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A laptop without a SD card slot? Is this real?? What the hell... Who supports this?
New MacBook Pro leaked by Apple itself in latest macOS update
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Mac Pro? December 19, 2013.
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
My sarcasm meter might be off today, as is my HDMI/SD port detector.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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cool, more shit to crack that I can fix.
What do you even need the slot for? Use a card reader or use the camera via USB cable.
It really does! And I've never used it, d'oh!I guess I won't miss it.
I just want it to be able to properly drive a 4k external display at 60hz, and to have a much brighter display than the 2012 model.
This exchange was just sad.
Anyway, just use USB-C to drive the external display via display port.
He probably needed it so he didn't have to do either of those things.
No HDMI or SD? 4 useless USB-C instead? Touch bar no one asked for? No touch screen?
Yeah. Apple waited too long and is now trying to future proof to a future no one wants. This thing is DoA. Mac sales will continue their freefall. How disappointing that Apple is just a phone company now.
I miss Jobs
Yeah. Apple waited too long and is now trying to future proof to a future no one wants. This thing is DoA. Mac sales will continue their freefall. How disappointing that Apple is just a phone company now.
I miss Jobs
USB-C carries USB 3.1, Thunderbolt 3, HDMI, and DisplayPort all in one port.
You just need a new cable.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Wait.... Where's the speakers at??
Also, again, Apple taking USB-C on everything but the iPad and iPhone...This is such trash. What's the point of the uniformity if you are just going to dismiss it on the major consumer devices... Ugh.. I'm keeping my 2015 MBP
Also, again, Apple taking USB-C on everything but the iPad and iPhone...This is such trash. What's the point of the uniformity if you are just going to dismiss it on the major consumer devices... Ugh.. I'm keeping my 2015 MBP
But you have to physically take the card out of the camera, is it really less convenient plugging a cable in?
To be honest I'm surprised the SD card slot has lasted as long as it did.
USB-A and HDMI aren't legacy ports. AUX is over 100 years old. AUX is legacy.
What if people don't want to buy 4 dongles for something as simple as charging their phone and using an external monitor? There is no reason for the removal of these ports other than pure greed. This isn't anywhere near the same thing as the AUX cable fiasco. They must be getting a kickback from the USB-C creators.
Correction, you need to literally carry a bag of dongles everywhere you go. Which sounds like an incredibly huge pain in the ass when 100% of other laptops don't have the same problem.
Only the real Apple shills will pick up this "Upgrade" over a legacy MacBook Pro or one of the 900 other options out there. Unless it has incredible internals, which I kinda doubt.
Souless_PJ
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On each side of the keyboard.
reminder that this is the poster who thinks apple's best business strategy would be bringing back the ipod so you can dual-wield pokemon go with your phone
I never said it would be their best business strategy. I said that killing the brand known as "iPod" (Beyond the touch) is leaving a huge stack of money on the table, to a company that just posted their first annual loss in 15 years.
They need to be safe right now and removing the HDMI and SD slots isn't a safe move. They need the Mac, iPod, Watch, etc products to fill the gap left by peak smartphone, but their other products are far from delivering. Apple is in a bad spot right now.
Edit: No MagSafe or GPU either? So what will the macbook have at this point? (Besides the assumed lack of Magic Taskbar support on Windows with BootCamp .. looking forward to no F keys and just an empty black bar instead judging by their latest bootcamp support.)
Honestly I really wonder what the heck they're doing in Cupertino.
itsbenoclock
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So no magsafe? Ugh...
Are there reports of no discrete GPU too? Or is that just posters making stuff up? No GPU, no buy.
Are there reports of no discrete GPU too? Or is that just posters making stuff up? No GPU, no buy.
There's been heavy rumors of an AMD GPU destined for an MBP - the RX 480M seems likely, as it fits in the TDP threshold of the last few 15" MBP GPUs. If it's anything like the last few years though, it'll be limited only to a top-end 15" configuration.
What? I use the SD-slot all the time. I freelance as a videographer and photographer, and both my camera and my audio recorder use SD-Cards. Transferring from the camera with a cable is slower and it also means I can't use the camera to film/take pictures with another SD-card while it's transferring. Card reader would be the only option, but it's annoying to have even more things to bring with me.
SD cards are more than just for cameras...
They're storage in my security cameras, storage in my tablets, storage in certain handhelds, for sharing files at work on offline test systems.
Then you just need one adapter that has multiple uses.
I just bought a USB-C adapter for my WINDOWS PC that has 4 ports in a palm sized block.
