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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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There is space, however that type of discussion is sometimes used the way Halo boosters were using imagined digital. USA retail sales of AAA console games cannot be hand waved away either with 'but digital' or 'but global'.
I wish I could remember the guy who predicted splat WW Ltd>Halo Ltd back in june-ish. It seemed crazy at the time.
No hand waving needed.
"But digital" is an appeal to numbers that are imagined.
"But global" is an appeal to global numbers released by the publisher.
If you see someone say that all numbers that have been released are terrible but it's a huge mega success because their mates in Media Markt Liechtenstein says it's selling gangbusters then that will probably be looked at skeptically.
Fair enough.
Primethius
Banned
I don't see it. I know it's an NPD thread but I'm not sure why we should limit ourselves to simply talking about US numbers when the conversation centered around how "big" or "monster" of an IP something is.
WW is important in that regard, and constricting talk to just the US without context from the ROTW seems incredibly limited.
Are you talk about me?
I predicted Splatoon > Halo 5 worldwide after UK first week which showed the super Halo declined, so by start of November...
But kudos for who maked this prediction back in June if true haha, this was pretty hard to predict.
slavesnyder
Member
Sure. No one wants this thread overfloating with utter nonsense. And as far as I know bullshits is normally hunted down without mercy, rightly so.
But as long as there is no general sales-cracker-barrel I am quite happy with the mix in here.
And I don't think we need one.
PS4 will definitely see an increase YOY for December and win the month. Not sure about XBOX but flat YOY or slight decrease seems the most plausible result. I'd expect the Wii U to see a slight increase YOY for December. 3DS would be lucky to pass half a million, there is nothing substantial to move hw this holiday.
Right now I'd predict something along the lines of:
PS4 - 1.45M
XB1 - 1.25M
3DS - 500K
WIU - 600K
Right now I'd predict something along the lines of:
PS4 - 1.45M
XB1 - 1.25M
3DS - 500K
WIU - 600K
ethomaz
Banned
It was him, no? lol
And yes Splatoon will be over Halo 5 this year... crazy indeed and shows how low the Halo franchise can go.
PS. I'm not talking about quality just sales... Splatoon sales are amazing for a Wii U but Halo 5 could be way bigger.
slavesnyder
Member
Haloose
It was him, no? lol
And yes Splatoon will be over Halo 5 this year... crazy indeed and shows how low the Halo franchise can go.
PS. I'm not talking about quality just sales... Splatoon is amazing for a Wii U but Halo 5 could be way bigger.
I don't wanna talk about quality in a sales thread, but for me Splatoon is way better than all Halo games i played.
To be honest, i still not played Halo 5, but with all others Halo, i can say Splatoon is way better.
This is probabily because i prefer TPS, indeed i almost always prefer TPS ( even if i love Far Cry, but is not a competitive online game, i like it for the SP )...
I just think Splatoon is faster and more funny to play.
Halo is boring after hours... just my opinion.
So, yes. Splatoon deserve to sell more. At least for me.
[PS4] 1,650,000
[XB1] 1,400,000
[3DS] 600,000
[WIU] 600,000
I will most likely change those predictions...
Who has claimed that Uncharted is monster series in USA? I'm pretty sure people always talks about worldwide numbers when claiming that Uncharted is big series. 21 million for three games and each sequel selling more, I think those are big numbers for game series that is exclusive.
Well it is rapidly fading from the xbox most played charts. It was like 8 or 9 last night behind Halo( halo got back to 6. I guess ots cause of forge and new stuff)
Are you talk about me?
I predicted Splatoon > Halo 5 worldwide after UK first week which showed the super Halo declined, so by start of November...
But kudos for who maked this prediction back in June if true haha, this was pretty hard to predict.
I remembered your prediction too, which also seemed a little crazy, but less so after UK.
How would you rank it compared to the prequels?
The prequels actually felt insulting. This one doesnt feel insulting. It feels more like a missed opportunity that constantly tries to distract you with shiny balls of nostalgia. It really doesnt earn the gravitas it tries to portray. A whole lot of telling not showing. But this is all OT so I don't want to get too much into it.
