SnakeSlashRO
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but not knowing the law IS a valid excuse... if you're a cop.
just ask the supreme court.

Yeah apparently it is.
but not knowing the law IS a valid excuse... if you're a cop.
just ask the supreme court.
Not siding with the cop, but, isnt it illegal to sleep in your car in random parking lots?
Isnt that reason alone to ask this guy to at least prove that he is staying in the hotel?
Annoying cop and I would be mad too but I can't understand most of the comments here either. Just getting rid of police would solve a lot of problems? You think racism will disappear then and violence against minorities will vanish? And I hope nobody saying this has to rely on police in the future. I don't have any specific solution to this problem but I guess demonizing every police officer (and there are certainly also good police officers) won't do the job. It's good that the media is so awarevif this problem but it shouldn't result in a war between police and citizens.
He was sleeping in his car? Did we watch the same video?Not siding with the cop, but, isnt it illegal to sleep in your car in random parking lots?
Isnt that reason alone to ask this guy to at least prove that he is staying in the hotel?
face it, even the detractors know that "better cops" is not a real solution and see 'no cops' as a more likely scenario.
Not siding with the cop, but, isnt it illegal to sleep in your car in random parking lots?
Isnt that reason alone to ask this guy to at least prove that he is staying in the hotel?
They could have gone straight to the desk and ask the manager whose on duty if he was a guest, or if the manager wanted him there. Once they finally talked to the manager, there was no indication the manager wanted him off so they should have moved on at that point.Not siding with the cop, but, isnt it illegal to sleep in your car in random parking lots?
Isnt that reason alone to ask this guy to at least prove that he is staying in the hotel?
And if they're sexually active that could be interpreted as an intent to distribute."We have an individual producing too much melanin in progress, please advise"
if an officer in my state asks for an id, i have to show it. even if i have done nothing or he has no suspicion.
idd, you are right. i don't have to show my id. but i have to say my full name, bithdate and my adress if they ask. if i don't or they think i may lie they will bring me to the station or bring me to my adress and verify the data that i gave.
"Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes.
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968) established that it is constitutionally permissible for police to temporarily detain a person based on reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed
Sounds like a motel lot so it would be private property. If the motel had called the police about someone sleeping in their lot (and i would get that because they are a business that sells places for people to sleep) then the cop probably would have said that and, more importantly, been completely justified afaik.
He was sleeping in his car? Did we watch the same video?
I doubt that poster thinks our current LEOs are bad so to him, any criticism of police means "let's get rid of cops."
im german, we have other laws.Also false.
not true. the current american policeforce is in no way free of any critcism.
but i seriously get agravated if people judge a whole group by their blackest sheep. (and yes, the racial pun is intendet so you see where my problem lies)
It says here that Germany is one of the only countries in the world that has obligation of identification, or you get fined 5000 Euros (welp, so dumb). It was introduced by Nazis towards Jews...im german, we have other laws.
nope. so it seems ive lit a fire. so let me ask this, do all of you who quoted me deny every request a cop makes every time you have come in contact with one? maybe not to extent of the dude in the video, but when a cop pulls you over and asks for an ID, do you tell him no? just for the sake of not violating your rights? I must have skipped the part in life where everyone else was taught to not talk to the police because fuck them. i understand that they are under the spotlight due to recent events, but whats also seemed to surface a lot more is people behind a camera acting like assholes in front of police. maybe its just me, but whenever i come in contact with police i act like a normal person. and my skin is brown, for whatever thats worth because judging by some of the posts here it seems like that is one of justifications for videos like this.
Are you seriously comparing being a cop to being black?
Edit: You live in Germany? What the fuck do you know about dealing with American cops?
It says here that Germany is one of the only countries in the world that has obligation of identification, or you get fined 5000 Euros (welp, so dumb). It was introduced by Nazis towards Jews...
But we're talking about USA here, so all your previous points regarding obligation were pointless.
not true. the current american policeforce is in no way free of any critcism.
but i seriously get agravated if people judge a whole group by their blackest sheep. (and yes, the racial pun is intendet so you see where my problem lies)
fuck i remember a thread on this board where a black cop was so destroyed because of all the shit that is/was going on that he had a mental breakdown. all he was trying to do was helping people. as a thanks he gets shat on by everyone without him doing anything wrong.
im german, we have other laws.
not true. the current american policeforce is in no way free of any critcism.
but i seriously get agravated if people judge a whole group by their blackest sheep. (and yes, the racial pun is intendet so you see where my problem lies)
i refuse to portray every one that is black as a gettothug. i do the same for cops. (or every other group, as i learned long enough that u can't judge a whole group by its most negative picture.)
else I for example would still be judged as a nazi (most negative german portrayal there is)
fuck i remember a thread on this board where a black cop was so destroyed because of all the shit that is/was going on that he had a mental breakdown. all he was trying to do was helping people. as a thanks he gets shat on by everyone without him doing anything wrong.
On any given day, in any police department in the nation, 15 percent of officers will do the right thing no matter what is happening. Fifteen percent of officers will abuse their authority at every opportunity. The remaining 70 percent could go either way depending on whom they are working with.
