Bo_Hazem
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I think the biggest difference is in PS5's image reconstruction.
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I think the biggest difference is in PS5's image reconstruction.
Mahavastu
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Have they ever done this?
Whenever I looked at the Sony statements, they never mention XBox at all, just as it does not even exist and doesn't matter for them.
ethomaz
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Why should Sony talk about Xbox in their marketing for PS5?
I just find Sony marketed way better PS5 than Xbox the Series since 2019 when Sony started to talk about PS5.
MS focused in computer specs big numbers to marketing it console while Sony focused in experiences, games and news ways of play.
Even the Cerny interviews were about to how reach the better and/or better ways to experience and play games.
It was always about games and gamers.
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TrippleA345
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3liteDragon
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^^
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Insane Metal
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Oh my, another one?
Damn graphics are noticeably better on PS5, wtf! Even on framerate mode:
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MasterCornholio
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Please me Mr Fishy tell me if I should go hide for a while?
ethomaz
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Probably... I don’t know.
It is not just performance difference now but graphical details differences... you won’t believe when see the pics.
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sircaw
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geordiemp
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LivingD3AD
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geordiemp
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You damage controlling now
Nope I was just having fun, your turn for damage control.
VRS, RDNA2 full features on DX12U and still ps5 is more powerful. mmmm
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yewles1
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According to scuttlebutt, there AREN'T any S kits, just a switch to S mode for tweaking.
Bo_Hazem
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Great Hair
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I´m done with Digital Foundry. There is no reason to keep uploading 1080p comparisons. i don´t get that, since the one uploaded yesterday was in 4K. Their Dirt 5 video is so poorly encoded, it´s impossible to watch on a 55" 4K tellie.
Is it still encoding? on YT side?
looks like its YT fault.
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LivingD3AD
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Huge difference in resolution and texture
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3liteDragon
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Wait is that why we’ve been seeing those little artifacts when zooming in on a checkerboard rendered image? If the hardware’s faster than the PS4 Pro when it comes to outputting a 4K image every frame, you wouldn’t see artifacts would you?
I’m just trying to understand the difference between temporal upsampling and checkerboarded rendering here, cause with CB rendering, DF were able to tell what the native resolution was in certain instances (Ghost of Tsushima 2018 E3 demo). But with the UE5 demo, the output was always 4K even though it was natively rendering at 1440p most of the time but they said they couldn’t even find any signs of upsampling and that it looks exactly like a native 4K output.
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sircaw
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Man seriously wtf is going on with Microsoft, all that fucking pr, this has been disaster after disaster for them.
Their machine is 2 tflops more, imagine being a fan and seeing this after all their bullshit peddling.
I would be livid at Phil spencer, i mean remember that poll a month back with " are you happy with xbox and the job phil spencer is doing?"
Everything is better on the ps5, games, controller, loading, the only thing Microsoft has a edge in is BC.
I think its time to run that Poll again lol.
Their machine is 2 tflops more, imagine being a fan and seeing this after all their bullshit peddling.
I would be livid at Phil spencer, i mean remember that poll a month back with " are you happy with xbox and the job phil spencer is doing?"
Everything is better on the ps5, games, controller, loading, the only thing Microsoft has a edge in is BC.
I think its time to run that Poll again lol.
sircaw
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Scuttlebutt lol, love it
yewles1
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That's it, 9th gen war's over, Sony wins again, pack it in...
carloseduardocd
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Why they didn't show the Xbox FPS in 120fps mode? Only TV hz.
Bo_Hazem
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Wait is that why we’ve been seeing those little artifacts when zooming in on a checkerboard rendered image? If the hardware’s faster than the PS4 Pro when it comes to outputting a 4K image every frame, you wouldn’t see artifacts would you?
I’m just trying to understand the difference between temporal upsampling and checkerboarded rendering here, cause with CB rendering, DF were able to tell what the native resolution was in certain instances (Ghost of Tsushima 2018 E3 demo). But with the UE5 demo, the output was always 4K even though it was natively rendering at 1440p most of the time but they said they couldn’t even find any signs of upsampling and that it looks exactly like a native 4K output.
Yes, I thought first it was checkerboarding being just not good enough, yet again you see the full glory of those graphics and what they are meant to be on PS5 now! That combined with PS5's new image reconstruction will make things pretty hard for DF to count resolution on 1st party games. I see those artifacts in most of PS4 Pro most demanding 1st party games. Now it's crystal clear on PS5! Crazy.
