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NHL March 2013 |OT| Black History Forever
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End? Halfway point.
KernelPanic
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It won't be as bad at Parise/Suter/Kovalchuk since the new CBA limits those kind of deals.
What's the story behind this? I live in L.A. County which is crime central. To me, it seems like Anaheim is the better of the two and not deserving of the name.
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I was looking at Vancouver's situation before.. it said their cap space was $3.9 million or so.. is capgeek missing something?
Or are you considering a Luongo trade or compliance buyouts as well?
ZeroGravity
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You wouldn't give that much for Stamkos?
Stamkos is a LOT younger/better than Getzlaf. Of course we'd pay him that.
Yea I would, forgot about him. But outside of those two I don't see a player in the league worth that kind of commitment.
Seems like if you want Perry, Kadri goes period, plus your first and a prospect.
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Plug-Kesler-Booth
Hansen-Plug-Kassian
Plug-Plug-Plug
Bieksa-Hamhuis
Edler-Garrison
Ballard-Plug
Schneider
Luongo.
We have 3.9mio to spend on 6 roster players... And then some. Tanev, Weise and Schroeder should be somewhat cheap, the rest? Uhoh.
Raymond?
Higgins?
Lapierre?
Not to mention we actually NEED an extra 3rd line C...
I'm almost certain Ducks will get a centre plus picks and/or prospects for Perry.
Think Bozak + Prospect + 2nd rounder or Plekanec + Prospect + 2nd rounder
I was looking at capgeek's salary cap info for next season, says 9.8.... No luongo trade or buyouts considered.
Edit: nvm was wrong, it's 3.9fml
Flyers are the only team with less space, but they have 19 players signed and Briere and his 6.5m hit will either be traded or bought out.
Philly has 2.3mio left, but you guys at least have 19 Players signed... We have 3.9 left with 14 signed
There is no way they'd get that much for a guy who's unrestricted after this season.
That is more reasonable. They could probably get either a better roster player or a B level prospect I'd feel.
You'd give up "Plekanec + Prospect + 2nd rounder" for Perry? LOL wut? We're good but we're not winning the cup, with or without Perry. Why would you give up that much of the future for a guy who's going to play with us for 2 months?
1st + blue chip prospect is what I'm expecting, roster player is a random variable.
? When did I say this? Re-read. You're combining two separate statements into one.
yankeehater
Member
Flyers cant improve goaltending, unless they buy Bryz out but there isnt going to be anyone better available, they will try to improve defense but who knows if they will be able to. If they cant fix their defense then the only option is to go all in on offense and try to out score teams.
I figured you were OKing this trade proposal. It won't be cheap to rent him, it won't be worth it. The only way he's worth paying a rental price is if you're on the edge of winning it all.Solo said:
gaming_noob
Member
JVR Stastny Perry
Clowe Kadri Kessel
Sick top 2 lines for 2013-2014.
Clowe Kadri Kessel
Sick top 2 lines for 2013-2014.
Wtf did I just read
Didnt Bobby Mac say that Perry could get 1M-2M in endorsments if he was playing in a big market team like TO or MTL?
I don't think he will ask for 9M or more, probably 8.5 at most, around the same price as Getzlaf. If he does then there aren't many contenders that can fit him under the cap next season.
HfBoards.
I don't think he will ask for 9M or more, probably 8.5 at most, around the same price as Getzlaf. If he does then there aren't many contenders that can fit him under the cap next season.
HfBoards.
Having said that, YES, I'd still probably do that deal.
1. Eller's development makes Pleks less and less of an untouchable. Could roll Eller-Gally-DD-White down the middle next year.
2. Give them a middling prospect like Kristo.
3. We have 3 2nd rounders and could afford to lose one.
And I completely disagree - in this season of all seasons, Habs have a shot.
1. Eller's development makes Pleks less and less of an untouchable. Could roll Eller-Gally-DD-White down the middle next year.
