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[ElectricBlanketFire]

Do you live in the US? I see ads all of the time when my TV is on and I barely watch TV.

I do. Maybe I'm just not watching the right shows.

 

[chickdigger802]

Isn't the only 3ds bundle this holiday that normal one with Mario 3d land?

Weak, Nintendo.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Those DS numbers, super impressive that it is still chugging along like that. Wii U launch numbers seem uninspiring, but not enough so to call it a flop? It'll be interesting to see how the system fares up until Christmas, is there any chance better stock replenishments could help the WiiU sell strong over the Holidays? Or is it likely to dull any sort of frenzy around the system, sending the message that it's just not that desirable a product?

Wii U launch sales are better than most. PS2 was 500k. Looks like revised Wii sales were between 470k and 500k.

 

[The Mana Legend]

Nintendo just fucking kill off the DS already. this is getting embarrassing. The 3Ds and DS sales have been way to close in the past few NPDs

Nintendo, kill off a system that is still making you a shit ton of profit.

Thanks.

 

[gazele]

I just worked out the low numbers and higher wii numbers.

Gonna be a lot of pissed off kids on Christmas day, all excited. WiiU, WiiU, WiiU, WiiU, ohhhh Wii. You got me that last year wahhhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhh

Wait so parents are going to buy their kids a Wii if they already have one? Even for uninformed consumers that seems pretty dumb haha

 

[Clear]

It was 89 bucks at Walmart. There were people lined through the store to get one on Black Friday.

That'd explain it lol.

 

[djSyndrome]

Do you live in the US? I see ads all of the time when my TV is on and I barely watch TV.

Don't watch TV either, but there has been an ad before each movie we've gone to see in theatres in the last 4-6 weeks.

 

[wrowa]

Where does that 50% drop for 3DS come from?

Last year Nintendo didn't provide figures for 3DS.

NPD numbers, I assume. The 3DS sold 795k last November according to NPD, considering that most of Novembers sales happen on and after Black Friday, that indicates a pretty heavy decline. November sales of about 350k to 400k don't seem unlikely.

So, yeah, while the 3DS is a beast in Japan, it still struggley very much in the US (and I think in Europe too). Not sure what Nintendo plans to do against it, everything they've done so far to "save" the 3DS' western sales seems a little half-hearted.

That's because the DS is actually at a price where parents are cool handing them off to their kids to possibly break.

Not to forget that Nintendo released their most important handheld game of the season on the DS and not on the 3DS. Nintendo is not giving parents a lot of reasons to pick up a 3DS right now...

 

[EatChildren]

I still haven't seen a single ad on television.

Can't speak for the US, but it's similar here in Australia. I can understand why the Wii exploded, but the Wii U is just kinda...there. There's no killer app and marketing has been poo. 400k sounds about right.

Jan-Feb-March will be telling. Isn't that when PS3 started to tank after launch?

Yeah this. There's always launch demand. Always. It's the new year drop-off that will show how receptive the market is to new hardware.

Given the poor software offerings, I expect a massive drop, unless the whole off screen TV thing suddenly catches on.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

From the other thread, all previous hardware launches (credit to lunchwithyuzo).

There's usually a difference between NPD numbers and shipped numbers though.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

It was 89 bucks at Walmart. There were people lined through the store to get one on Black Friday.

89 bucks? damn...

 

[Aquamarine]

At this point every Wii / DS unit sold is a very healthy profit for Nintendo, so I assume they can't be complaining too much about the high Wii / DS sales, even if it's bad for the 8th gen ecosystem.

 

[allan-bh]

Huge disappointing this 3DS sales.

Wii U did OK.

 

[Xanonano]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499413

We have said that we’ll have more Wii U units on store shelves in week one than we did for Wii in 2006. (...) Having said that, though, we’re guessing there could be shortages. It won’t be there every day. Shipments coming in each week could sell very quickly.

Yet they apparently sold less than the Wii did in its first week. So has it really sold out?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

So NSMB and 3DS XL barely did anything. It´s again proves that price matters the most.

Pokemon > NSMB2

 

[Smiles and Cries]

oh finally some numbers. Man I would hate to be one of the 300k kids that will be getting a Wii for the holiday instead of the Wii U.

That is a lot of Wiis and DSes

3DS price drop coming after this is good

 

[Meelow]

3DS sales speak for themselves. Could be worse, but still pretty bad.

Wii U... uh, unless supply was significantly lower than Wii's at launch, that doesn't look good.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo shipped 500k Wii U's (correct me if I'm wrong) and it sold 400k Wii U's, and it's $50-100 more expansive then the Wii, It's not that bad.

 

[Baconsammy]

The good news is you can easily buy a Wii U for Christmas now if you want one.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

400k seems okay but word is there were several supply constraints. I think the Wii sold around 700-800k in its first weekend.

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

So I guess the question is:

Pick up a Wii-U now, and get in on the inevitable ambassador program when they cut the price in a couple months.

Or.. wait for the price cut?

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499413

Yet they apparently sold less than the Wii did in its first week.

Wii U is at cheapest 50 dollars more expensive.

At this point every Wii / DS unit sold is a very healthy profit for Nintendo, so I assume they can't be complaining too much about the high Wii / DS sales, even if it's bad for the 8th gen ecosystem.

It's not bad for Wii U at all. Wii is a low cost alternative for people that won't drop 300 dollars for a new console.

Why is this concept so alien to you guys? It's been happening since the NES.

 

[Miles X]

Wii doing well bodes well for PS360 surely?