1. USB A 3.0
2. Gigabit Ethernet
3. VGA
4. HDMI
People making shit up regarding no discreet GPU option. All signs point to AMD Polaris GPU option.
I use CF cards nearly all the time but the SD card reader is definitely convenient.
Generally all of the "improvements" to this MBP seem like total fucking hassles to me. No magsafe is a downgrade, contextual LED keys is a downgrade, less ports is a downgrade. Very happy with my 2015 13" MBP and will be for at least a few more years to come.
uncelestial
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I'm one of those suckers who got the "Macbook" with one USB-C slot for both charging, and anything else. Let me tell you it is actually fucking awesome. Yes, I have a dongle for everything from HDMI to USB to SD card slot. But guess what? I maybe bust that thing out once every 2 weeks. 99% of the time I'm just so glad that it's thin and light has a beautiful retina screen.
Portability and lightness is fucking important when it comes to laptops. Unlike phones, we're talking on the order of entire lbs being shaved off the weight of these devices through miniaturization and convergence. My Macbook is 2 pounds in weight, it's actually lighter than my iPad 3 and about half as heavy as my Dell laptop with an NVidia GPU and 17" screen. I carry this tiny thing in my bag to and from work every day and I barely feel it.
Plus, docking the Macbook is a one-connection deal. One connection to a dongle and I'm using an HDMI monitor, ethernet cable, and charging.
There's so much progress to be made in laptop miniaturization that I can't believe people are whining about ports going away, honestly, and I'm someone who railed on (and will continue to rail on) Apple for taking the headphone port out of the iPhone. There are shaving a fraction of a millimeter of length kind of improvements, and there are shaving 2 pounds of weight kind of improvements.
Portability and lightness is fucking important when it comes to laptops. Unlike phones, we're talking on the order of entire lbs being shaved off the weight of these devices through miniaturization and convergence. My Macbook is 2 pounds in weight, it's actually lighter than my iPad 3 and about half as heavy as my Dell laptop with an NVidia GPU and 17" screen. I carry this tiny thing in my bag to and from work every day and I barely feel it.
Plus, docking the Macbook is a one-connection deal. One connection to a dongle and I'm using an HDMI monitor, ethernet cable, and charging.
There's so much progress to be made in laptop miniaturization that I can't believe people are whining about ports going away, honestly, and I'm someone who railed on (and will continue to rail on) Apple for taking the headphone port out of the iPhone. There are shaving a fraction of a millimeter of length kind of improvements, and there are shaving 2 pounds of weight kind of improvements.
Exactly! I use the SD slot all the time too. Removing the AUX port was more of a user-focused removal. Cords get in the way, can be yanked, can be responsible for the destruction of an iPhone. Trying to force bluetooth makes sense for phones.
Trying to force dongles on a MacBook I feel has the opposite effect. Very anti-user. Forget the dongles? You're screwed. Someone hits your cord while the computer is charging? Your MacBook Pro is now a GroundBook Smashed.
Sounds neat. I backed a kickstarter last year for a similar hub and the kickstarter failed, so I assumed this was more pie-in-the-sky technology reserved for the future. Had no idea the hubs actually worked now.
But the problem is it's not really smaller than the current MBP, like hardly at all judging by the leaks. If it were as thin as your Retina MB, that'd be one thing. The problem is there's TONS of space for those ports still. There's no excuse at this point. (Might change tomorrow)
Difference in weight and thin-ness between the 13" mbp and macbook isn't really that big.
You realize you're arguing that carrying a random USB cable around in your pocket is easier than carrying nothing, right?
No HDMI or SD? 4 useless USB-C instead? Touch bar no one asked for? No touch screen?
Yeah. Apple waited too long and is now trying to future proof to a future no one wants. This thing is DoA. Mac sales will continue their freefall. How disappointing that Apple is just a phone company now.
I miss Jobs
Agreed but I haven't given up yet. I still prefer macOS a good bit compared to Windows. My 2013 MBP is still holding pretty well though so I'll see how things play out over the next two years. I could see myself going Surface Book 3 (or so). Surface Book is just so much more interesting as a modern day computer.
killertofu
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The people complaining about lack of SD slot baffle me. Yes, it sucks losing a port but if you're on an actual professional shoot (Whether you're a DIT or whatever) a dongle is going to be least of your worries.
What actual professional camera shoots on an SD card?
Cameras like the AMIRA use CFast cards
Blackmagic uses SSD
I mean I guess the C100 uses SDXC cards but if you're not shooting on a Ninja Blade (which uses SSD) then it's basically moot.
