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NHL March 2013 |OT| Black History Forever

Montresor

Member
BTW, my opinion on Carlyle so far is that he's great. He's doing the best that he can to implement a structured defensive system into the Maple Leafs, something I very much appreciate. However, it is abundantly clear that the personnel he is working with is lacking. The Leafs need a proper #2 d-man to play alongside Phaneuf, and the Leafs don't have that d-man anywhere in their system. And the goalies are just too inconsistent. Despite this, Carlyle has done pretty well with the squad he's been given.

My only gripe so far has been his insistence on using three AHL defensemen with the big club. I get that these kids have impressed (Holzer, Kostka, Fraser) but why do ALL THREE have to play every god damn game. Fraser is the only lock on this club IMO. One of the other two needed to sit a loooong time ago for Gardiner or Liles. Carlyle did this against Pittsburgh but he waited way too long for my taste.
 

Marvie_3

Banned
Oh dude it's Aus hockey so it's shit in comparison to everywhere else. But BUT... All the players are Aus and they all looked fantastic. So win win no matter what really.

Just would've been embarrassing if our national squad was beat by prospects...

I dunno man. I enjoy watching streams of AIHL games at 4am. I've seen much worse hockey.
 

Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
At least none of those places are Buffalo. Lupul's good old tweet

"Is there any windowless rooms? #buffalo yfrog.com/esoreklj"

I hope the Leafs play in Buffalo one more time this season. His hate against Buffalo is hilarious.

edit: Dreams answered, they play in Buffalo on Thursday!
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
Thank you. :) Some smarts up in here.




LOL.. that's pretty funny since people can't seem to move here fast enough. Half the population is not from Calgary. And you wonder why there is so much hate towards Van.. lol You guys are worse than Toronto for being full of your selves. Seattle shits all over Vancouver.

Ugh.. can't believe I'm being dragged into this. Must be the booze and lack of sleep.

This!
 

Spl1nter

Member
Rielly is joining the Marlies on Wednesday as his whl season is over soon. Should be interesting to see him on the pro level with a team that isnt the worst in the league. I actually think a partial reason Gardiner has remained with the Marlies is to help them make the playoffs.
 
Dastardly and Heretic, this subject may have been discussed before

yesss?..

but I want your opinion on Carlyle.

HA HA... ENJOY SUCKERS!

There is a part of me that is increasingly jealous of the Ducks and their phenomenal record, mostly because this record has arisen from Carlyle's firing and Boudreau's hiring.

What has allowed the Ducks to make such a big improvement over last year? Bottom feeder to one of the league's best?

Well... *cough*... basically... All we do is ween ween, and it seems to be fact of, no matter what.

BUT HOW IS THAT RELEVANT?

Well by now you've figured out that it's Bruce Boudreaus Ducks.

BUT WAIT, HE DELIVERED NO CUPS TO WASHINGTON AND CARLYLE DID, HOW IS THAT SO?

Because Bob Murray didn't deliver a cup winning schematic that had chemistry with Brian Burkes plan of how a SC championship should look to Boudreau. He said "Here's my roster" then giggled and went on holidays...

BUT WHA WHA WHAAAAAA?

Yes, you heard right, just because you have Brian Burke doesn't make you a championship team. You need a chemistry that's betweeen the GM and the Coach to know not only what your teams system and plan are, but how they deal with each situation they come across. Barstool Bob gave Boudreau a shit load of talent and said "make it work".

So what happens if the on-ice product doesn't work?

Well it isn't the coaches fault is it? It's the GMs fault that he didn't deliver enough talent.

But it's simple... we kill the Batman Betman the COACH!

Yeah, you keep doing that... See how it works out for you.

Orrr... That's the obvious signal for a team to rebuild or retool. But here we are in 2013 where we have:

- Viktor Fasth (a pure Barstool Bob signing because he kept his eye on the SEL)
- Bobby Ryan (a Brian Burke product that was in the doghouse under Carlyle yet flourishes under Boudreau)
- Teemu Selanne
- Saku Koivu
- Ryan Getzlaf (freshly signed)
- Corey Perry (freshly trade bait but contract year - how versatile!)
- Francois Beauchemin (... Oh... can you please remind me how Jake Gardiner is doing?)

