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NHL January 2013 |OT| - "Double-B to Double-M" The Milbury Leafs Era Begins NOW
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BigJonsson
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The Score ‏@theScore
Red Wings forward Pavel Datsyuk has reportedly been granted permission to play in the KHL All-Star game on Sunday. http://thesco.re/WAt8s8
lulz if he gets hurt
Red Wings forward Pavel Datsyuk has reportedly been granted permission to play in the KHL All-Star game on Sunday. http://thesco.re/WAt8s8
lulz if he gets hurt
Buba Big Guns
Banned
What did he say?
Wendel Clark
Member
LOL canuck fans think they're going to get Gardsy again
These last few pages have been fun to read.
If this means a reasonable return for luongo, I will laugh so much more than I already am. I was fully expecting something crappy like Bozak&2nd.
TEAM NEW HOPE.
EDIT: I'd be happy with Kadri, for starters.
If this means a reasonable return for luongo, I will laugh so much more than I already am. I was fully expecting something crappy like Bozak&2nd.
TEAM NEW HOPE.
EDIT: I'd be happy with Kadri, for starters.
Nonuts had a plan, goddamnit.
But but but
No is did the phaneuf trade!
And now you realize why they were doing 4 divisions... And making the playoffs have 20 teams
I think it went from "not happening" to "unlikely". You have to at least think part of this move was with ownership pushing for the Luongo deal.
Nonis also loves him some Luongo.
Still, though, I don't think Gardiner will be involved. I think the deal will be better for the Canucks with Nonis at the helm instead of Burke, but I'll still be surprised if it's Gardiner.
...and he did the Luongo trade...Which is why I say he's average. He's capable of making good deals. He's not a bad GM, but he's not a good GM either.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Damien Cox is leading the Burke Defense Force on twitter. Apparently Burke was fired for making brash promises, and not this:
I think it will mean he will be willing to trade players like lupul, phaneuf, macarthur or JVR for luongo
Burke shies away from trading guys he likes... Which isn't a good trait
I don't fault Burke for the record
At least for the first 3 years... JFJ royally fucked our team. Wilson should have been gone before last season and that was his fault
Lupul and JVR would be nice fits, but Gillis could've had JVR by dealing Luongo for Schenn when offered and then Schenn for JVR.
No shit.
It doesn't always work out like that though. Burke was hesitant to even trade schenn
Seriously. Gardiner is about as untouchable as it gets. Rielly being traded is more likely than gardiner. Leafs would probably part with Kessel before gardiner
so he's going to advise the Leafs to "get fucked" then?
seemed odd he was being moved within the organization
I hear he was happy.
So nothing will change from his years as GM of the Leafs.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Yep, that's the messaging from the pro-Burke camp: JFJ was so bad that Burke was destined to fail from the start. The problem with that excuse, specifically, is that it completely ignores the awful personnel decisions Burke made (see Socreges' earlier response), and the fact that the team - standings wise, which is what counts - regressed and accumulated fewer points than it did in 2008/09.
We have to remember that the coach isn't responsible for building a team. And while I agree that Wilson was never going to work out in Toronto, I have seen nothing to suggest that Carlyle will.
KingHenrik30
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This luongo trade situation is unreal. Just hope open both GMs are about talking about it.
Can you identify a single Canucks fan here that thinks we're getting Gardiner?
Gardiner is a flower in a pile of dirt. He's untouchable. But we'll have some fun for now.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
So Loungo has ended 2 GM tenures his career lol.
But our prospect stock went from shit to pretty good, eventually that will pay dividends...
People have no patience and will trade our future to have a chance at the cup and then bury us in the ground again.
At least nonis respects the Burke angle and lives by it. You can't sacrifice the farm for one chance.
People have a hard time remembering our team and prospects from JFJ era
Outside of sundin, who did we have? Darcy tucker? Chad kilger? Jason Blake? Ugh antropov? Ponikarovsky? We had a first line, at least.
