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[LivingD3AD]

Is it next gen?!

 

[reksveks]

You mean between Mesh Shaders and Primitive Shaders (Including GE)? Honestly both will be utilised heavy for each console, I don’t know how exactly we’ll the difference, but I’m sure both we’ll lead to terrific results. There’s some tech demos from developers making use of Mesh Shaders and they look amazing, likewise the UE5 tech demo was also using PS5’s Primitive Shaders.

Mean between Mesh Shaders and VRS within DX12U as whole and GE. I think both hopefully will used heavily but think PC/Xbox might depend on the number of GPU's with support of DX12_2 . Yeah, that asteroid demo from Nvidia is pretty great example of this, the UE5 demo seems like a great example of it.

 

[azertydu91]

That blue guy is misterx media, I was a fan, I loved reading about insider and the hidden GPU, I think he believes there is another GPU in XSX as well but not in power supply this time.

Comedy gold, guy is an idiot.

Was that the 40 to 50 fps advantages minimum guy ?

 

[user1337]

Can we stop with the 300% zoom images please. I for one don't play with a magnifying glass stuck to my TV.

 

[reksveks]

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Is it next gen?!

For 4K60, it kinda will be and has to be. I think until the consoles have good upscalers, anything targeting 4k60 will have to make sacrifices elsewhere also remember that Assassin Creed typically has a smaller turnaround than other similar sized Open Word RPG's.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

this is great an all, but it would be still better if it just supports VRS. Because now does a dev have to do?
With VRS just optimize it once and use it for both PC and XBOX. Since PS5 doesn’t support it, they would have to develop a customer feature and this will take more time and resource, which will make developing games more expensive. Not sure if devs will even do this or just don’t use that feature at all.

Lol I think Sony removed the standard RDNA 2 implementation of VRS in favour of the Geometry Engine, it’s true that fully programming and pushing the GE may take a year or two but I wouldn’t go as far to say it’s a burden for developers, as Cerny mentioned, it simply presents an opportunity for developers. In fact, if the leaks are accurate, the GE functionality was a feature heavily requested by developers so they could achieve more significant performance optimisations and so that the GPU is not taxed with useless worklods, as was the case with PS4 and PS4 Pro, this was also one of the reasons those consoles ran very hot and loud.

As for making use of VRS on the PS5, I don’t think it will be difficult at all, but we can only speculate so much untill we hear actual stuff from developers.

 

[PSX]

“Listen to Digital Foundry” !!! But Digital Foundry is biased toward Microsoft/Xbox when they something negative about Sony. That’s what the internet told me.

there contract expired since people realized what's going on I guess?

 

[MasterCornholio]

“Listen to Digital Foundry” !!! But Digital Foundry is biased toward Microsoft/Xbox when they something negative about Sony. That’s what the internet told me.

You mean Alex Whatever?

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Is it next gen?!

This is just nitpicking, do you realise you could find examples (in a scene) where assets look bad/poor in almost any game. There are very few games that look perfect from all angles.

 

[Imtjnotu]

“Listen to Digital Foundry” !!! But Digital Foundry is biased toward Microsoft/Xbox when they something negative about Sony. That’s what the internet told me.

Don't get fan boys in here mixed up with actual dev teams

 

[MasterCornholio]

This is just nitpicking, do you realise you could find examples (in a scene) where assets look bad/poor in almost any game. There are very few games that look perfect from all angles.

Is this about the vegetation draw distance?

It's probably going to stay that way throughout the game. It's not like it's dynamic or anything. Openworld games do tend to have this kind of thing. But to be fair at least it's not as short as Halo Infinite. Now that game was pretty bad with the grass popping in a few feet from you.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Is this about the vegetation draw distance?

It's probably going to stay that way throughout the game. It's not like it's dynamic or anything. Openworld games do tend to have this kind of thing. But to be fair at least it's not as short as Halo Infinite. Now that game was pretty bad with the grass popping in a few feet from you.

