New MacBook Pro leaked by Apple itself in latest macOS update

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Honest question how many Pro's here are gonna switch to a Windows 10 Laptop to dev on? Or, simply stick with their current MBP?

Windows 10 Anniversary is a fucking shit show.
 
I wish there was at least one of the larger USB ports in it. I rarely use an sd card and I have a card reader for those moments so that's okay, same with hdmi, but just one usb port would be nice.

Other than that this looks great to me. Hopefully if it is the butterfly keyboard they've made a lot more improvements on it, I hated it when I tried out the MacBook.
 
Honest question how many Pro's here are gonna switch to a Windows 10 Laptop to dev on? Or, simply stick with their current MBP?

Windows 10 Anniversary is a fucking shit show.

I think the situation will have to get really bad for someone to switch their entire environment. I just don't see how Linux distros are a viable alternative if you want a stable, reliable work environment.
 
Honest question how many Pro's here are gonna switch to a Windows 10 Laptop to dev on? Or, simply stick with their current MBP?

Windows 10 Anniversary is a fucking shit show.
I do a lot of iOS development on mine, so I have no option to switch, but I might stick with my 2012 retina. That thing still feels pretty damn good to be honest.
 
This is a weird way for them to try to tighten their belt across all their product lines. It seems like they only want to produce two different port parts for all of their devices: lightning and USB-C. Greater economies of scale, bigger market for accessories.

Meanwhile, Lenovos, machines made for professional work, have any port you could possibly need nowadays.
 
Your battery has got to be fried though, no? Mine is completely spent.
It was. I replaced it earlier this year with a new battery purchased from iFixit. it was a nightmare to replace it with what kind of glue it was glued, and how carefully you have to remove it, so the cells don't break and explode. Still, it cost me $100 to do it, while Apple wanted to charge me $300. If you decide to do it, watch the video of a guy who uses alcohol to dissolve the glue. That's the only way it can be done.

The irony of it all is that there's absolutely no reason for the battery to be glued in there. If you leave the protective plastic that covers the glue strips, the battery is sandwiched in there and can't move a bit.
 
My 2011 MacBook Pro really could use an upgrade but since switching to an SSD and 8 gb of ram it holds its own for what I use it for (anything that isn't graphical intensive).

Next year or so I'll probably need a new computer for sure. I need a MacOS device because I want a way to get stuff into iOS (and I love MacOS) but the Pro line right now just feels too expensive for what I use it for. As I said, a Windows desktop and a MacBook might make more sense. We will see.
 
Just had to check if my MBP has an SD slot :lol

Honestly don't get the complaints when USB-C can do it all, you don't need "dongles" because most stuff use replaceable cables that you can update; and don't even get me started on how much better charging off USB is compared to proprietary Magsafe. I might just bust a vein.
Also it's rumored that Apple may introduce some USB-C based variation of Magsafe; true or not it doesn't matter, USB-C charging will always be superior and far outweigh the Magsafe sole advantage.

I'll probably keep my MBP 2014 with all those ports everyone rages about (and are not used 99% of the time), but I'll admit I'm so so jelly, especially of, you guessed it, USB-C charging.
 
I'm pretty sure the SD card slot on my Pro is broke so I've just been using the USB port on the camera to transfer photos for years now.

That's what I said earlier in the thread. The pins aren't that robust. Towards the end of the slot's lifespan I had to apply pressure to the card from below until it finished transferring. Then it just stopped working.
 
and don't even get me started on how much better charging off USB is compared to proprietary Magsafe. I might just bust a vein.
If you're thinking of convenience, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to charge MBP by plugging it into a USB port of some random PC. You'll still need to lug the charger around. On the other hand, magsafe has probably saved me from having to buy a new laptop at least 5 times so far, so I'm very happy about that rumor - having best of both will be good.
 
I don't see the point of the OLED touch strip. It looks like it just repeats the same information that could easily be viewed on screen. It seems like an unnecessary feature that has simply been added to distinguish the new MBP.
 
A common theme in these threads seems to be conflating "I don't use ______" with "Nobody uses ______".

A good segment of Mac users would be sorely inconvenienced by the removal of SD, HDMI, and all USB-A ports, and so far the explanations for their removal aren't overwhelmingly convincing.
 
Honest question how many Pro's here are gonna switch to a Windows 10 Laptop to dev on? Or, simply stick with their current MBP?

Windows 10 Anniversary is a fucking shit show.

Anniversary basically eliminated the need for Linux. Only reason to stay on macOS is if you are stuck needing xcode. Honestly, if I bought my own dev machine it'd be a Surfacebook.
 
We have only seen literally one example of how it is used.
Yeah, but else is it going to do? Display current music tracks, new email notifications, battery level. It's just a gimmick that will likely end up repeating information that could be easily viewed on screen.
 
You can, but that seems like a bad idea. CTRL and Caps-Lock are too easy to press accidentally.

I would argue "control" is very difficult to depress accidentally, except if you are aiming for alt/option. That said, overriding 20 years of muscle memory in vi would be the hard part for me.
 
