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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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FlutterPuffs
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Sebmugi
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I remember that in driveclub the reflection of other cars exists even if no cars have presented in the screen .. but it is difficult to capture because it is a reflection of less good quality .. I have that ..
sorry for the quality of the screens are of old captures ..
here the red car on the top of the wing
here in the door the green car, of elsewhere one recognizes it it lykan
and the on the body of the car even the windows .. in the hood on the left, you can clearly see the front of the car on the right which is nevertheless cut but the reflections are a bit shifted
here the direct reflection on the rim and the body, colors of the car next to ..
and the same for the environment.
sorry for the quality of the screens are of old captures ..
here the red car on the top of the wing
here in the door the green car, of elsewhere one recognizes it it lykan
and the on the body of the car even the windows .. in the hood on the left, you can clearly see the front of the car on the right which is nevertheless cut but the reflections are a bit shifted
here the direct reflection on the rim and the body, colors of the car next to ..
and the same for the environment.
I remember that in driveclub the reflection of other cars exists even if no cars have presented in the screen .. but it is difficult to capture because it is a reflection of less good quality .. I have that ..
sorry for the quality of the screens are of old captures ..
Now this is podracing.
Sebmugi
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Aceofspades
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Polyphony modellers:
PD are in a league of their own. Amazing work
eso76
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Have we started posting PGR4 gifs yet ?
now, this is a 10 HOURS video showing all the cars and i would imagine most tracks in all different conditions.
Shame about the chase cam
https://youtu.be/vbsfOzstQcU
now, this is a 10 HOURS video showing all the cars and i would imagine most tracks in all different conditions.
Shame about the chase cam
https://youtu.be/vbsfOzstQcU
I might not like the balance of effort spent on their photo mode stuff, but no denying those i nteriors in GT are amazing!
I'm trying to find a 18gbps HDMI Matrix so I can get a 4K HDR Monitor for my gaming rig and switch between PS4 Pro / PC / XOX, because with details like that, I can see me not wanting to be viewing these things on a small 1080p SDR monitor..
I'm trying to find a 18gbps HDMI Matrix so I can get a 4K HDR Monitor for my gaming rig and switch between PS4 Pro / PC / XOX, because with details like that, I can see me not wanting to be viewing these things on a small 1080p SDR monitor..
freefornow
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I know im OT, but such great memories. RROD 2 of my 360's while playing this. Probably why I persisted with the 360
Had to keep playing this
ResidentDante
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This video was amazing. What a game PGR4 was! Makes me wanna replay the whole game.
Oh snap. I said this a few posts up.
Kaz is someone people don't understand. There are three subjects in his informative years that has shaped the way Kazunori approaches Gran Turismo:
- Cars. He grew up at a time when cars started to have radical curvy shapes
- he became obsessed with the minute detailing of insects
- he became passionate about photography
All this history is clear to see in Gran Turismo. It's why the cars are second to none, why the lighting is industry leading and why he is at the cutting edge of HDR technology. It also highlights a stark difference between the east and west when it comes to game design.
Personally I think the the sun is a 'fake' object and simply can't be moved across the sky in real-time. It's placed in accordance to the time the game sets pre-race. I haven't seen a video showing shadow creep across the scene yet, which seems to be evident of this type of system. I also think the lighting is completely independent to the sun i.e. the engine can go through a 24 hour cycle by changing the colour of the sky only but it's values light and dark the world accordingly, not the 'fake' sun. I think the sun doesn't need to be there at all.
It's an easy fix to show something that looks believable but actually does very little.
I agree, I would love a bigger diversity of cars in Gran Turismo Sport. The Premium models in Gran Turismo 5 are still, in my view, high-end content but I guess they don't have all the features the new cars models have so they couldn't use them. Lets not forget the backlash from gamers when they did include old car models (so, in a way, again, we have ourselves to blame, along with damagegate).
They'll come eventually.
One of my all-time favorite racers are PGR 3 and PGR 4. Incredible games.
ResidentDante
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How would PGR3 be now? Is it very alike PGR4, new locations etc?
TheAdmiester
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From what I can tell it does, but Forza's paints seem to diffuse more than you'd expect so it's faint and harder to tell. Chrome was just the easiest example to show the reflection spots.
eso76
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Pgr3 didn't have weather, Tod, bikes, was sub 720p with no AA and 5/6 locations missing compared to pgr4.
But it had Tokio and Las Vegas during the day (had to be removed from pgr4 because they couldn't fit all the textures in a DVD). Aside from that (which is the reason why I kept a copy) PGR4 had all the content from PGR3 in much better shape and then some, so it became redundant.
Yeah I'm pretty sure shadows on the track never change regardless of where the sun is. I've seen Prague at noon and dusk and I'm pretty sure shadows were always in the same place. Not only they don't creep across the scene in real time, I doubt they even baked them in different positions.
Polyphony modellers:
That is some amazing work. Where are these taken?
I didn't mean to use last gen models, even though let's not pretend that using the premium models from last gen would be the same as using PS2 models in GT5.
thelastword
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You know what, there is a lot of hypocrisy in this post, it's baffling really....Not only are you thread whining, but I find people who complain about threads are usually persons where their opinion is not the popular one....Do you want a thread where people just agree with you or pat you on the back?
Here you are praising dumb, and that's great at least, but the hypocrisy lies in the fact that he posted the pics showing Forza's shortcomings in terms of foliage, the other pics doing that were proper side to side comparisons with Forza 4 as well. Nothing was cherry picked, it's really how the foliage and reflections and car models look against Forza 4....
