All the cheese we know and hate is still there. You can rip inbounds passes, double team and switch to someone else to steal, play the lanes for steals without substantial risks, pick and roll and it's not even Day 1 yet...
- No lobbies again, no detail on a players connect/drop history prior to a game, it's the wild wild west again.
Overall, 2K10 seems like it'll be a keeper if not for Association Mode alone. When you're playing the CPU, you can play a sim style experience while knowing the CPU will return the favor. In head to head games, it appears that all bets will be off just like the past few years were. I can confidently say that I'll be around for 2K10 league play.
Questions?
The Good
+ The gameplay feels better than the demo. With a few clicks on the Broadcast camera zoomed in, and a full complement of strategy and play-calling options, it's a whole other experience. 2K just needs to stop putting out demos
+Playcalling system and on court diagrams is much better than last year. In addition to quick plays, each player has their own set of plays you can select from.
+ Offball movement is very good. Guys cut off screens and into open spaces quite frequently. You can totally play freestyle offense and watch for players posting up, running backdoor screens, and getting into position for early hoops
+ Not a huge fan of the point and click menu navigation, but it looks a hell of a lot more solid than last years ugly menus
+ In game presentation layers are integrated smoothly, listening to the dynamic commentary is as awesome as the videos Momentous at OS made. The announcers talked about how the Lakers led the season series against the Sacramento Queens 2-1, how Fisher was ranked 4th in FT percentages, and conference records of both teams amongst other things
+ Loving the game soundtrack, a bunch of hip-hop bangers!
+ The stamina/turbo meter is the best thing ever, definitely helped against the online guy I played
+ Association Mode is one of the most impressive and overwhelming Dynasty modes I've ever been in. There's so much to see and do making you at a loss for where to start. I could write a whole 800 word post just detailing the depth here, simply staggering. It begs the question of how sound is everything under the hood though...
+ In simming half a season, a bunch of crazy stuff went down. Bynum and Gasol both got minor injuries, the Knicks offered David Lee and Nate Robinson for Pau Gasol, Farmar wanted to be traded, and I got points for going a 5 game win streak.
+ Post game is 1000000x better than Live's post game. There's so many options here from shimmys, different types of fakes, pivot moves making it a really cool chess game. Going to enjoy getting into this more.
The Bad
-FG %'s are high, but we already know this.
-Help defense is a little annoying. It's like my players drift away from perimeter shooters for no reason giving the CPU too many wide open shots. I literally have to anticipate where the ball may go, switch to the defensive player, and try to contest everything because the CPU help does a shitty job of staying put. This is with "Help D" turned all the way down too.
-Player faces have the zombie look on the cutaway screens. Makes them look eerie as hell. Played three games with my Lakers, and I'm still waiting for that Kobe mean face!!
- Slowdown in the Cavs arena was brutal but appears to be an isolated issue. In playing in Portland, Sacramento, and Staples Center, there wasn't any slowdown. But I do still think that Live has the upper-hand on overall graphical fidelity. You'll see some sharp elbows here and there.
-Post game is ridonkulously unrealistic with it comes to capabilities. Scrubs on the Queens were doing up and unders on Pau like they were Kareem
- Isomotion needs to die a slow and painful death after this year. They say it's simplified, but it's still way too hard to remember all the move combinations. It's stiff, unintuitive, and not entirely responsive. They can easily use the L Trigger as a modifier allowing the R Stick to be used for dribble moves.
- Leaners and momentum shots are hit n miss in execution. Sometimes they work, but most times they don't.
- Alley-Opps are dope, but they are way too easy to pull off in traffic.
- Post game stats and diagrams are buggy. The shot maps don't accurately show off misses and makes. In a game I shot 13 times with Kobe, there was only 2 greens and 2 reds... Sloppy!!
- Online gameplay vs randoms will be frustrating again. All the cheese we know and hate is still there. You can rip inbounds passes, double team and switch to someone else to steal, play the lanes for steals without substantial risks, pick and roll and it's not even Day 1 yet...
- No lobbies again, no detail on a players connect/drop history prior to a game, it's the wild wild west again.
