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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Garani

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Anyone know what exactly that is inisde the vent? Is it just a part of the assembly?



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I am actually more interested in the dust. It appears to move "inbound", so it means that that particular PS5 has been working.
 

" to about one centimeter from the Xbox Series X and PS4 PRO body "

Kind of weird way to measure it, they also dont tell which noise meter they used (I hope it is real one, not a phone app) and other critical things.

they could point the meter to the side wall of the system and it gives out different numbers than air vents, so it should be done from 50cm away about, to get some kind of interesting reading.

Real way would be to do it from 50-100cm away, use tripod for real noise meter that is calibrated before and after, measure 10-15 minutes of LAeq and maybe LAmax but it usually isnt that good parameter as if someone farts, now that is the noisiest moment. And take 3-5 measures per category.

Those screen shots look like some app = this test is just worthless retarded bullshit.

Noise tests that arent done with real and CALIBRATED noise meters are just waste of everybodys time.

Only thing this test tells us is that series x isnt probably as noisy as ps4 pro, but that isnt any kind of achievement as pros are noisy.

source: I have masters degree in environmental noise measurements + done it as a job.
 
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jimbojim

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I'll take the word of those that worked on the project over yours. 🤷‍♂️

Robbie Bach' doesn't sugar coat anything in that book, it goes over all the last minute changes that lead to production issues etc. He didn't spare MS there, I doubt he would alter the timeline to make them look better.

Yeah, i'll take the words of engineer too. They were warned about issues before launch :

In the hurried design process, Microsoft decided late to add a hard disk drive, and then wireless controllers. The hard drive blocked airflow on one side of the machine; the wireless modules had to have enough space to avoid electrical interference. The console shell was poked full of holes to ensure airflow. In the end, the machine was a series of compromises.

In a memo dated August 30 2005, the team reported overheating graphics chips, cracking heat sinks, cosmetic issues with the hard disk and the front of the box, underperforming graphics memory chips from Infineon (now Qimonda), a problem with the DVD drive - and more. At that point, the contract manufacturers were behind schedule and had only built hundreds of units when they were supposed to be making thousands every week.

"There were so many problems, you didn't know what was wrong," says a source. "The [test engineers] didn't have enough time to get up and running." Shutting down production to debug everything properly might have delayed the launch in Europe or Japan.

The warning signs were present even before Microsoft shipped any machines. In August 2005, as Microsoft was gearing up production, an engineer said: "Stop. You have to shut down the line." When production results are really off-kilter, stopping a line and tracing a problem back to its roots is the answer. But in this case, the decision was made to carry on.

Nobody listened to that engineer, apparently because console launches are always hurried affairs. Yields generally start low. As the manufacturers analyse data and tighten controls on each assembly step, they learn how to drive the yields up.

 
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j^aws

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Is this a translated text?

It is referring to a screen refresh rate at 120Hz. I've seen this represented as the game running at 12OFPS, which is referring to framerate, and they are two different things. For example, you can have 60FPS displayed on a 120Hz display, much like 30FPS displayed on a 60Hz display. Likely a misunderstanding and the game is 4K-60, unless there's some hidden unlocked mode or something.
 

Garani

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Is this a translated text?

It is referring to a screen refresh rate at 120Hz. I've seen this represented as the game running at 12OFPS, which is referring to framerate, and they are two different things. For example, you can have 60FPS displayed on a 120Hz display, much like 30FPS displayed on a 60Hz display. Likely a misunderstanding and the game is 4K-60, unless there's some hidden unlocked mode or something.

Debuked.

 

Orky

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Yeah, i'll take the words of engineer too. They were warned about issues before launch :












are we back to XBOX 360 RROD? This was almost 15 YEARS ago.
this is a nextgen thread. Why do people being old shit like this again up?
 
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How i would like AMD RDNA 2 cards had in fact infinity cache and PS5 too. Would be funny listen to these guys and their comparissons. Maybe XSX without that cache is in fact (where we have seen ZERO RT rays running) the 2600 super mini. Just maybe.

If, and I want to emphasize, "IF", there's some "hidden" "trump" inside the PS5 is this.
Among the images Sony showed during the Road To presentation we could see that there's some quantity of "SRAM" inside the IO Complex. Maybe is something like the fabled "Infinite Cache" on RDNA2? Now that it's showing any signs of making a different for the gameplay we already watched.

Cerny's statement was if you had two GPUs with the same tflop capabilities, the one with the higher clock speed but less CU would perform better

Get it right

Get what right? That was exactly what I was saying: "The overclocked 5700 was an exercise to see how true was Cerny's statement that higher clock is better than more CUs".
"More CUs" = the 5700X.

And here is another quote

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He was referring to overall GPU performance.

Don't just barge in here quoting me with nonsense.

While doing RT, wasn't that the point of that whole section?
The performance will be limited to how fast the GPU can finish the GPU calculations. If the RT is bottlenecking the rasterization will not matter much.
 

Ptarmiganx2

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What's worse, to have a wife, or to have a wife who's also a gamer?
I turned my wife into a gamer. Now I buy two copies of every game and two of each gaming system. Hobby is significantly more expensive. Doesn’t hurt she was the former Miss Scandinavia and may have appeared in a certain men’s magazine...I had serious game 20 years ago...
 
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TeKtheSanE

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Great video, but I'm sorry, but what is he on about? The Japanese youtubers weren't even allowed to touch the console, watch their videos. I am sure the system is quiet, but I'm interested in how they would know if the console was cool during operation?

(I'm confident that the system isn't going to overheat, nor will the XsX)
 
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