Where were you when DC was being ridiculed with the crappy Jpeg of the yellow lambo? I didn't see you talking against it and saying people are cherry picking and yet that happened a couple pages back....The worse thing are the posters who try to pretend they have no axe to grind, that they are neutral, when it's clear what their biases are. You had no problems with this thread when DC was being blasted with that Lambo pic, but now you have a problem with the thread when most people are seeing the quality of work and ATD that went into GTS....and the lack thereof in F7 in many respects.
You have a problem with the thread, yet, you can't stay away or post in cumbaya threads of your choosing. instead, you have to come into this one and complain about it...because people have different views obviously. You hate the thread, but yet you won't leave it well alone....What type of symptom is this???
ResidentDante
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I see, I might skip it then! Looks like I had to be there before PGR4 was released to enjoy the most! Thanks for the info though.
Sorry, I just had to.
Not that I disagree with some of your post. Anyway, just a couple of days till GTS demo and this thread will be packed with amazing screenshots. Cant wait.
JackAubrey
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I wish we could play PGR4 on Xbox One so the GTS cheerleaders can tell us how shit it is.
-_- okay
What ?
BigLee74
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Don't be confused. It's really really simple.
Some folk just like to rag on certain games because it's not their game. They won't admit anything about it is nice, and refuse to respond to evidence that obviously counters any stupid claim they make about the game they don't like. These are people that contribute nothing constructive to the thread.
Some folk like to rag on certain games, but can still be positive about some things it may do nice. They still have an obvious bias (intentionally breaking lod in photo mode with big zooms etc to create some deliberately bad shots), but at least they are a little more open minded about it in general.
Ill leave you to work out what categories the people concerned fall into.
TheAdmiester
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Just so you know, you're replying to the #1 main offender of everything in this quote.
Psycho_Mantis
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Tell us how you really feel.
A picture from a YouTube video is not a way to do a proper comparison.
You're right, that is one of the worst things, so why do you keep doing it?
Now this shit needs to stop. PD was given the most amount of time to work on the least amount of content with the three main games being discussed in this thread, so there will be differences. I enjoy discussing the strengths and weaknesses for each of the games but shitting on any of the studios as if they all don't strive for the highest quality possible shouldn't be allowed.
The GTS car list is out. Unfortunately, PD's list of 162 cars includes racing versions. By my count, there are only 81 car body styles in the game.
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/10/05/all-162-cars-gran-turismo-sport/
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/10/05/all-162-cars-gran-turismo-sport/
D'ultimate
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Article says 86 car body styles but still. Damn.
They will all be looking great as hell though. Gotta love it.
Wow, that is worse than I expected.
TheAdmiester
Member
Ouch, that's the weakest car list I've seen in a while.
Article says 86 car body styles but still. Damn.
They will all be looking great as hell though. Gotta love it.
They already announced DLC for tracks and cars. Some people even hope it will be like DC but this is speculation at this point.
AbandonedTrolley
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Yeah they've said a steady stream, if they want me to pay £20-25 for a years worth of monthly updates similar to DRIVECLUB then they can have my money.
Self_Destructive
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$80 CAD for 162 cars and 86 car body styles is a tough sell.. especially with a mostly MP focus and few tracks.
ResidentDante
Member
86? It clearly says 290 cars:
and two player splitscreen!!!
Oh wait.
and two player splitscreen!!!
Oh wait.
Indeed we are seeing that quality.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
A 458 GT3 is different to a 458 road car lol. One must take some logical leaps to say they are the same.
Until I see otherwise that's the only reasonable theory. Regardless it's a far-cry from real-time or dynamic. A real shame considering Forza Motorsport 7 could have been a fully featured XBOX ONE X title. It was a chance to make it really stand-out.
Oh...you mean just making more quicker at a lower quality to bump up the numbers.
I still wouldn't mind the Premium Gran Turismo 5 cars in Gran Turismo Sport. They are still really high quality (they could use the photodiode models) even though they may not have all the modelling features of the new generation.
Considering the scope of Gran Turismo Sport I can't see circuit's being charged for.
Its just a variation of the same car.
AbandonedTrolley
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I really feel the brand will carry it, people want a GT game on the PS4 it looks great and plays well (going by the BETA I tried) It does seem thin on the ground, but hopefully they will give a roadmap for DLC before or shortly after launch.
ResidentDante
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One could lock off some championships with tracks that are only DLC. But like many online shooters, doing so often locks away quite a few players. The most money will go into people wanting to buy specific cars they like. Would be really good if the tracks are free, or have a very low entry fee to get people to drive them online.
Only thing similar with most FIA GT race cars and their production counterparts is that they share similar body panel designs... but mechanically they are totally different.
Yes, but what people ask for is a wider variety of models, not variations of the same model (even if they are mechanically different).
sems4arsenal
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Is it? it's a wider, more aero advanced, and mechanically different car with a stripped interior.
GT3 cars are also present in every other racing game.
Weren't you in the comparison thread talking about how terrible how fanboyish some of the posters were? I agreed with you in that thread but now we have this. Interesting.
D'ultimate
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but this is the thread for that, isn't it?
Sorry it was the GT, F7 comparison thread.
It's amazing how smoothly this game runs due to its "insane amount" of motion blur. I still have my copy to this day too. I remember some time ago when I decided to play it, and as I started a race I was thinking "it didn't aged well", but five minutes latter I was like "DAMN, THIS GAME IS BEAUTIFUL!!!"
This has to be one of the more ignorant posts in the entire thread
(no offense, just comes across as someone that knows very little about what they are talking about)
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