Yeah, but else is it going to do? Display current music tracks, new email notifications, battery level. It's just a gimmick that will likely end up repeating information that could be easily viewed on screen.

The most obvious use I can think of is that apps will program it with shortcuts so that it basically works as programmable hotkeys, not as an information display. The trademarked name was "Magic Toolbar", after all.
 
Yeah, but else is it going to do? Display current music tracks, new email notifications, battery level. It's just a gimmick that will likely end up repeating information that could be easily viewed on screen.

Yeah, I have a feeling it'll wind up duplicating a lot of information in the menu bar at most times, and maybe some from the notification center..
 
Anniversary basically eliminated the need for Linux. Only reason to stay on macOS is if you are stuck needing xcode. Honestly, if I bought my own dev machine it'd be a Surfacebook.

Maybe for some cases, but it's most definitely not a fully-realized solution at this point. It's still very early to say it displaced the need for running Linux.
 
A common theme in these threads seems to be conflating "I don't use ______" with "Nobody uses ______".

A good segment of Mac users would be sorely inconvenienced by the removal of SD, HDMI, and all USB-A ports, and so far the explanations for their removal aren't overwhelmingly convincing.
Apple remains in a position to bully movement toward the connectivity future they envision, regardless of contemporary inconvenience.
 
If you're thinking of convenience, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to charge MBP by plugging it into a USB port of some random PC or anything like that. You'll still need to lug the charger around. On the other hand, magsafe has probably saved me from having to buy a new laptop at least 5 times so far, so I'm very happy about that rumor.
Convenience, cost, quality and variety of cables (tied to larger supply and no more monopoly), flexibility, universality, ubiquity.

Especially as the standard grows. Not everyone has a USB-C charger... yet. But they will. Probably multiple ones per household. Imagine them in universities everywhere, in public places, in offices, in cars. That's the dream. That's how you tackle battery limitations.

I get the safety thing, and I actually had the first laptop I've ever owned destroyed by a dog tripping on the charger cable. But there are fewer moving components these days, computers are lighter, memory is solid state, there's AppleCare, and the ports/cables can be worked to be low-friction too. Accidents can happen but every non-Macbook owner deals with no magsafe, even Macbook owners since the new Macbook, and there's not a tripping crisis out there. It’s not worth to choose a proprietary single-use port without even a licensing program over something as great as USB-C.
 
A common theme in these threads seems to be conflating "I don't use ______" with "Nobody uses ______".

A good segment of Mac users would be sorely inconvenienced by the removal of SD, HDMI, and all USB-A ports, and so far the explanations for their removal aren't overwhelmingly convincing.

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A great many of these inconvenienced many people. They don't care. They do it because they can regardless of short term lost utility or inconvenience for their customers. Whatever their goals are, from pushing a specific standard to reducing the size or weight of their devices, take precedence.

Yeah, but else is it going to do? Display current music tracks, new email notifications, battery level. It's just a gimmick that will likely end up repeating information that could be easily viewed on screen.
Game changer for me would be custom emoji shortcuts whenever a text input field is active.
 
The lack of HDMI and the SD Card slot will sting. Unless they add those for a 15" variant in which case that's OK.
e: Also the loss of magsafe is a pitty.
 
"Real" pros don't use SD slots btw.

CompactFlash/CFast cards instead.

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The strip looks fairly useless to me unless I can somehow use them as macro keys. Now that would be pretty nice
 
Yeah, not gonna lie, this feels like a "Pro" machine for posers.
- Keyboard that doesn't feel very robust or precise for typing.
- Lack of built in ports for the most basic of things (SD and HDMI were really nice and useful to have)
- Lack of physical F-keys and ESC. Although I can see the touchpad being useful in say, video editing, I wish the keys were there too.
- Tacky "MacBook Pro" logo to remind me that I'm a PRO!

I hope 15" model will have at least some of the above improved.

This feels like a post for posers. Aside from the current generation of the MBP, all of Apple's laptops have had their model name below the screen.


The touch strip looks pretty interesting to me, especially if it's very customizable—either natively or via third-party software. And I'm looking forward to finally being able to use the caps lock key for something useful.
 
A common theme in these threads seems to be conflating "I don't use ______" with "Nobody uses ______".

A good segment of Mac users would be sorely inconvenienced by the removal of SD, HDMI, and all USB-A ports, and so far the explanations for their removal aren't overwhelmingly convincing.

User have always been inconvenienced by the removal of legacy ports. It was painful to lose PS/2, and serial, and ADB, and FW400, et al.

You can argue against something like the removal of the headphone jack because you're losing a physical port and its replacement is Bluetooth, which has some disadvantages... but migrating from USB-A and Thunderbolt and HDMI ports to a single port that can do what all those ports do seems like a pretty clear advantage.
 
Well, at least they're keeping the headphone jack. Gotta count my blessings here.

Though if this isn't a substantial specs/functionality leap from the previous MBP model, I might just jump on that one since I'd probably save a lot of money.
 
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