That's a theory from my friend K.L. Williams, who has trained thousands of officers around the country in use of force. Based on what I experienced as a black man serving in the St. Louis Police Department for five years, I agree with him. I worked with men and women who became cops for all the right reasons they really wanted to help make their communities better. And I worked with people like the president of my police academy class, who sent out an email after President Obama won the 2008 election that included the statement, "I can't believe I live in a country full of ni**er lovers!!!!!!!!" He patrolled the streets in St. Louis in a number of black communities with the authority to act under the color of law.
That remaining 70 percent of officers are highly susceptible to the culture in a given department. In the absence of any real effort to challenge department cultures, they become part of the problem. If their command ranks are racist or allow institutional racism to persist, or if a number of officers in their department are racist, they may end up doing terrible things.
It is not only white officers who abuse their authority. The effect of institutional racism is such that no matter what color the officer abusing the citizen is, in the vast majority of those cases of abuse that citizen will be black or brown. That is what is allowed.
well, probably more about the cops in germany as we have a thread every day about them on this board?
and no i am saying brushing a whole group with the same brush is wrong. be it ethnisity, religion, job or age. it doesn't matter. its just taking the easy route without aplying any critical thinking.
well, probably more about the cops in germany as we have a thread every day about them on this board?
and no i am saying brushing a whole group with the same brush is wrong. be it ethnisity, religion, job or age. it doesn't matter. its just taking the easy route without aplying any critical thinking.
And you're worried about people being unfair to the police?
This could have been the case here but its doubtful because the cop didnt say this.Way back when, when I didn't have a data plan on my phone, I would go by motels and use their free wi-fi to use web and get emails, etc. Police have a policy to check parked cars with drivers because those drivers might have drugs or prostitutes in their cars. That's what I was told. I know its part of some bullshit "broken windows" policy, mixed with profiling. And that the police can get away with just about anything as long as they have a plausible explanation, and know that people are afraid of their authority already.
Yea shit like that is everywhere.but I know I don't hit the McD's dollar menu and park among the 40 other cars in the parking lot, on the way home after a late shift anymore. sitting on private property as a black man is suspicious activity. Of course you can introduce the unknown and less likely factor of the police actually being called by motel employees, but again, that's extremely unlikely. If anyone wants to argue it bring it.
FixedI'm calling fake on this whole thing.
Nobody would willingly eat oatmeal with raisins.
but not knowing the law IS a valid excuse... if you're a cop.
just ask the supreme court.
Hate be this guy, but a Motel parking lot is private property. We don't know if the cops simply spotted this guy and rolled up or that motel phoned the cops thinking someone was loitering. A hotel parking lot is a pretty sweet place to crash.
It stands to reason that if you have a room at the motel you are unlikely to be hanging out in your car. The video also has no time stamp on it so it could be 7:00pm or 5:00am or anywhere in between. Yeah, all being well the guy is totally within his rights and the cops didn't handle this very well.
I totally understand why you wouldn't give the cops your room number lest they pass the info on to another unit and decide to bust into it later and kick the shit out of you on suspicion of weapons or something.
The cop here was a total D-bag. He could have ended the whole thing faster himself simply be stating his intentions instead of waiting for the guy in the car to state his. I don't get why the whole reasoning is so damn secretive. If it is loitering do you actually need an arrest or just to get the guy off the property? Seems like this cop was fishing for an arrest to make himself feel good.
Hate be this guy, but a Motel parking lot is private property. We don't know if the cops simply spotted this guy and rolled up or that motel phoned the cops thinking someone was loitering. A hotel parking lot is a pretty sweet place to crash.
It stands to reason that if you have a room at the motel you are unlikely to be hanging out in your car. The video also has no time stamp on it so it could be 7:00pm or 5:00am or anywhere in between. Yeah, all being well the guy is totally within his rights and the cops didn't handle this very well.
I totally understand why you wouldn't give the cops your room number lest they pass the info on to another unit and decide to bust into it later and kick the shit out of you on suspicion of weapons or something.
The cop here was a total D-bag. He could have ended the whole thing faster himself simply be stating his intentions instead of waiting for the guy in the car to state his. I don't get why the whole reasoning is so damn secretive. If it is loitering do you actually need an arrest or just to get the guy off the property? Seems like this cop was fishing for an arrest to make himself feel good.
It's not wrong in this case. American law enforcement is garbage. That's a fact supported by evidence - studies and statistics compiled across decades. The institution is corrupt and anybody who joins it is complicit in that corruption.
As someone who has spent time sharing motel rooms on the road, lots of times the only place you get privacy is the car. So it doesn't stand to reason at all.
How do you know he is sharing a motel room again?
well than, what would be the solution to the problems?
Lol this is bizarre and I'm sceptical about it, calling BS on this for now.
That was pretty funny. Can't believe the officer childishly just kept knocking on his window for what seemed like forever lol.
So this oatmeal thing sounds pretty good.
Is that a question for you to ask? Or for the policeman to ask, unsolicited?