Our prospects? Outside of Alex steen... Uh.... Well... Jiri trusty? John pohl? (He couldn't even skate ffs)
It was sad... Embarrassing.... Even though I was saying they'd make the playoffs in all those years (and rightfully chastised on GAF for it)... Hindsight is helpful here. Marlies were fucking trash, our leafs were trash.
Have I missed something or are Seguin and Hamilton not chowing down at the Bruins' trough right now?
Meh. Kessel is a god. But it will suck if we can't re-sign him
My thoughts after listening to a lot of radio (especially Bob Mckenzie):
The timing of the firing was bad, but Burke deserved to be fired. He did a terrible job.
I have no worries anymore about the motivation behind the firing. Mckenzie was musing that the firing was motivated by a mixture of performance and personality. The owners did not like Burke's bombastic attitude. Nothing wrong with that.
So I'm not upset anymore at the thought of meddling ownership forcing a Luongo trade. Nonis will not trade Gardiner or other highly valuable assets for Luongo.
Any other Leaf fans feeling pretty optimistic like I am right now? I know CCF just made a good point about Nonis wasting 2nds and 3rds on the Canucks but I believe he'll be a little more patient, at least a damn sight more patient than Burke (Mr. 2 1sts for Kessel).
The timing of the firing was bad, but Burke deserved to be fired. He did a terrible job.
I have no worries anymore about the motivation behind the firing. Mckenzie was musing that the firing was motivated by a mixture of performance and personality. The owners did not like Burke's bombastic attitude. Nothing wrong with that.
So I'm not upset anymore at the thought of meddling ownership forcing a Luongo trade. Nonis will not trade Gardiner or other highly valuable assets for Luongo.
Any other Leaf fans feeling pretty optimistic like I am right now? I know CCF just made a good point about Nonis wasting 2nds and 3rds on the Canucks but I believe he'll be a little more patient, at least a damn sight more patient than Burke (Mr. 2 1sts for Kessel).
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Gardiner has a concussion. That likely means he's not going anywhere.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
"@GregThomsonNHL: Don't mistake this as a rumor, but with all the craziness in Toronto don't be surprised if Luongo's a Leaf by this weekend and Kessel is out"
MILBURY ERA!
Kessel for Lou? The meltdowns would be glorious!
I secretly hope Lou denies the trade, just for trolling purposes.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Dallas Stars marketing is in full swing. Feels good man.
Modano joining the organization sometime next week as well. Feels real good.
Modano joining the organization sometime next week as well. Feels real good.
Performance and personality do not explain the timing. There IS something else.
TemplaerDude
Member
What? It's a perfectly satisfactory explanation. Why does there always have to be a conspiracy with anything the Leafs do or don't do?
Burke isn't a great GM. So incredibly fucking overrated. He was okay in Vancouver and pretty poor in Toronto. In between, in Anaheim, he got handed most of the pieces to win his Stanley Cup.
If they were going to fire him, why wait until now? It is very strange timing.
nah
he's great at everything but goalies
it's like his fucking kryptonite
CLOUTIERRRRRRRRRR
It explains why Burke was fired but he's saying it doesn't explain why they choose to fire him today with such poor timing, so long after the end of last season and so soon before the start of this season.
I personally don't care anymore about the timing, so long as I'm satisfied no one is forcing a Luongo trade.
BigJonsson
Member
So the leafs are getting Luongo and trading lesser to anaheim? Lol, love hockey being back
Coldnoodle
Member
If Kessel is traded for Luongo, I'm done.
That's beyond Cleveland Browns bad.
That's beyond Cleveland Browns bad.
"@GregThomsonNHL: Don't mistake this as a rumor, but with all the craziness in Toronto don't be surprised if Luongo's a Leaf by this weekend and Kessel is out"
MILBURY ERA!
"Please don't mistake this as a rumour but don't be surprised if [insert sensational and unlikely scenario] occurs."
TemplaerDude
Member
I doubt there is some huge mystery behind the timing of this. He probably laid out his plan for the season to the board and they decided they didn't like it and had had enough of Burke being Burke and canned him.
Won't happen. I refuse to believe in any kind of hockey universe that's possible. It would have to be two separate trades.
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