Again it's ubi. I don't take any ubi game graphics serious regardless of platform

 

[Physiognomonics]

this is great an all, but it would be still better if it just supports VRS. Because now does a dev have to do?
With VRS just optimize it once and use it for both PC and XBOX. Since PS5 doesn’t support it, they would have to develop a customer feature and this will take more time and resource, which will make developing games more expensive. Not sure if devs will even do this or just don’t use that feature at all.

VRS as done by MS is not great at all. It makes everything blurry for small perf gains. Sony have a better strategy IMO. Instead of making 90% of the image blurry (in order to save 5-10% perf), Sony are going to make the most visible part of the image sharper while saving some ressources thanks to their Geometry engine because they won't have to shade some invisible parts of the final image.

Sony's strategy of Variable rate shading is Win-win, while MS's strategy is win-lose.

 

[hemo memo]

Hope they remastered the ending of the trilogy too.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

“Listen to Digital Foundry” !!! But Digital Foundry is biased toward Microsoft/Xbox when they something negative about Sony. That’s what the internet told me.

How many times is this stupid and lazy excuse for a joke/drive-by going to be repeated? Are we going for a record in one month to see how many times the same cringe can be said in different ways?

 

[Doncabesa]

Is it next gen?!

This is the corner of an actual screenshot blown up.

 

[MasterCornholio]

This is the corner of an actual screenshot blown up.

So like the zooms that people do with multiplat comparisons to reveal hard to spot flaws?

I wouldn't really take that picture seriously then.

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Is this about the vegetation draw distance?

It's probably going to stay that way throughout the game. It's not like it's dynamic or anything. Openworld games do tend to have this kind of thing. But to be fair at least it's not as short as Halo Infinite. Now that game was pretty bad with the grass popping in a few feet from you.

That's right. I don't think it's terrible and wouldn't be too noticeable while playing, but it's only an early cross gen game so devs are still learning about the hardware and upgrading their game engines.

 

[vkbest]

Am they never mentioned a patch. The game on the Pro has a mode that runs at an uncapped framerate but with lower resolution and we all assumed that would be how the game would be running at 60 fps.

the game on PS4 pro is 30fps. no unlocked

 

[Doncabesa]

So like the zooms that people do with multiplat comparisons to reveal hard to spot flaws?

I wouldn't really take that picture seriously then.

Yep, just weird attempts to attack something because it was shown on an Xbox system. I'll look for the original tweet. The game looks great for running 4k/60 and it will look great on both platforms.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yep, just weird attempts to attack something because it was shown on an Xbox system. I'll look for the original tweet. The game looks great for running 4k/60 and it will look great on both platforms.

Some people are are saying that it will look bad on the PS5 but we have to wait and see if it's true.

 

[Doncabesa]

Some people are are saying that it will look bad on the PS5 but we have to wait and see if it's true.

Here is the full screenshot and a few more. Game is a looker.

 

[HAL-01]

Why does that guy type his tweets like he’s constantly having a stroke. Has he considered not sounding like a caveman

 

[PSX]

Is it next gen?!

Yes just for 15 feet away


reminds me of the witcher 3 from distance

 

[DeadOblivion78]

Here is the full screenshot and a few more. Game is a looker.

All those blades of grass look like fps killer.

 

[Doncabesa]

All those blades of grass look like fps killer.

What people are playing on series x/s is a solid 60 during gameplay right now. No reason to think it won't be on PS5 either. Next-gen is going to be so good.

 

[LivingD3AD]

This is the corner of an actual screenshot blown up.

Doesn’t matter! Not even close to what we have seen with RDR2 on last gen consoles!
Better draw distance and textures/geometry are at least things I expected to see on a 12tflops next gen machine not being worse compared to last gen games!

 

[Crazychipmunx]

Here is the full screenshot and a few more. Game is a looker.

Game looks great visually, more concerned with gameplay and mechanics

 

[MasterCornholio]

Here is the full screenshot and a few more. Game is a looker.

That's not the PS5 version though if I'm not wrong.

 

[Andodalf]

Doesn’t matter! Not even close to what we have seen with RDR2 on last gen consoles!
Better draw distance and textures/geometry are at least things I expected to see on a 12tflops next gen machine not being worse compared to last gen games!