I'm weirdly ok with having USB-C. Hopefully it's less finicky than the Thunderbolt ports
What actual professional camera shoots on an SD card?
Cameras like the AMIRA use CFast cards
Blackmagic uses SSD
I mean I guess the C100 uses SDXC cards but if you're not shooting on a Ninja Blade (which uses SSD) then it's basically moot.
I'm weirdly ok with having USB-C. Hopefully it's less finicky than the Thunderbolt ports
Technosteve
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Macbook air please get this also.... ;_;
Guess i'll get a macbook pro i guess
Guess i'll get a macbook pro i guess
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Do we expect these to start shipping in November?
Photographers don't need CF cards.
If they switched the iPhone and iPad to USB-C you'd have everyone yelling "I just switched all my dock connector cables and accessories to lightning!"
ThoseDeafMutes
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Gen 1 SB is good but a bit rough in some ways. You're probably wise to wait for the third one.
Also in terms of videography, if you're already shooting on a fucking ARRI or other heavy duty film equipment you obviously have the budget and space to carry whatever you need. Point of a MBP is maximum portability, like when you're out in remote places and every bit of space matters, you're shooting on small DSLR's, etc. A dongle is just one more thing to remember, one more hassle. That's the only reason people care. Not a dealbreaker at all but people in our industry aren't really seeing what you gain from stripping out a useful port. It's already incredibly light and thin.
I use the A7S. It's perfect for my type of work (touring with musicians etc.).
More convenient than carrying a CF card reader around. I've allllwwayys got Mini USB cables in my gear bag.
Maybe I'm just salty my SD card slot only sometimes works, or perhaps a phobia of losing the cards...
No USB-A ports? Well I'm in the market for a new laptop (I currently have a 2013 Macbook Pro), might be best to see what deals are on the out going models.
I don't mind the lack of a SD slot, but I use USB-A all the time. I would have been happy with just one USB-A port. Plus, there's no escape key?! That's essential when dual booting.
I don't mind the lack of a SD slot, but I use USB-A all the time. I would have been happy with just one USB-A port. Plus, there's no escape key?! That's essential when dual booting.
Costa Kid
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The headphone port?
Well if they did that are we supposed to buy lightning headphones or USB C headphones?
Are people actually surprised the headphone jack is still on the macbook?
I'd be all over that camera if the 4k didn't take so much god damn storage.
Yea if I was more into video I probably would have bought something else. The codec Canon uses is pretty disappointing.
I've been a Canon guy my entire life but I'm looking into the A7r to break into 4k video.
No HDMI or SD? 4 useless USB-C instead? Touch bar no one asked for? No touch screen?
Yeah. Apple waited too long and is now trying to future proof to a future no one wants. This thing is DoA. Mac sales will continue their freefall. How disappointing that Apple is just a phone company now.
I miss Jobs
Jobs would never ever had made the MacBook Pro screen a touchscreen, and totally would have been all about the touch bar. He also probably would have pushed for USB-C to become the new standard, and he hated "non essential" ports (which HDMI and SD Card fall into).
Are you forgetting who Steve Jobs actually was? This laptop 100% could have come from him.
I'm still interested. The specs better blow me away.
I agree he would have pushed for C as well, alongside at the very least a MagSafe port and touch screen instead of a weird half measure keyboard thing that removes the F-keys. He would have totally axed the AUX port from the iPhone, as that benefits the user. Removing half of the things that make a MacBook Pro for the sole reason "cause lol" is not something Jobs would have done.
I believe if Jobs used modern devices like the Surface Book he would have changed his tune about touchscreen laptops. Just like he was wrong about styluses and 3.5 inch screens. The market changes very frequently, Jobs had a keen eye for the future. I'm sure he would have noticed how other laptops have surpassed the MacBook in the last few years and wanted to compete. Especially with the tanking iPad and Mac sales. I believe he would have combined iOS and OS X by now.
I agree he would have pushed for C as well, alongside at the very least a MagSafe port and touch screen instead of a weird half measure keyboard thing that removes the F-keys. He would have totally axed the AUX port from the iPhone, as that benefits the user. Removing half of the things that make a MacBook Pro for the sole reason "cause lol" is not something Jobs would have done.
The touch bar in particular has, since the rumor first came out, struck me as the obvious result of Jobs's claim that touchscreen laptops suck and touch surfaces should be horizontal. Now they have a mini touch screen that lays horizontal and can display whatever buttons they want whenever they want.
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