Also, re: the Lupul and Beauchemin trade. It burns me to see him to do so well. I wanted him to succeed in Toronto but I guess he got fucked by Wilson. He was horrible in Toronto. Hopefully when Lupul returns he can start ripping it up with Kadri and thus usher in a new set of "fleeced" messages from Leafs fans. ;)

Ah that's right, thank you, thank you, no really... Thank YOU!

As well as...

- Cam Fowler (fell in Barstool Bobs lap due to draft luck)
- Jonas Hiller (Wow, it took this long to get to him? Really?)
- Kyle Palmieri (Hey Sophomore Stud!)
- Sheldon Souray
- Luca Sbisa (A product of a trade of Pronger, who has now flourished and is producing FANTASTICALLY)

And, oh boy this is embarrassing... We haven't even reached our bottom pairings and prospects yet...

Haha, you mean a bunch of scrubs I've never heard of!

True, you haven't. So go look up the stats for...

- Daniel Winnik (Barstool Bob signing)
- Nick Bonino (A fantastic prospect that was a throw-in with an SJ trade)
- Emerson Etem (our orginal first round draft pick, that Barstool Bob managed to pick up because nobody wanted Fowler or him)

And you'll see exactly where a team should deliver where it matters, when it matters.

And "Toronto will receive a fourth-round pick if Joffrey Lupul is on the roster for less than 40 games in the 2012–13 season with the club. If he plays 40 or more, Toronto will receive a sixth-round pick." I hope this is true.

Oh yeah, that guy. Yeah I guess he might finally be able to certify you a playoff spot. Finally.

But if you'll excuse us, we'll be over here

1. The Anaheim Ducks will finish the season with the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference

Chicago's run to start the season was amazing, but the Blackhawks won a lot of close games and they are going to miss Patrick Sharp for the next couple of weeks. Anaheim has had pretty solid luck with injuries, but the Ducks are clearly deeper than they've been the past couple of years.

The Ducks have enough cap space in 2013-14 to accommodate Perry and Ryan Getzlaf with $8 million-plus cap hits and Bobby Ryan at $5.1 million, and Anaheim has a chance to win the Cup this season.
 
But wait, I didn't even tell you about Cogliano!

Come back Mont, there's so much that's so great about the 2013 Anaheim Ducks that you simply must hear about!

MOOOOnnnnntttttttttttt !!
 
Ducks upset in round 1.

<3

Well I guess we could ask Teemu Selanne about how he felt exiting in round 1 against the Nashville Predators... Teemu, would you let that happen again?

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I guess considering how the Preds are nowadays, we really don't have to worry about that particular scenario... Or the Red Wings... Or the Sharks...
 

zedge

Member
The thing for me,and maybe you can further confirm is that there are more jobs there and they're better paying and easier to get. Toronto is brutal as hell right now. And I'm not just referring to the Leafs.
Lots of jobs, and well paying too. I believe its the lowest unemployment rate in the country still. And it's not just oil, it's diversified quite a bit.

I did not know dastardly was in Australia. :cool
 

RC

Banned
Lots of jobs, and well paying too. I believe its the lowest unemployment rate in the country still. And it's not just oil, it's diversified quite a bit.

I'm being laid off next week. I have no viable skills nor relevant education, will there be a job even for me?
 

Cactus

Banned
BTW, my opinion on Carlyle so far is that he's great. He's doing the best that he can to implement a structured defensive system into the Maple Leafs, something I very much appreciate. However, it is abundantly clear that the personnel he is working with is lacking. The Leafs need a proper #2 d-man to play alongside Phaneuf, and the Leafs don't have that d-man anywhere in their system. And the goalies are just too inconsistent. Despite this, Carlyle has done pretty well with the squad he's been given.

My only gripe so far has been his insistence on using three AHL defensemen with the big club. I get that these kids have impressed (Holzer, Kostka, Fraser) but why do ALL THREE have to play every god damn game. Fraser is the only lock on this club IMO. One of the other two needed to sit a loooong time ago for Gardiner or Liles. Carlyle did this against Pittsburgh but he waited way too long for my taste.

I mostly agree with you. The systems have been fine, and I think the goalies have been good too.

