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If you can come on a website and physically type about how a small % of people who abuse voice chat make you happy that a game lacks this key feature I'm pretty sure you'd be capable of entering the combination of buttons necessary to enable the mute feature for said person.

It's not just that. I have no problem with voice chat as an options that's easily disabled entirely. But, as I said above, they need to limit it to friend/party lobbies as I, as a person that prefers playing alone, don't want to have the usual experience of the MP sucking if you aren't on a team communicating and working together.

Splatoon is great as the MP is simple and casual, and just feels like a single player game with better and more random AI opponents.

Stuff like CoD sucks if you aren't great at games, don't have tons of time to practice and "git gud" and have no interest in chatting and coordinating with randoms. Thus Splatoon is a great alternative to the gazillion shooters out their focused more on skill, teamwork and communication.

Again, no problem with them adding it and putting it in it's own lobbies. I fully support that as clearly many want it, and that should further pull some of the more hardcore players out of the regular battle modes and make them more enjoyable for us casuals.

 

[Delstius]

^ Yeah, I find it baffling that OP didn't mention that playing these games online does not require a paid subscription in addition to buying the game and the console, because to me it's a huge “PRO”,

To some people it's still considered to be a normal thing though, might be why he didn't mention it.

 

[DanteGhost]

It's quite funny.

Nintendo don't want to add public voice chat for some games. But on the other hand do proper game matching, where you won't get matched against "parties of 5" over and over and over again.

And the other 2 companies don't want to add a simple system-wide option "voice chat mute all" that I select once and be done with it. Nope. Have to "mute all" "mute all" "mute all" every single flipping time. If that's even possible. Otherwise it's "mute" this new player and "mute" that new player. Can't even save the damn option per game. If I remember correctly Uncharted 3 didn't even save the voice chat volume option at all. How hard is it to save a volume option?

If I had to choose between those 2, I go with the former, simply because 99.99% of the time voice chat is entirely useless at least for me personally. If I wanted to get called "gay", I would simply visit youtube comments. At least on youtube I don't actually hear "mature" 12 year olds. *sigh*

What the fuck am I reading? On ps4 if you creat a party, all the games are muted. All of them. You don't even have to use the ingame option to mute the game. Stop spreading lies.

 

[bakeray]

It's not just that. I have no problem with voice chat as an options that's easily disabled entirely. But, as I said above, they need to limit it to friend/party lobbies as I, as a person that prefers playing alone, don't want to have the usual experience of the MP sucking if you aren't on a team communicating and working together.

Splatoon is great as the MP is simple and casual, and just feels like a single player game with better and more random AI opponents.

Stuff like CoD sucks if you aren't great at games, don't have tons of time to practice and "git gud" and have no interest in chatting and coordinating with randoms. Thus Splatoon is a great alternative to the gazillion shooters out their focused more on skill, teamwork and communication.

Again, no problem with them adding it and putting it in it's own lobbies. I fully support that as clearly many want it, and that should further pull some of the more hardcore players out of the regular battle modes and make them more enjoyable for us casuals.

I think a non-voice chat casual playlist would probably be a great alternative to no voice chat at all and would be a great compromise, not just for this game but for all online games. Maybe make this the only playlist available if certain parental controls are enabled as well. I don't think omitting voice chat is a good solution at all, it just greatly limits the potential of a game, it's strategic depth, and makes the game die quicker, imo.

 

[Wiseblade]

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on Wii U had voice chat and I actively avoided using it. Often I'd go so far as to mute people who did. I definitely agree that Splatoon needs more robust text chat options and a map ping system, similar to the on in MH4U. But I NEVER want to hear the voice of people in game.

Most of your other points are spot on though. Splatoon desperately needs a replaye function and Smash needs a stage select.

 

[AndrewPL]

Are you being serious?

Yes, it is a game targeted at 8 year olds via Nintendo marketing....

 

[Shig]

If you flip a coin 6 times how likely is it that is it heads every time? About 1%. Four times is 6.25%.

Now with three maps per rotation (which the screen implies will eventually happen) the chances change dramatically so that the same map 4 times in a row is about 1%.

The odds of throwing a heads is 50% no matter how much you've thrown the coin. A third outcome will help, but you've still got a 33% chance at a repeat.

The alternative would be treating each room as a table deck of cards where each card is a stage (one card per stage) and you deal them one at a time. This means each stage is played once until reshuffle at which you'll have some occasions of two stages in a row (it being the last card of the previous deck and the first card of the current one).