 

[mugurumakensei]

From the other thread, all previous hardware launches (credit to lunchwithyuzo).

Damn, I was off on XBox. No wonder sales were healthier in the XBox, GC, and PS2 era. The developers didn't have to wait nearly as long for an audience to exist.

 

[Kazerei]

DS still outselling 3DS, huh. Umm ... oh well.

 

[BY2K]

How many of those 300k Wii sold are from people expecting to buy the Wii U?

Same question for the 3DS and DS. This is embarrassing.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

400k seems okay but word is there were several supply constraints. I think the Wii sold around 700-800k in its first weekend.

No, not true. It should much less than that, but it was definitely much more supply constrained. It was almost much more inexpensive.

 

[Baconsammy]

Wii doing well bodes well for PS360 surely?

360 and PS3 had some insanely good bundles. I expect nothing less than a million from each.

 

[gcubed]

360 and PS3 had some insanely good bundles. I expect nothing less than a million from each.

has the PS3 ever hit that high?

 

[Bidermaier]

i wonder how many people bought the wii together with the new "accesory" the wiiu

 

[chertipros]

400k seems okay but word is there were several supply constraints. I think the Wii sold around 700-800k in its first weekend.

? NPD has the wii selling 476k in the entire month of November. how could it have done that much on a weekend?

 

[djSyndrome]

Wii U is at cheapest 50 dollars more expensive.

Adjusted for inflation they are nearly equal (although the $300 Wii U does not have a pack-in).

Why is this concept so alien to you guys? It's been happening since the NES.

Have you seen the Pick-Up thread? On GAF, everyone has a money tree in their backyard.

 

[wrowa]

400k seems okay but word is there were several supply constraints. I think the Wii sold around 700-800k in its first weekend.

According to NPD Wii sold short of 500k units in November 2006. This is actually 100k less than the number Nintendo stated.

 

[Spiegel]

? NPD has the wii selling 476k in the entire month of November. how could it have done that much on a weekend?

The same source saying WiiU sold 400k (Nintendo) gave a 600k number for Wii in the same timeframe

 

[BadWolf]

Wii doing surprisingly well, the WiiU's launch numbers don't look very hot in comparison (new console so expected the difference to be much bigger).

 

[Baconsammy]

has the PS3 ever hit that high?

I checked last Novembers NPDs. Microsoft did 1.7 million, Nintendo 700000 Wiis and Sony "declined to comment for this story".

So probably not.

 

[entremet]

360 and PS3 had some insanely good bundles. I expect nothing less than a million from each.

I don't. These consoles have a higher saturation point.

 

[Kouriozan]

Nice, with an official source, the "Nintendo is doomed" articles will begin to be posted now.
Not too bad and not incredible neither.

 

[ffdgh]

....there's a serious identity crisis with the 3ds/ds and wii/wiiu

Guessing they're going to beef up the marketing again.

 

[JonnyBigBoss]

From the other thread, all previous hardware launches (credit to lunchwithyuzo).

Thanks for this. I think this is what many of us have been looking for so we can do side-by-side comparisons.

My thoughts after looking at the numbers:

3DS - Much lower than expected.
DS - Exactly what I expected.
Wii - Much higher than I expected.
Wii U - Exactly what I expected.

 

[Xanonano]

Wii U is at cheapest 50 dollars more expensive.

Not after inflation though. But how could they have sold out if they had more on shelves than the Wii did and they still sold less?

 

[Elios83]

It's a good debut for the Wii U although 400k units at launch during Black Friday week are pretty much granted.
3DS did poorly, less than Wii and DS. I don't know if cutting the price again is the right thing. They should have tried to have a good holiday lineup in first place but they also have to deal with the fact that price drops or not the western maket for dedicated gaming handheld is dying, if they think that they can achieve the same success of previous platforms with the 3DS in the west they're delusional.

 

[KillerMan91]

3DS cost only $30 bucks more and has full BC with DS and still DS sells more. Really damn puzzling. Are people still confusing these two devices?

 

[liger05]

400,000 bad? I really dont think its bad at all.

I think nintendo still have a lot to do on the marketing side of things and can push a lot harder so 400,000 in week 1 really isnt a disaster.

 

[Saiyar]

Where does that 50% drop for 3DS come from?

Last year Nintendo didn't provide figures for 3DS.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453545

They gave percent increases for week 2 and 3 over week 1. Given the total sales for November the 3DS would have sold around 450k during last year.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Adjusted for inflation they are nearly equal (although the $300 Wii U does not have a pack-in).

Adjusted for inflation 249 then is 276 dollars now - and again that's without game. So take that as you will.

 

[AranhaHunter]

Good numbers for WiiU, about what I expected. Higher numbers than expected for Wii. Way higher numbers than expected for DS and lower than expected numbers for 3DS.

....and here's why they're price cutting. The dedicated handheld market in NA is under serious pressure.

And Sony is nonchalantly not giving a damn. Does anyone think Sony is not letting the vita just slowly die?

 

[Plinko]

If this doesn't show how poorly Nintendo phases out their previous consoles, I don't know what does.

 

[allan-bh]

According to NPD Wii sold short of 500k units in November 2006. This is actually 100k less than the number Nintendo stated.

Nintendo 600k number is for Americas, not just USA.

 

[goldenpp72]

400k Seems really bad considering they were supposedly shipping more than they did Wii.

 

[BadWolf]

3DS cost only $30 bucks more and has full BC with DS and still DS sells more. Really damn puzzling. Are people still confusing these two devices?

Wonder if ppl are thinking that the 3DS is just another version of the DS and only adds 3D.