The lineup choices are baffling, though. I understand that a coach has his favourites, but under no circumstances should Liles and Gardiner be sitting in favour of Kostka and Holzer. The grace period should have been over a long time ago, but they're still getting big minutes against tough comp and making a tonne of mistakes as a result.

I also dislike how Grabovski is being handled. Carlyle's decision to give him primarily D-zone starts, and extremely difficult defensive minutes was working out very well. Goals against were way down and the team was winning. It's understandable that his offensive game would suffer, but that is purely a result of the shutdown role he was given. For some reason, Carlyle decided he was unhappy with Grabovski and started playing him less. That resulted in more minutes for the Bozak line against other top lines, and has led to the first prolonged losing streak of the season.

He should be using Komarov-McClement-Kulemin as a shutdown line, but his insistence on inserting Orr and McLaren into the lineup and playing them 2-4 minutes a game essentially makes that an impossibility since Carlyle has only three reliable lines.
 
The main trouble with Carlyle is he still thinks 'energy' lines are a thing. Putting Brown and Orr into a line doesn't energise your top two lines. You need two-way, shutdown, offensive backchecking etc

So, basically, unless you have 2007 Moen-Pahlsson-R.Neidermayer then you don't have a "checking" line. So make do with who is the most suitable replacement.
 

zedge

Member
I'm being laid off next week. I have no viable skills nor relevant education, will there be a job even for me?
Easily. If you can't find a job your not trying. Now if you have no skills then I can't guarantee a big fat pay cheque. ;-)
I think you're fibbing though.
 
Jovo-cap'n returns tonight. Huberdeau was back at practice after attening a freind's mom funeral. Word is he was also at a Moose Jaw game last night, could've be chattin up future Cats pick MacKinnon/ Drouin. Looks like Clemmer rides again.



GG free win Isles.
 

RC

Banned
Easily. If you can't find a job your not trying. Now if you have no skills then I can't guarantee a big fat pay cheque. ;-)
I think you're fibbing though.

I wish I was. My only options at this point are to go back to school or be stuck with a low paying demeaning job.
 

zedge

Member
I wish I was. My only options at this point are to go back to school or be stuck with a low paying demeaning job.
Hmm that's tough. If you can get a loan or grant that's a better option. Maybe work part time too. Although so many people get very entry level jobs with little secondary education and work their way up the ladder. Sometimes good work ethic and good attitude > smarts. I know where I work more often then not, depending on the position, whether the person is a good fit, or shows initiative goes farther than technical skills. Those can be taught. The big thing right now seems to be Bas. (business analysts) So many companies with big projects always on the go with all the growth. Things are always changing and quickly. Depends what your interested in. It or desktop stuff is huge too.
 

Kuro Madoushi

Unconfirmed Member
Easily. If you can't find a job your not trying. Now if you have no skills then I can't guarantee a big fat pay cheque. ;-)
I think you're fibbing though.

yup....

Cousin from Edm comes to visit and just says, "well, why don't you just apply for jobs then? It's easy. Just go to Dell or IBM and apply"

...

I wanted to throw my stacks of resumes and endless applications at him.

Dude made 50K selling shit at Futureshop.

A friend of mine works for an oil company, and he tells me there are low level jobs in Calgary that start at 40K with lots of potential.

I'm making less than 40 and deal with fucking legacy systems in a quite specialised role. I've been told I'm one step below a Business Analyst.

WTF....
 

zedge

Member
yup....

Cousin from Edm comes to visit and just says, "well, why don't you just apply for jobs then? It's easy. Just go to Dell or IBM and apply"

...

I wanted to throw my stacks of resumes and endless applications at him.

Dude made 50K selling shit at Futureshop.

A friend of mine works for an oil company, and he tells me there are low level jobs in Calgary that start at 40K with lots of potential.

I'm making less than 40 and deal with fucking legacy systems in a quite specialised role. I've been told I'm one step below a Business Analyst.

WTF....
Yep. Many entry level positions pay quite well. Lots of demand.
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
This game feels like marching to the gallows...

Let's get some points out of this!




Yes! Torts is finally moving Nash away from Richards and putting him back with Stepan where he was thriving. Return of last year's top line of Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik, too.
 
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