2. Give them a middling prospect like Kristo.
3. We have 3 2nd rounders and could afford to lose one.
And I completely disagree - in this season of all seasons, Habs have a shot.
yankeehater
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Manics' wet dream.
Lone_Prodigy
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Philly has 2.3mio left, but you guys at least have 19 Players signed... We have 3.9 left with 14 signed
Buy out
Trade Luongo, bury the contract coming back the other way
Gillis could probably make it work.
But that window looks pretty small.
I think AV gets canned after this season, if not before.
I don't think you can trade Plekanec going into the playoffs this season, as much as I like Eller, that leaves your top 3 centres as Desharnais, Eller, Galchenyuk. I'd be fine with that going into next season when they've all developed a bit more.
BTW, Ryan "Getz" Extension on NHL.com
1. Trading Pleks alone to a team could bring in a great reward, not worth packaging him in with a guy who will walk after this season, and Eller isn't ready to take his place just yet.
2. Kristo is our best forward prospect after Leblanc and Collberg, not giving him up again for a guy who will walk.
3. Those 2nd rounders will be better used to move up in the draft in the first round or to get a roster player who will be here a long time.
We have a chance, but we're not good enough to warrant it and I have difficulty seeing Bergevin mortgaging the teams future for a guy who's not sticking around. If Perry says he'll sign with us that's a different conversation.
Philly has 2.3mio left, but you guys at least have 19 Players signed... We have 3.9 left with 14 signed
With Briere bought out that would really be 17 players signed (cause one of those 19 players is Pronger) and 8.8m in cap space plus $5m which can come off thru LTIR. So the Flyers aren't in bad cap shape for next year. Laughton will come up and play on the 3rd/4th line.
But in summer 2014 they will have Giroux, Couturier, and B Schenn as RFAs, and Matt Read as a UFA. Couturier is trying to help the team by having an awful season which drives his value down.
I dont disagree with you. I also love Pleks. Its just that his trade value is going to shrink every year now due to his age, so if we dont see him as being a player intergral to winning a Cup, we need to move him sooner rather than later.
Basically: either move Pleks this season or let him finish his career in Montreal
Even IF we somehow miraculously get rid of a D-man and luongo's contract (so, an extra 10mio), that means we need to spend 13.9mio on 7 roster players (assuming Lack becomes the backup). Doable, but still bad. We'd need to slot in Alberts as a permanent top6 D (which he isn't) and would need to resign Higgins and Raymond for cheap, in addition to Weise/Schroeder/Tanev. The maybe Sestito or Pinnizotto on the 4th.
It works, but it sucks. And we'll be worse than this season for sure.
I'm not convinced in the slightest about Kristo. Seems to enjoy being a bit of a shithead more than becoming an NHL calibre player. I also think this past season has REALLY hurt Leblanc's development. He's not had a good ride in Hamilton. Collberg hopefully though will be a stud and play on Gally's wing for a decade.
yankeehater
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Damn what a great guy.
Kristo has the best offensive skill set and upside after Collberg. Whatever he does off the ice is whatever, and Leblanc has been dealing with his ankle injury all season. This is like the people who ragged on Patches when he was playing up here and not playing well. These prospects need time to develop into their own.
Don't worry, Heretic - he'll be traded by the deadline, April 3. So you have a maximum of 26 days before the pain (and Perry) will be gone.
There's a big difference between a guy like Pacioretty's development, with his size and skillset, and Leblanc's. Patches had the tools, he just needed to play (hence going back to Hamilton).
Anaheim will dump him wherever they get the best deal. From Perry's perspective, it doesn't matter anyways. Say he ends up in Florida. He only plays ~10 games for them before getting to pick his team.
If he doesn't have a NTC he's getting shipped to the highest bidder period. He wouldn't have a say in this and it doesn't matter to the Ducks if he resigns with the team or not unless him resigning is able to sweeten the pot for them.