Not sure if you’re a troll or just don’t see the several draw distance culling ranges here starting about where that bush is. Far closer to the camera that in the AC shot.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

That's not the PS5 version though if I'm not wrong.

We haven't seen any ps5 gameplay for ACV

 

[MasterCornholio]

We haven't seen any ps5 gameplay for ACV

I hope it's just because of the marketing deal but it does make me worry about the PS5 version.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

I hope it's just because of the marketing deal but it does make me worry about the PS5 version.

Most deffinately the marketing deal. Same way we haven't seen gameplay of Call of Duty on XSX

 

[PSX]

Doesn’t matter! Not even close to what we have seen with RDR2 on last gen consoles!
Better draw distance and textures/geometry are at least things I expected to see on a 12tflops next gen machine not being worse compared to last gen games!

 

[Doncabesa]

That's not the PS5 version though if I'm not wrong.

Nope, marketing deal is with Xbox so you'll just see their version until the 12th most likely.

 

[Zadom]

Again it's ubi. I don't take any ubi game graphics serious regardless of platform

I thought Far Cry 5 on PS 4 pro was impressive. Am I in the minority?

 

[Doncabesa]

Watch Dogs: Legion next-gen version just dropped on Series X/S. Should see some videos up soon showing off the RT'ing. Exciting day.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

Just made my first ever thread post, would love to hear your guys opinion

Assassin's Creed should return to the original formula

With the power the new consoles bring to the conversation, I'd love to see assasins creed return to the single city formula. I can only imagine the level of immersion, with every building enterable, extreme density of detail and high levels interactivity with the environment

www.neogaf.com

 

[bitbydeath]

It is a Ubisoft title though, PS5 may have the exact same issue.

 

[M1chl]

Doesn’t matter! Not even close to what we have seen with RDR2 on last gen consoles!
Better draw distance and textures/geometry are at least things I expected to see on a 12tflops next gen machine not being worse compared to last gen games!

How long did they were making this game? I mean Ubisoft is really not there....but Valhalla looks way more fun to actually playing it.

 

[SSfox]

He posted this just like that:

 

[Crazychipmunx]

He posted this just like that:

Probably in relation to politics, not games. Cory isn't afraid to let his opinion known

 

[THEAP99]

Ubisoft games are trash. They can look and run better whatever the fuck, but I don't care. They are garbage and I feel bad for anyone who buys them games full price.

Is it next gen?!

No, this is more like it. Actual good quality games too:

 

[GriffinCorp]

So has Sony talked about any support for Dolby Atmos with UHD Movies? I know their going to have 3D audio for games but I was hoping that Atmos would be coming for UHD supported movies.

 

[iamvin22]

Uh again?

Told yall

 

[Dibils2k]

So like the zooms that people do with multiplat comparisons to reveal hard to spot flaws?

I wouldn't really take that picture seriously then.

its not same thing, zoom is used in comparisons to show resolution/clarity differences because of compression and the screensize you might be watching on

where as here its used with bad intentions

 

[MasterCornholio]

its not same thing, zoom is used in comparisons to show resolution/clarity differences because of compression and the screensize you might be watching on

where as here its used with bad intentions

Well zoom in that other case can be used with bad intentions as well. Neither one is realistic to be honest.

 

[kyliethicc]

So has Sony talked about any support for Dolby Atmos with UHD Movies? I know their going to have 3D audio for games but I was hoping that Atmos would be coming for UHD supported movies.

Not gonna happen

 

[v_iHuGi]

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For 4K60, it kinda will be and has to be. I think until the consoles have good upscalers, anything targeting 4k60 will have to make sacrifices elsewhere also remember that Assassin Creed typically has a smaller turnaround than other similar sized Open Word RPG's.

Nah Demon Souls running at 60 looks like miles better.

Ubisoft quality is pretty low these days, Series X future games at 60FPS will look miles better.

 

[geordiemp]

Told yall

Cmon give us a clue to the surprise you tease