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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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Oh now I understand what you mean.

Im not posting here because I got banned from N4G. I'm still active on that site and I'm a contributor as well.

Always a good look when week-old accounts are engaging in meta discussion

You talking about me?

After being on N4G for over 9 years I decided to take a look at Gaf. I have been lurking here when Goku started that Next Gen Speculation thread. I decided to join because it looks like a good place to have a discussion.

I know what you had to deal with over the past year especially in that thread that I was keeping my eye on. So I know your suspicious of any new members here. But not everyone is an alt. Some people really just want to join to participate in discussions here.

One thing that I can't really do on N4G is participate in lengthy discussions about rumors. Here I can do that.
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Mista

Banned
Oh now I understand what you mean.

Im not posting here because I got banned from N4G. I'm still active on that site and I'm a contributor as well.



You talking about me?

After being on N4G for over 9 years I decided to take a look at Gaf. I have been lurking here when Goku started that Next Gen Speculation thread. I decided to join because it looks like a good place to have a discussion.

I know what you had to deal with over the past year especially in that thread that I was keeping my eye on. So I know your suspicious of any new members here. But not everyone is an alt. Some people really just want to join to participate in discussions here.

One thing that I can't really do on N4G is participate in lengthy discussions about rumors. Here I can do that.
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Welcome aboard
 

Papa

Banned
Oh now I understand what you mean.

Im not posting here because I got banned from N4G. I'm still active on that site and I'm a contributor as well.



You talking about me?

After being on N4G for over 9 years I decided to take a look at Gaf. I have been lurking here when Goku started that Next Gen Speculation thread. I decided to join because it looks like a good place to have a discussion.

I know what you had to deal with over the past year especially in that thread that I was keeping my eye on. So I know your suspicious of any new members here. But not everyone is an alt. Some people really just want to join to participate in discussions here.

One thing that I can't really do on N4G is participate in lengthy discussions about rumors. Here I can do that.
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Don’t care. It’s common courtesy to ingratiate yourself into a community before providing metacommentary or criticism. Especially when you’re weighing in on a recently banned long term member.

I'm new to the site so I really didn't know Brap. But reading through your explanation gives me insight on how moderation works here and I thank you for that.

Based on what you said it seems more than fair the action that you took.
 
I've been posting on that other place for so long that I have to get used to being new again if that makes any sense.

Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it.
My pleasure, and what I like about GAF is that you can be yourself very quickly! The emoji reaction system is a great way to build a rapport/relationship with other users as well, so try liking, laughing, praising, or loving posts for now and dont be afraid to dip your feet into the discussions as long as you're comfortable doing so in thr first week :D
 

Papa

Banned
My pleasure, and what I like about GAF is that you can be yourself very quickly! The emoji reaction system is a great way to build a rapport/relationship with other users as well, so try liking, laughing, praising, or loving posts for now and dont be afraid to dip your feet into the discussions as long as you're comfortable doing so in thr first week :D

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Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
My pleasure, and what I like about GAF is that you can be yourself very quickly! The emoji reaction system is a great way to build a rapport/relationship with other users as well, so try liking, laughing, praising, or loving posts for now and dont be afraid to dip your feet into the discussions as long as you're comfortable doing so in thr first week :D
Look at this guy, farming reactions from the new guy already?
 
My pleasure, and what I like about GAF is that you can be yourself very quickly! The emoji reaction system is a great way to build a rapport/relationship with other users as well, so try liking, laughing, praising, or loving posts for now and dont be afraid to dip your feet into the discussions as long as you're comfortable doing so in thr first week :D
ima say a gamer word if you make one more post like this
 

TaySan

Banned
My pleasure, and what I like about GAF is that you can be yourself very quickly! The emoji reaction system is a great way to build a rapport/relationship with other users as well, so try liking, laughing, praising, or loving posts for now and dont be afraid to dip your feet into the discussions as long as you're comfortable doing so in thr first week :D
You earned yourself a like my friend.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Ok that makes sense.

Sorry about that.
Don’t apologise. There are no rules, written or unwritten on GAF that restrict you from posting metacommentary. The only rule should be common sense courtesy (although, even that’s being stretched as of late) and nothing you wrote was discourteous.

You can post where you like and offer your opinions as long as they aren’t unjustly offensive.

Welcome to the forum.
 
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Tesseract

Banned
sorta baked, final thoughts, take or leave

the hard thing with brap, i said this elsewhere but it bears repeating -->

when i think about the lot of his posts, i laugh because his antagonism usually targeted ideas, not people (okay sometimes people, even i've been under the gun)

he was fun to be around, you cannot count the amount of icebreaker moments he's provided, but there is a level of protected user status we should try to avoid, especially when people wrack up excessive warnings and temporary bans

rip brother, one of the best

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Kadayi

Banned
I don't get all this adoration for Brap, I must have missed all his great, entertaining posts. He reminded me of an angry, autistic 14-yr old. Maybe he's an acquired taste.

I much prefer Papa Papa or Cunth Cunth shitposting. You're now the undisputed kings of GAF shitposters,.