Overall, 2K10 seems like it'll be a keeper if not for Association Mode alone. When you're playing the CPU, you can play a sim style experience while knowing the CPU will return the favor. In head to head games, it appears that all bets will be off just like the past few years were. I can confidently say that I'll be around for 2K10 league play.
Questions?
Shawnwhann
Banned
anachronous_one said:
1. I don't really play with 2K cam anymore, but in the offline game I played it did chug sporadically in US Airways Center in Phoenix.
2. Inbounding the ball is not as clean as I'd like. In addition to the steal tactic, sometimes the ref zones out for a long time before handing the ball off....like he's high or something :lol
3. Nope, leaners and drifting shots are fundamentally inconsistent making it broken in my opinion
Future PhaZe
Member
Thanks for the writeup!
Overall how do you feel about defense in the online league this year? Better or inferior to 2k9?
Overall how do you feel about defense in the online league this year? Better or inferior to 2k9?
Shawnwhann
Banned
Dark FaZe said:
TBD, I'm still relearning the game after spending so much time on Live 10. Things are looking ok though.
Dark Octave
Banned
I notice that the animations in the demo are not as natural and fluid as Live10.
speculawyer
Member
How do you guys get early copies? Are you reviewers?
Do you know people at retail that break the street date?
Do you know people at retail that break the street date?
Red Blaster
Member
Thanks Shawn, could you elaborate a bit on the improvements in Association mode?
Shawnwhann
Banned
The one thing I will say about defense is that I'm really not feeling how dumb the A.I. is when it comes to staying with their man. Starting to feel like I have to play zone to get better coverage on some offensive sets.
Ugh...The Suns shot 83 percent on me in the first half of an Association game I'm playing right now. The sliders get some workin' out after this game. Down 30-34
Ugh...The Suns shot 83 percent on me in the first half of an Association game I'm playing right now. The sliders get some workin' out after this game. Down 30-34
Shawnwhann
Banned
speculawyer said:
Street date is broken in some cities, but I'm just the lucky benefactor of having some connections to people that have 2K Games as a marketing client.
I promised some hook-ups when my "other" connections break their street dates, so I ain't forgot about yall! ;-)
KolosLazar16
Member
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4520184
Seems like dynamic season just like NBA today (with maybe some nice shit from dynamic dna) but damn, instead of wasting all that time EA should have made dynasty legit
Seems like dynamic season just like NBA today (with maybe some nice shit from dynamic dna) but damn, instead of wasting all that time EA should have made dynasty legit
Herpes Reasons
Banned
added to waiting list. dont worry though, some poor sap will bail for live 10 leauge.WITNESS2K9 said:
(cb3?)
if im nice, im getting my copy on fridayspeculawyer said:
Shawnwhann
Banned
Well, the Suns just finished running me off their court with a 71-51 victory. They shot a sizzling 80% all game while I only managed to shoot a paltry 56%. :lol
The game is fundamentally sound, but I suspect it would feel so much better had I not been spoiled by Live's silky smooth momentum-based jump shooting game.
Time to take a break for now, I have to get preparations in order for a game show I'm going to be on tomorrow!
The game is fundamentally sound, but I suspect it would feel so much better had I not been spoiled by Live's silky smooth momentum-based jump shooting game.
Time to take a break for now, I have to get preparations in order for a game show I'm going to be on tomorrow!
KolosLazar16
Member
So shawn are you back on the 2k ship i cant tell
Shawnwhann
Banned
chaoticprout said:
I'm content with being a two-timing whore, but my heart really belongs to the revolucion though!
Future PhaZe
Member
When will you have a Live 10 writeup?
Shawnwhann
Banned
Dark FaZe said:
Whenever I get my paws on a retail copy.
jordan0386
Member
If I gotta say it everyday I will.
In the post and very tight.
In the post and very tight.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
I don't see anything wrong with that.ph33nix said:
Net_Wrecker
Member
So what's the definitive answer to framerate drops in 2K/Drive cameras? Is it as bad as 2K9? Is it there at all? Does installing to the hard drive smooth it out?
SOMEBODY PLEASE:lol This was my only truly huge annoyance in 2K9.
SOMEBODY PLEASE:lol This was my only truly huge annoyance in 2K9.
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