What prediction exatly?
Like i said, i predicted Splatoon over Halo 5 only after the first week in UK... before that, i predicted 8 million for Halo 5... now, i predict 5.5 million.
Splatoon, i others hands, my prediction is rised so much times... At first, i predicted 1.5 million after the E3 2014.
Before launch, by half of May 2015, i predicted 3 million.
...Then 4 million, 5 million, 6 million...
Now i predict 7 million. xD
But i think this will remain my top prediction, i really don't think Splatoon will sell more... if Splatoon sell even more than that... i swear...
Omnistalgic
Member
Sounds like it might win over the masses though. I find forum goers like us have refined taste and a little harder to impress because we consume and dissect a lot of media.
I by no means claim to be able to speak for the masses bit is seriously doubt it is able to capture the public at large in the same way the originals did. But not for lack of effort or imitation. I don't know it just felt off to me. Frankly it left me befuddled with a lot of the decisions made in regards to plot and character development.
But this is the last I'll dwell on it. If you want to see more in depth thoughts about it check out the posts I made in the off topic OT. That's the best I can do without resorting to spoilers which I refuse to do.
DeadOnions
Member
Splatoon is right next to The Last of Us for biggest new IP launch from the big 3. Really amazing job by Nintendo getting it this big.
I hope Rainbow Six does well for December but I don't think it'll crack the top 10.
Hardware wise I expect the XB1 and the PS4 to be slightly above their November numbers.
I hope Rainbow Six does well for December but I don't think it'll crack the top 10.
Hardware wise I expect the XB1 and the PS4 to be slightly above their November numbers.
ninjablade
Banned
the overhype for splatoon sales here is ridiculous, its only selling amazing in japan, it got a nice boost on black friday cause it was bundled with smash for 250$, bundles which you can still find btw.
ethomaz
Banned
It is still ahead Halo 5... that was the main point I guess... nobody is overhyping it sales.
In fact they are saying how low the Halo 5 sales are.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Errr what? It is nowhere near TLOU. TLOU has 10m copies, Splatoon will be lucky to hit 3m. TLOU is leagues ahead in terms of how big it is.
DeadOnions
Member
It's doing great and even if it was only doing well in Japan it would still be a tremendous success.
Many thought it would only do 500k and it's done double that in Japan alone.
DeadOnions
Member
My wording was probably off. I didn't mean in that it sold the same but rather it was a great new IP launch. It's never doing TLOU numbers.
Launch of new IP isn't necessarily limited to sales of a sole game. The OP would have to clarify what he meant. But there's merchandising (amiibos, etc), brand recognition, staying power, etc. A sequel on a non horrible system would be pretty telling. And Splatoon amiibo sales numbers.
It should be over 3m btw
For a better (and more global preference), here's the amount of players online right now, as of December 18th, 2015, 15:16 GMT
http://swbstats.com/
PC: 13,015 (24h peak: 15,064)
XBOXONE: 23,037 (24h peak: 41,041)
PS4: 63,569 (24h peak: 77,335)
Total: 99,621
That is really surprising considering the game has been on sale for $40 for the last 2 weeks.
RealityPales
Member
Jesus. Those third-party marketing deals sure do put some players on the board. God damn.
ninjablade
Banned
it actually 105k with out bundles, but yea i was way off with bundles.
its doing great but people are acting like its the next mario kart, when its only selling amazing in japan.
PanicFreak
Member
Halo 5 is going to sell more than Splatoon. It hasn't even been heavily bundled yet. I would expect Halo 5 be bundled with a $350 or a $299 console next year. With respect to MGS published games, the question I think is more interesting is, when is MGS going to publish its next hit? The last new AAA IP that did well was Ryse but MGS doesn't own the franchise and the sequel is dead in the water.