Shio
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One thing i can't understand, please help me. If Object density has been decreased, even by accident, that should mean the console has more power to put towards resolution or FPS right? but as you can all see Object density, resolution AND FPS are all lower than PS5, at the start quick frequently XSX FPS is 5fps lower than PS5, thats not a little. If they fixed this 'bug' and object density became the same level as PS5 then wouldn't the resolution be even lower than PS5 as now the system is under even more load?, unless FPS was deliberately capped and resolution was also capped which is not the case as DRS tries to increase resolution to as much as the system can handle that's why we all get these nice boosts playing old console games on the newer consoles.
3liteDragon
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funking giblet
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The handwringing trying to explain it away as a bug, all the while saying that VRR Is only on Xbox with no mention of the fact it’s coming to PS5.
By-mission
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Full RDNA
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Shio
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it's the TOOLS....
Rea
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Bad fish, it's all coz of Tools Toos twos.
But honestly, now i really think that Ms GDK is really behind the schedule, there is no way this is true power of Xbox series x, they will improve and match PS5 going forward, but it's not like the difference is way bigger on Series X like xbox boys were saying. Xbox fanboys just taking many crows and "L", left and right, up and down, every direction.
HeisenbergFX4
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sircaw
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Bad fish, it's all coz of Tools Toos twos.
But honestly, now i really think that Ms GDK is really behind the schedule, there is no way this is true power of Xbox series x, they will improve and match PS5 going forward, but it's not like the difference is way bigger on Series X like xbox boys were saying. Xbox fanboys just taking many crows and "L", left and right, up and down, every direction.
yer something must be up, there is no way it can be such a massive difference like this, but saying that i remember the dirt interviewer podcast with dealer, he said most of the tools had already been shipped, it was only minor things, these things don't look like minor differences to me. They are Gigantic.
I am beginning to feel sorry for xbox, this is blow after blow, but that's for the fans, Phil spencer and greenbug, dealer,eastwood, timdog and a few on this forum deserve it.
smallpotatosan
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this is hilarious. i'm glad my eyes didn't cheat on me. cuz i did notice that PS5 version looks a lot better for some reason. I didn't want to say it because it will definitely trigger a lot of people. I'm glad DF did this video. but the damage control they trying to do is a new level. The case is closed. PS5 is the best place for multiplats.
Btw, i also found it fishy when the dev said they just need to spend a bit more time optimizing for one console in an interview. Because the question was worded in a way implying ps5 is weaker but the response was very vague. I guess they actually ended up tweaking the xsx and xss. oh, man, it made my day.
edit. fixing some English.
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Shio
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Yes people, twitter and youtube is making the XSX look bad, twitter and youtube stole all the foliage and object details from XSX
BatSu
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Shio
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Yea if object detail was lower on XSX even as a bug then surely the FPS or resolution should have been higher than the PS5, but neither was.
Shio
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To all those people who have to wait till feb/march next year to get their PS5s, bad news, looks like the delay could get even longer as i expect demand to go through the roof now, when people see that even 3rd party is better on PS5
SSfox
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Damn it looks better on PS5 and you don't even need to try hard to notice it
In some places it litterally remind me of Bayonetta PS3 VS XBox 360 (better version) , aka one of the biggest gap in this gen!!
Esppiral
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There is something very wrong with those "Xbox Series X enhanced" games.
Except for the lack of raytracing Whatchdogs looks better on Xbox One X than Xbox Series X.
I took the following pics, and the aliasing and blurrines on the Series X makes no sense.
Xbox One X
Xbox Series X
The Xbox series X, just looks lower resolution and more jaggied than the Xbox One X, it makes no fucking sense.
Except for the lack of raytracing Whatchdogs looks better on Xbox One X than Xbox Series X.
I took the following pics, and the aliasing and blurrines on the Series X makes no sense.
Xbox One X
Xbox Series X
The Xbox series X, just looks lower resolution and more jaggied than the Xbox One X, it makes no fucking sense.
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MistBreeze
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Finally ... hype
Great Hair
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Listen fucking carefully here, if XSX was using V-Sync, the performance would be even worse, and the delta will be larger in favor of PS5: (timestamped)
Overall delta even with Xbox consoles having no V-Sync support and enjoying a festival of tearing:
I wish he had shown those tear-drops on the XSX. Both looked similar, yet he strangely dropped this line that makes no fucking reason. IQ is the same, as with the assets .. and if the XSX has way more tear-drops ... how can it have a better IQ? I don´t get it.
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