It's not about him from a personality perspective so much as how he was abruptly banned over a fairly innocuous meme in one of the console threads. After people naturally kicked up a stink here the ban message got changed to [Multiple] but frankly, Like a few others here I'm not particularly keen on the notion of Perms except for irredeemable shit/spam versus ever-increasing ban penalties (with a reset for long term sustained good behaviour). There's no lesson to a perm, there's just a loss.
 
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Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered can you un-ban my first Gaf account. It was back in 2009, and I was banned after only 12 posts.
Here is the post that got me banned.


"The texutre work in KZ was pretty ordinary, but it wasnt the textures that made it look good. Just like in Uncharted it was the textures and animations that made it look good. We can just keep it on the PS3 for risk of making it look like a console war. Uncharteds spanks KZ2 in textures, while KZ2's lighting looks better. Both are good games, yet different art direction. Ask one person he says KZ's better, another says Uncharted looks better. Both are top of the chain games by quality developers. MW2 is also top of the food chain."


I think you would agree that it was an overzealous ban. While it was over 9 years ago, I feel justice should never be denied.
Also, which mod banned me for that?
 
Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered can you un-ban my first Gaf account. It was back in 2009, and I was banned after only 12 posts.
Here is the post that got me banned.


"The texutre work in KZ was pretty ordinary, but it wasnt the textures that made it look good. Just like in Uncharted it was the textures and animations that made it look good. We can just keep it on the PS3 for risk of making it look like a console war. Uncharteds spanks KZ2 in textures, while KZ2's lighting looks better. Both are good games, yet different art direction. Ask one person he says KZ's better, another says Uncharted looks better. Both are top of the chain games by quality developers. MW2 is also top of the food chain."


I think you would agree that it was an overzealous ban. While it was over 9 years ago, I feel justice should never be denied.
Also, which mod banned me for that?
Timdog ain't gonna be allowed to come back again, dude.
 

Mod of War: Remastered

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Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered can you un-ban my first Gaf account. It was back in 2009, and I was banned after only 12 posts.
Here is the post that got me banned.


"The texutre work in KZ was pretty ordinary, but it wasnt the textures that made it look good. Just like in Uncharted it was the textures and animations that made it look good. We can just keep it on the PS3 for risk of making it look like a console war. Uncharteds spanks KZ2 in textures, while KZ2's lighting looks better. Both are good games, yet different art direction. Ask one person he says KZ's better, another says Uncharted looks better. Both are top of the chain games by quality developers. MW2 is also top of the food chain."


I think you would agree that it was an overzealous ban. While it was over 9 years ago, I feel justice should never be denied.
Also, which mod banned me for that?

I’ll see if EviLore EviLore can look into it and merge your two accounts.
 

Scotty W

Banned
I am a Nintendo fanboy to the extent that I have never even so much as glanced at one of these console wars threads, and so I was completely unaware of @brap’s toxicity. Apart from that he seems just like yer regular old everyday gaf shitposter.

A permaban seems a bit much. What about letting him back after the nextgen releases, and he can show proof of shit disturbing over at ressetera?
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
I am a Nintendo fanboy to the extent that I have never even so much as glanced at one of these console wars threads, and so I was completely unaware of @brap’s toxicity. Apart from that he seems just like yer regular old everyday gaf shitposter.

A permaban seems a bit much. What about letting him back after the nextgen releases, and he can show proof of shit disturbing over at ressetera?
Don’t EVER ask brap for proof of shit disturbing.

EVER.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
Tbh I have no beef with brap - don't think I interacted much with him. I get people missing him, and the idea of not perming people, but I suspect that at a certain point a user becomes a lot of work (and from the sound of it that was the case here), and it's worth remembering the mods aren't paid to wade through our shit, so really if they're working on something and getting nowhere they may well feel that it's better to spend their limited energy elsewhere. None of this is intended to suggest any malice from brap or laziness from mods.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
The whole gaming section is in pretty bad shape right now. That said I would vote for banning from sections as opposed to outright perms.

There's certainly a lack of quality in the threads - I suspect though that is to be expected as all the hype around new consoles kicks off. It doesn't happen too often so at least it'll eventually calm down and we can have somewhat deeper discussions than teraflop pissing contests. I simply don't bother entering those threads as I'm a PC guy anyway and just try to find interesting threads in the depths of the stuff past page 1.

For the rest of us - let's do what we tell people to do when they complain this place isn't active enough. Be the change we want to see. Make those interesting threads, talk about new games that interest you, or even old games you're playing or want to play. I've made https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-st-format-challenge.1533843/ for that purpose, let's see others do their bit.
 
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Thabass

Member
I'm sad to hear brap got perm'd. I'm like others that say he should be banned from the gaming section. But at what point do you draw the line? How do we know brap won't be as vitriol on other parts of GAF. I'd say that GAF mods gave brap plenty of chances. There's only so much you can do to help someone go in a certain direction.

The last step is a perma for sure. But why not give him one more chance and try to just ban him from the gaming section for now.

Although, I have to say, I don't understand console warring. To me, their the same hardware and it's more about the games. As long as the games are good, why the fuck do we even have to have a "war"? It's all so dumb to me. 🤷‍♂️
 
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