As I look over the 2016 releases, I don't see any new Microsoft Games Studios-published AAA IP that I think will light the sales charts on fire though I'm sure one of them will end up on the "Gen 8 Top 10 Underrated Games" lists in a couple of years. (Right next to Sunset Overdrive)
As I look over the 2016 releases, I don't see any new Microsoft Games Studios-published AAA IP that I think will light the sales charts on fire though I'm sure one of them will end up on the "Gen 8 Top 10 Underrated Games" lists in a couple of years. (Right next to Sunset Overdrive)
DriftingSpirit
Member
Horizon: Zero Dawn will be one Sony hopes to set the charts on fire. They are looking into making it their next big thing. It will be interesting to see how they handle promotion and what not.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
It's not in the same league in any aspect really. Splatoon is one of the better new IPs of the last few years, but we need to take it easy.
Horizon, The Division & Quantom Break all have a chance. Quality and release date will play a major role though.PanicFreak said:
Halo 5 WW sales are public?
Was the OP really disagreeing with that...? Is it because he said "right next to" TLOU instead of another word?
Still though, I don't want to pronounce premature judgment. Initially I figured it would struggle to hit 1mil WW. Then after early legs in Japan I thought 1 mil in Japan retail would only maybe happen. So if there's a sequel on a better system I'm not setting limits. Or a show, merchandising, etc
Why did this even start though? OP was just talking about big new IPs from the 3.
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PanicFreak
Member
I was speaking specifically about Microsoft Games Studios releases but I do agree that all three of those have a chance at becoming a hit. I'm not sure about Quantum Break because most people still think that there will be some sort of TV show that will go with the game. Microsoft messed up the messaging up at the very beginning and I think it will suffer because of that, unless it gets really great reviews (90+ MC).
MK8 finished last year with 1.7 million sales in US alone.
The majority of the legs in the US were due to the bundle which was launched with MK8. At launch you got MK8 with a free game and the game was heavily bundled for the entire year and during Christmas when the Wii U did 500K.
So lets say that the majority of bundles around Christmas are Splatoon/Smash and Splatoon is very close to 1 million with the November NPD. I can see it easily finishing the year between 1.2-1.5 million in the US.
ethomaz
Banned
I'm not sure if serious... did you think Halo 5 sold good outside US and UK?
It already reached 2.42 million as of Sep 2015.
I'm sure it will sell more 580k units in Oct + Nov + Dec.
The bets were about this year... I'm sure Halo 5 will do more long term.
About your other question... Ryse did well? I do think Gears will do great in terms of sales... less than 3 first games but more than the last one.
CosmicQueso
Member
Because, most of the time, going from US to global takes us from US (knowing a little) to global (I'm just making up numbers).
If we have real, actual numbers to go with, then sure, adding global context to the US numbers makes sense. But if it's just "well, Sony is stronger in Europe, so game X sold better there" that's not helpful and should be discouraged.
Splatoon will be at > 4 million by end of year. I call it now. Remember this comment.
Hm how would we know though? Press release...?
And what's your projected breakdown?
As in
NPD:
EUROPE:
JAPAN:
ROTW:
I think it's a bit high imo since japan is the only aeea confirmed to be over 1 mil right? Unleas ROTW is hot
ninjablade
Banned
splatoon reached 2.42 million as of Sep 2015. mario kart 8 same time frame, 3.5 million september 2014, and now way platoon will sell as good as mario kart 8 during December.
Chobel
Member
Horizon and The Division.
Primethius
Banned
But that's not really what the context around the discussion was about. The discussion centered around how big we think UC4 would be with some estimations about WW numbers, while some only focused on US numbers. All numbers were made up.
A statement that says that WW plays a bigger role for Sony then others is completely in line with that, especially if your trying to determine how big an IP is.
Ignoring WW in this instance is limiting the discussion for no meaningful purpose other then to follow the thread title. Which we don't exactly do all the time anyways.
PanicFreak
Member
See edit.
OK, I can see that happening.
I thought that Ryse did pretty well. I think it sold more than 1 million copies on Xbox One. I could be wrong though. Gears will do well but that's not a new IP but I was referring to new IP only.