The alternative is not to shuffle. 1, 2, 3, 1 , 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. You'll never have a repeat.

 

[Junahu]

The odds of throwing a heads is 50% no matter how much you've thrown the coin. A third outcome will help, but you've still got a 33% chance at a repeat.

Well, yeah. But we're not looking at a single occurance in isolation. We're looking at the odds of two events landing on the same outcome, so we multiply the probabilities together. Throwing two heads in a row isn't 50%, it's 25%.

Edit: Flipping the same outcome (heads or tails) twice in a row would be 50%. But flipping the same thing thrice in a row would be 25%.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

In my Splatoon sessions I seem to have people from all over the world in my team.

Based on this I predict that voice chat would really useless.

 

[Boombloxer]

Congrats on missing the entire point of the thread.

OP should've said "three of the best" instead to avoid idiotic replies like these.

Or even better, three of the best I've experience on Nintendo platform and invited discussion.

If the premise itself is flimsy as fuck, then the discussion around it starts off worse.
No different than if I stated: "God of War is the greatest action game of all time, let's examine why." There would at least 30 replies on the first page saying why they disagreed.

 

[KazenY2J]

Yes, it is a game targeted at 8 year olds via Nintendo marketing....

You obviously never heard of the mute option then.
But keep defending this.

 

[Cipherr]

Mario Kart 8 is the most fun I have had in an online game this gen by far. But I cant help you with Smash and I havent played Splatoon yet.

I wouldnt mind if the option for voice chat was added to all of their games, but I dont miss it in something like mario kart at all. Dear god the sodium would be surreal. So add and option and let those who dont want it to switch it off lol.

The language barriers is another thing. I dont know about Splatoon and Smash but I know in MK8 you will have people from 4 different countries easily.

 

[Extra Sauce]

You're forgetting a big one with Splatoon (maybe Kart too, I forget): No ability to turn off the music. Both have great soundtracks, but after 5 days of basically playing nothing but Splatoon, I want to listen to something else, dammit.

I'm already sick of hearing the Splatoon music in the eShop and I haven't even bought the game yet.

Considering I always listen to my own music while playing online shooters, this is actually the worst one on the list for me.

 

[pixelation]

I believe that Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. 4, and Splatoon are the three finest online games to grace a console this gen. You can disagree, but this topic isn't about which are the best online games from the past few years

So... only your chicharrones are allowed to be crunchy?, no one can say otherwise?, your opinion is the absolute truth and it can't be argued?, gimme a break OP.

Look at the thread title, you are stating that Nintendo has the 3 best online games so far this gen. And you open up the thread stating that it can't be argued, when your thread title is stating a pretty bold statement that many posters may not agree with then you're asking for rebuttals... only thing is, you can't... because you say so...

 

[Zen_Arcade]

So... only your chicharrones are allowed to be crunchy?, no one can say otherwise?, your opinion is the absolute truth and it can't be argued?, gimme a break OP.

Look at the thread title, you are stating that Nintendo has the 3 best online games so far this gen. And you open up the thread stating that it can't be argued, when your thread title is stating a pretty bold statement that many posters may not agree with then you're asking for rebuttals... only thing is, you can't... because you say so...

Because the focus of the thread isn't actually about the quality of the games, it's about how bad the online features are. Sure, he could have picked a better way to word it, but it's so obvious what the focus of the thread is supposed to be I don't see the point in bickering about the part about them being the best games. He needed to add the point about them being great games because it accentuates the dichotomy of how poor the online features are.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I think a non-voice chat casual playlist would probably be a great alternative to no voice chat at all and would be a great compromise, not just for this game but for all online games. Maybe make this the only playlist available if certain parental controls are enabled as well. I don't think omitting voice chat is a good solution at all, it just greatly limits the potential of a game, it's strategic depth, and makes the game die quicker, imo.

Yep. Though in a game like Splatoon I think the voice chat friends/party lobby should be the add on rather than the other way around. Since it's a game aimed at people not as interested in the hardcore online shooters.

What the fuck am I reading? On ps4 if you creat a party, all the games are muted. All of them. You don't even have to use the ingame option to mute the game. Stop spreading lies.

To be fair, it's not readily apparent that creating a party just for yourself is a way to mute all. It would be much simpler to just have a clear "disable voice chat" option clearly displayed in the system settings.

Plus, there are some game modes that don't allow parties--at least I ran into a few on 360 I haven't done much competitive online gaming on PS4. So going into a party doesn't work there and you often just had to individually mute each gamer in every lobby since a lot of games lack a mute all option.